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    Post  Project Canada Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:18 am



    White House accuses Russia of 'killing civilians' in E. Ghouta, Syria in '20 daily' bombing runs

    The US White House has accused Russia of "killing innocent civilians" in eastern Ghouta, Syria. It accuses Moscow, which has been striving for a ceasefire and exit corridors for civilians, of "ignoring" a UN resolution.

    It went on to accuse Moscow of ignoring the conditions of the 30-day humanitarian pause in Syria introduced by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), claiming it had violated the cessation of hostilities “to kill innocent civilians under the false auspices of counterterrorism operations,” in a strongly-worded statement.

    Assad called out hypocrisy by the West, noting that it starts crying foul only when Syrian forces are advancing against the terrorists.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/420445-us-russia-ghouta-civilians/

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    Post  par far Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:18 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    par far wrote:“SYRIAN ARMY CAPTURES KEY TOWN IN EAST GHOUTA, SENDS LARGE REINFORCEMENTS TO DEVELOP ATTACK (PHOTOS).”

    https://southfront.org/syrian-army-captures-key-town-in-east-ghouta-sends-large-reinforcements-to-develop-attack-photos/

    Keep up mate, that map was already posted, in 217 thumbsup


    My apologies, I looked over and thought it was a different map, it is changing so fast.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:47 pm

    UN HRC rejected Russian amendments to the resolution on East Guta

    MOSCOW, March 5 (Itar-Tass) - RIA Novosti. The Human Rights Council (HRO) of the United Nations approved by a majority of votes the draft resolution on East Guta proposed by Great Britain, follows from the voting results. At the same time, the council rejected Russian amendments to the document.
    29 members of the council voted in favor of the resolution, representatives of four countries spoke against, 14 abstained. The meeting was broadcast on the UN website.

    In Moscow, the debate and voting on the document was called "divorced from the situation on the ground."

    Russian offers

    Kislyak called the US to account for failure to implement the UN resolution on Syria
    Moscow offered to condemn all acts of terrorism in Syria, including in East Gut, and not support militants in the country. The Russian delegation regarded the refusal to approve this amendment as a public statement by the states on the support of terrorists.
    In addition, Moscow called for the inclusion in the document of a paragraph on the crimes of militants against civilians in East Gut, which is based on the UN Security Council resolution 2401. It was also proposed to include in the text a call to ensure the safe exit from the suburbs of all civilians through humanitarian corridors.

    British project

    The draft resolution, circulated by Great Britain, condemns the massive violation of human rights in Syria.
    London, in particular, suggested condemning the denial of humanitarian access, attacks on hospitals and civilian infrastructure, air strikes against civilians, and "alleged use of chemical weapons in East Gut".

    At the same time, the draft resolution does not mention any armed groups operating on the territory of East Gut, including the Djebhat An-Nusry *.


    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/syria/20180305/1515749306.html



    What you get is what you see: HRC members list and among them. And now question who was remaining 10 of supporters? togo? I guess cuntries easiest to be bullied.



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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:54 pm

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    Post  par far Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:12 pm

    According to this the 5th Assault Corps and Liwa al-Quds have also been sent to Eastern Ghotua to help with the offensive.


    https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-march-5-2018-tiger-forces-liberate-large-area-from-militants-in-east-ghouta/
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:36 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 10 DXhrAECWkAEt0nU


    The terrorist are pretty much doomed .  Is now suicide mode..
    With elevated high towers , if the Syrian army build them.. you can literary fire a Kornet missile
    from any part of Syria front line and it can score a direct hit on any part of terrorist positions.

    For comparisons the Kornet -D have 5km range and the Kornet-EM have 10 km in heat..
    Or you can use Grenade launchers ,rains of them... and it will bomb any part they positioned.
    The only thing the terrorist have in their favor is the civilian hostages.. Hopefully Russia and Syria
    will have lots of international Journalist filming everything with lots of cameras. so people see
    that NATO backed rebels have hostage at gun point thousands of civilians in the city.

    Because there are too many civilians inside , Syrian army needs to use light weapons and grenade launchers ,
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:50 am

    So the goals of the UN is to prevent the human rights violations... IN A CIVIL WAR.

    Too much Kool Aide... and where the fuck were these weasels when Mosul and Raka were getting flattened?
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:18 pm

    GarryB wrote:So the goals of the UN is to prevent the human rights violations... IN A CIVIL WAR.

    Too much Kool Aide... and where the fuck were these weasels when Mosul and Raka were getting flattened?

    UN is nothing but a mouthpiece of the American regime. Best to just ignore them.


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:23 pm

    Wonder if they are taking their new US MRAPs etc?


    Paul Antonopoulos
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    36m36 minutes ago

    It will be approxmiately 1700 #YPG being redeployed from Deir Ezzor province in eastern #Syria where they were battling #ISIS to #Afrin where they will take on Turkish-led invaders.



    Very related announcement. Basically the US proxy forces have deserted them so they won't fight. Mind you it does mean that they can't stop their local 3000+ ISIS striking west to distract the SAA from Ghouta. Should that happen!



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    Pentagon: Operations against ISIS in eastern Syria 'paused' https://trib.al/Nyc6Pm2




    Might be too late!


    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    #Pt. Geolocation shows #OliveBranch forces also took over Khirbet Sharanli this morning, now 10 km from #Afrin-city. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.612720&lon=36.932822&z=18&m=b …



    But then


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    Blazing Fury Retweeted Afarin Mamosta

    This is exactly what Turkey and the Americans want. Kurds focusing on defending Afrin gives breathing space for ISIS, justifying longer, illegal presence of US forces in Syrian soil. Well played, NATO.


    https://twitter.com/AfarinMamosta__/status/970779564199829506


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:27 pm

    Different cauldron forming, not what expected.

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    In an important development in East #Ghouta the Syrian military is 1.2 KM away from cutting of the suburb of #Harasta from the rest of #Ghouta


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    #Syria #Damascus #EasternGhouta #EastGhouta #Eastern_Ghouta #East_Ghouta
    Reports Say the separation of Douma from Harasta by a heavy fire ring & cutting the militants supply lines. A very important & strategic turning point achievement
    Ghouta is under fire. Zero hour is ringing



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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:27 pm

    GarryB wrote:So the goals of the UN is to prevent the human rights violations... IN A CIVIL WAR.

    Too much Kool Aide... and where the fuck were these weasels when Mosul and Raka were getting flattened?

    There was no human rights violations during US bombardment!

    a) there was only minor collateral damage
    b) or subhumans
    c) last but not least - bombs were bringing DEMOCRACY

    you see how easy it is?
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:30 pm

    Also, deals being made

    Ivan Sidorenko Retweeted
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    Jaysh Al-Islam has completed withdrawal from #Misraba. All regular fighters have retreated towards #Douma. Young men, natives of the town, have taken up arms to maintain security for civs who stayed behind and attempt to fend off any regime incursion should deal be reneged upon.



    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    #AfrinOp: following fierce clashes #OliveBranch forces took control of Sharan. Village is a key crossroads located 11.5 km NE. of #Afrin-city.



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:34 pm


    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    38m38 minutes ago

    #AfrinOp: new map showing #Olivebranch forces made large gains NE. of #Afrin-city, directly threatening the main road (highway) with Nubul-Zahraa & #Aleppo.



    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 10 DXoHYmMXkAAIr7X
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:46 pm

    The link has a video of the SDF getting ready to go to Afrin. Note that there is not a single MRAP or similar US specific vehicle in the convoy. There must be dozens of them parked up in carparks all over eastern Syria.

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 10 DXoIWZ2W0AA5ttP


    How on earth they are going to get there in time to make a difference given the progress being made by the Turks seizing roads is beyond me. Then they will have to face the TuAF. I wonder whether, having gone north, they will stay up there returning to their families. If so this gives the US an interesting problem, how to stop the SAA from going for the remaining ISIS in SE Syria. There could be some very angry Kurds around.

    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/971091964769853441



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    59m59 minutes ago

    Good bye Deir Ezzor, good luck #US.
    The Syrian Democratic Forces have better things to do now than to fight for you. They have to help the #YPG and #YPJ allies in #Afrin. This is what allies do...


    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 10 DXoIV4CW0AIQJC1



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    its almost impossible to save Afrin at this point, the second phase of the Turkish attack is brilliant in military terms, very well organized


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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:57 pm

    It still gets me that the large isis pocket hasn't been taken out yet can't be much Isis in it and full of small villages. Would help free up man power.

    Other areas such as al tanf should be taken out I still don't trust the US they are likely to have a plan for an attack to help divert forces in ghouta to this front.

    Also why the hell hasn't al dumayr area had a settlement agreement yet? Should have been done long ago. These 3 areas could yield much needed man power for other fronts like Latakia, homs and hama.

    I would imagine once ghouta is finished Homs will be next and that will likely be quick mostly through agreements and transfer to idilb. Consolidating the scum. Then you will likely see Israel stirring trouble in the south. I would imagine once the push for idilb starts one of key areas will be to liberate the rest of Latakia and take jisr and then start creeping up the Turkish border. While fronts from northern hama southern and western aleppo kick off as well. But hopefully the civilians start uprising against the scum making it swift.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:17 pm

    Jihadi maggots trying to retake Rayhan (let 'em come..), while the SAA takes Muhammadiyah...  Small villages that get their few days of fame and then descend back into utter obscurity....

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    Post  Airman Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:56 am

    #AfrinOp: battle for #Jindires started, 2nd largest town in #Afrin region. #OliveBranch forces captured the fortified hill & are now engaged in heavy urban warfare.
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/971291720620150789
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 am

    Erdogan actions in Syria is a very Huge RISK for Turkey own nation territorial integrity .
    He is basically in a vietnam like war ,with Kurds in Syria ,but this time the kurds receive support
    from Americans ,EU and Russia with weapons.. So no idea who advised Erdogan ,that he could just
    enter in Syria and pick a piece of land and later hold it without public support at home ,and that Kurds or
    Syria will not fight back and could keep the fight for decades against them. .

    ERdogan forgot the most basic Rule in wars.. that you never go to war without a strong support of your
    people and with a very low popularity rating.. Erdogan only holds power in Turkey arresting thousands
    and thousands of Turkey citizens every year.. This is not a democracy but a Tyranny..

    So what could go wrong for Erdogan?
    Even if Turkey Capture AFrin in Full ..  (Remember ISIS and Alqaeda and FSA nearly capture 80% of Syria by end 2015 but later bang Russia reversed it). That the battles will not end in afrin .. Because Kurds will have free passage in Syrian Army controlled territory and Kurds fighting in AFrin ,have support from the European Union ,and AMericans too.. and even Syrian army is giving them free passage and logistics too.. and if Turkey goes against Syrian army ,it will need to remove Russia,IRAN ,Hezbola and IRAQ coalition from Syria that are helping Assad.

    This means that Turkey invaders

    1)will never see a cease of fire in Syrian lands.. until they capture 100% of Syrian territory.
    2)that will never disarm the Kurds ,they will always gets modern weapons NATO ,Chinese or Russians. and logistics too
    of Turkey positions.
    3)That Turkey will be unable to stop kurds in afrin ,until they stop syrian army helping them in Afrin at least..
    and that Erdogan will not be able to defeat Syrian Army until defeats Russia and IRAN helping them.
    4)That Turkey will never be able to have air superiority in Syria ,with Russia helping Syrian army with air defenses.
    5)That if Erdogan attack Syrian army ,will get long range artillery hitting their positions everywhere.
    6)That if Erdogan choose to start a war against Syria ,that Russia.IRAN will go on the side of Syria.
    7)that Erdogan will lose a lot of soldiers trying to hold territory in Syria... and sink its economy.

    8)That Erdogan will lose a lot of political support and popularity ,the more economy sinks and soldiers die.
    9) And if any other civil war happens in Turkey , like the one that not long ago happened ,and the military rebel
    against him.. Then you will see all this gains of Erdogan  reversed in a matter of hours or few days because Loyal
    Troops to the ERdogan regime will have to return to Turkey to retake control of their nation in a civil war.
    10)and if Erdogan declare war against Russia is game over for Turkey.. All Russian planes will flatern Turkey positions in Syria and do the same they did to ISIS. and Turkey warship will be sink in the black sea and Ankara hit by missiles.
    and already NATO said ,will not come to aid of Turkey if they start an offensive war with Russia ,will be their own.

    So Erdogan hostile policies against Syria regardless of the reasons he give ,,is risking nothing less than the whole existence of the Turkey state. He Risk the facing of a much bigger civil war , and with European Union backing the opposition ,and possibly Americans too if they see the posibility of their backed kurds taking power. Turkey future will be a divided ,disbanded nation. and risk not only Losing Syrian illegally captured territory but also Turkey own territory too. This is because Nations cannot exist without a working economy and without majority of society support , that erdogan don't have. The more Turkey economy sinks. and soldiers he lose. the more Popularity erdogan will sink and the more bigger the possibilities of a major civil war..

    Soviet Union collapsed when its economy collapsed..and lost like 30% of former Russia territory and Erdogan's Turkey will not be an exception to this Rule. So i don't see how Erdogan will survive in power for long..because his interference in the Syrian conflict and his support for Alqaeda  and many pro Europe Turkey citizens will reject him. I do see
    Turkey being split in 3 to 4 parts... This policy of Erdogan is nonsense.. total crazyness.. ERdogan will never be able
    to Disarm Kurds without defeating Syrian army first and all the nations that backup Syria, ie, Russia,IRAN.

    This is why Russia does not invade Ukraine , because they know it will be an endless war. that will never end ,with NATO providing weapons to Ukraine ,.They only took Crimea , because is easy to control.. is almost an island surrounded by water and no easy way for NATO to smuggle anti Russian rebels there.. and because people in Crimea fully supported Russia. In Syria in the other hand, ERdogan will be in an endless war ,because neither Kurds or Syria will allow Turkey to remain in Syria..and Russia and IRAN will be fully backing Syria to hold its place. and Syria will be aiding Kurds.. so nice game Erdogan have chosen to take.. is a guarantee failure in Syria what Erdogan face.

    So if ERdogan start a war against Russia he will end being attacked in all sides..from armenia. from Syria ,from the black sea and from EU too from greece too. and will get Russia sanctions back.. destroying Turkey tourism. Erdogan is doomed.. He have no chance to win in syria ever.. he will have endless kurds and Syrians and IRAquis and Russians
    pinning down Turkey army in Syria. and lots of weapons supplies with modern weapons ,superior than the ones Turkey have destroying their planes and tanks.

    So i give ERdogan another 1-3 years max in power ,before he is sacked..and another civil war there..but a big one
    this time better organized and backed in full by the European Union. and Turkey losing huge territory in ALL Borders.. because Erdogan represent the biggest threat to Europe for being closely connected with Terrorism and smuggling radical muslims into Europe. Nobody in Europe likes Erdogan.. Austria is on record saying if Turkey enters in EU ,Austria will leave the EU the same day. none in eastern Europe likes Erdogan , Neither ITALY or Spain, Britain leadership is on record saying that Turkey entry into the EU under ERdogan will not get it earlier than year 3,000 . Laughing


    So Turks will face a really ugly future ,similar to Ukraine today ,or even worse. with civil wars and country partitioned consequences of Erdogans abuse of power and illegal war  in Syria ,and annoying all its neighbors ,including Europe .The only chance Turkey have to avoid the abyss ,is to fully restore relations for real with all its neighbors ,including Syria Government and Russia and IRAN. If Erdogan dont do it..any opposition party who get in power will do it... and will fully reverse all ERdogan gains in Syria.. Erdogan will be remembered like the dumbest Sultan ,and the man who finished Turkey state ,if he dont wake up and think in LONG TERM future of its nation.

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    Post  calm Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:15 pm

    US NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE CHIEF CONFIRMS WASHINGTON MULLS MILITARY ACTION AGAINST SYRIAN GOVERNMENT

    https://southfront.org/us-national-intelligence-chief-confirms-washington-mulls-military-action-syrian-government/
    they are desperate
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    Post  calm Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:02 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:52 pm

    Meanwhile in Afrin. New mapper

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:11 pm

    calm wrote:US NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE CHIEF CONFIRMS WASHINGTON MULLS MILITARY ACTION AGAINST SYRIAN GOVERNMENT
    they are desperate

    I've read it eariler. Mattis and Trums are against. They I guee are more sober then we thought, McMaster very much for. I dotn thing they do anything officially.
    With harsher recent course of Russian policy this might not end up well.




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    UN Against Humanitarian Assistance to East Gutu Dropped from Aircraft

    Society 7 March, 21:01 UTC + 3
    Farhan Khak, deputy official representative of the world organization secretary general, noted that this is "not a very effective way"
    UN, 7 March. / TASS /. The UN leadership does not consider the dumping of humanitarian cargo from an airplane an effective way of providing assistance. This method should not be used in the blocked suburb of Damascus, East Huta, the deputy spokesperson for the Secretary-General of the World Organization, Farhan Khak, said on Wednesday.



    What is happening in the Syrian East Guta
    He acknowledged that the UN humanitarian agencies had resorted to dumping aid "as a last resort," for example, during the operation in Deir ez Zor, which was surrounded by terrorists. "It all depends on the terrain, it's not a very effective way." In densely built up residential areas, relief is not recommended, "Hak explained.

    According to him, while providing assistance, the UN seeks to "make sure that it goes to people who need it." Hak noted that on Monday the world organization together with partners tried to help the residents of the city of the Duma in the area of ​​Eastern Guta, but the humanitarian operation was interrupted due to resumed hostilities. "We need to try to return [to East Gutu], and we are going to do it tomorrow, on Thursday, and complete the distribution of aid in the Duma," he said.

    According to UN estimates, about 400 thousand people live in East Gut. The militants hiding in this enclave are bombarding Damascus, to which the pro-government forces are responsible. At the initiative of Russia, a daily five-hour pause in hostilities was introduced in this region, and a humanitarian corridor for the evacuation of civilians was created.


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    Post  par far Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:41 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Erdogan actions in Syria is a very Huge RISK for Turkey own nation territorial integrity .
    He is basically in a vietnam like war ,with Kurds in Syria ,but this time the kurds receive support
    from Americans ,EU and Russia with weapons.. So no idea who advised Erdogan ,that he could just
    enter in Syria and pick a piece of land and later hold it without public support at home ,and that Kurds or
    Syria will not fight back and could keep the fight for decades against them. .

    ERdogan forgot the most basic Rule in wars.. that you never go to war without a strong support of your
    people and with a very low popularity rating.. Erdogan only holds power in Turkey arresting thousands
    and thousands of Turkey citizens every year.. This is not a democracy but a Tyranny..

    So what could go wrong for Erdogan?
    Even if Turkey Capture AFrin in Full ..  (Remember ISIS and Alqaeda and FSA nearly capture 80% of Syria by end 2015 but later bang Russia reversed it). That the battles will not end in afrin .. Because Kurds will have free passage in Syrian Army controlled territory and Kurds fighting in AFrin ,have support from the European Union ,and AMericans too.. and even Syrian army is giving them free passage and logistics too.. and if Turkey goes against Syrian army ,it will need to remove Russia,IRAN ,Hezbola and IRAQ coalition from Syria that are helping Assad.

    This means that Turkey invaders

    1)will never see a cease of fire in Syrian lands.. until they capture 100% of Syrian territory.
    2)that will never disarm the Kurds ,they will always gets modern weapons NATO ,Chinese or Russians. and logistics too
    of Turkey positions.
    3)That Turkey will be unable to stop kurds in afrin ,until they stop syrian army helping them in Afrin at least..
    and that Erdogan will not be able to defeat Syrian Army until defeats Russia and IRAN helping them.
    4)That Turkey will never be able to have air superiority in Syria ,with Russia helping Syrian army with air defenses.
    5)That if Erdogan attack Syrian army ,will get long range artillery hitting their positions everywhere.
    6)That if Erdogan choose to start a war against Syria ,that Russia.IRAN will go on the side of Syria.
    7)that Erdogan will lose a lot of soldiers trying to hold territory in Syria... and sink its economy.

    8)That Erdogan will lose a lot of political support and popularity ,the more economy sinks and soldiers die.
    9) And if any other civil war happens in Turkey , like the one that not long ago happened ,and the military rebel
    against him.. Then you will see all this gains of Erdogan  reversed in a matter of hours or few days because Loyal
    Troops to the ERdogan regime will have to return to Turkey to retake control of their nation in a civil war.
    10)and if Erdogan declare war against Russia is game over for Turkey.. All Russian planes will flatern Turkey positions in Syria and do the same they did to ISIS. and Turkey warship will be sink in the black sea and Ankara hit by missiles.
    and already NATO said ,will not come to aid of Turkey if they start an offensive war with Russia ,will be their own.

    So Erdogan hostile policies against Syria regardless of the reasons he give ,,is risking nothing less than the whole existence of the Turkey state. He Risk the facing of a much bigger civil war , and with European Union backing the opposition ,and possibly Americans too if they see the posibility of their backed kurds taking power. Turkey future will be a divided ,disbanded nation. and risk not only Losing Syrian illegally captured territory but also Turkey own territory too. This is because Nations cannot exist without a working economy and without majority of society support , that erdogan don't have. The more Turkey economy sinks. and soldiers he lose. the more Popularity erdogan will sink and the more bigger the possibilities of a major civil war..

    Soviet Union collapsed when its economy collapsed..and lost like 30% of former Russia territory and Erdogan's Turkey will not be an exception to this Rule. So i don't see how Erdogan will survive in power for long..because his interference in the Syrian conflict and his support for Alqaeda  and many pro Europe Turkey citizens will reject him. I do see
    Turkey being split in 3 to 4 parts... This policy of Erdogan is nonsense.. total crazyness.. ERdogan will never be able
    to Disarm Kurds without defeating Syrian army first and all the nations that backup Syria, ie, Russia,IRAN.

    This is why Russia does not invade Ukraine , because they know it will be an endless war. that will never end ,with NATO providing weapons to Ukraine ,.They only took Crimea , because is easy to control.. is almost an island surrounded by water and no easy way for NATO to smuggle anti Russian rebels there..  and because people in Crimea  fully supported Russia.  In Syria in the other hand, ERdogan will be in an endless war ,because neither Kurds or Syria will allow Turkey to remain in Syria..and Russia and IRAN will be fully backing Syria to hold its place. and Syria will be aiding Kurds.. so nice game Erdogan have chosen to take.. is a guarantee failure in Syria what Erdogan face.

    So if ERdogan start a war against Russia he will end being attacked in all sides..from armenia. from Syria ,from the black sea and from EU too from greece too. and will get Russia sanctions back.. destroying Turkey tourism. Erdogan is doomed.. He have no chance to win in syria ever.. he will have endless kurds and Syrians and IRAquis and Russians
    pinning down Turkey army in Syria. and lots of weapons supplies with modern weapons ,superior than the ones Turkey have destroying their planes and tanks.

    So i give ERdogan another 1-3 years max in power ,before he is sacked..and another civil war there..but a big one
    this time better organized and backed in full by the European Union. and Turkey losing huge territory in ALL Borders.. because Erdogan represent the biggest threat to Europe for being closely connected with Terrorism and smuggling radical muslims into Europe. Nobody in Europe likes Erdogan.. Austria is on record saying if Turkey enters in EU ,Austria will leave the EU the same day. none in eastern Europe likes Erdogan , Neither ITALY or Spain, Britain leadership is on record saying that Turkey entry into the EU under ERdogan will not get it earlier than year 3,000 . Laughing


    So Turks will face a really ugly future ,similar to Ukraine today ,or even worse. with civil wars and country partitioned consequences of Erdogans abuse of power and illegal war  in Syria ,and annoying all its neighbors ,including Europe .The only chance Turkey have to avoid the abyss ,is to fully restore relations for real with all its neighbors ,including Syria Government and Russia and IRAN. If Erdogan dont do it..any opposition party who get in power will do it... and will fully reverse all ERdogan gains in Syria.. Erdogan will be remembered like the dumbest Sultan ,and the man who finished Turkey state ,if he dont wake up and think in LONG TERM future of its nation.


    Most of what you said is crap, Erdogan knows that he cannot stay in Syria for long because Russia(Russia could have stopped Turkey from coming into Syria by doing a lot of things but Russia did not because Turkey is taking care of the Kurdish problem) and Iran won't allow it. Turkey is in Syria to take care of the Kurdish problem(this is the biggest deal for Turkey, take care of the Kurds). Once the Kurdish problem is dealt with, Turkey will slowly withdraw(Turkey knows that occupation of a foreign country is very costly, especially one that is backed by a power like Russia.)

    Erdogan knows that he cannot stay in Syria for long, that is why, Turkey is quickly crushing the Kurds in the Afrin region(the second phase of the Turkish offensive has been very effective.)

    As for joining the EU, why the fuck would Turkey or anyone want to join the EU. EU is bankrupt and being raped by the Zionists pigs that made it.











    "In Photos: White Helmets Media Studio Producing “Evidence of Assad Regime War Crimes."

    This is how "White Helmets" assholes prepare for "chemical attacks" go SAA and Allies go, kill these asshole terrorists.

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    SAA boys on a roll and bound for Harasta military base... Very Happy Poor little Jihadi maggots fail in their efforts to return to Muhammadiyah.... Very Happy

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:38 pm

    par far wrote:"In Photos: White Helmets Media Studio Producing “Evidence of Assad Regime War Crimes."

    This is how "White Helmets" assholes prepare for "chemical attacks" go SAA and Allies go, kill these asshole terrorists.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/in-photos-white-helmets-media-studio-producing-evidence-of-assad-regime-war-crimes/5631130

    Its a devastating indictment of the corrupt nature of the Western corporate-controlled elite-owned MSM echo chamber that none of the allegedly "investigative journalists" care about staged AQ atrocity porn, yet if this was Hamas doing this in Gaza it would splashed all over the front page of every Murican Zio-media asset.  Of course, when the Ziostanis feel the need to "cut the grass", the Gazan's have no need of fake atrocities as they have an abundance of real war crime to choose from...  but thats not useful to the MSM agenda or consistent with their favoured narratives...

    It is shit like this that is irreversibly corroding peoples faith in the MSM.  The oligarch majority-Jewish owners and controllers of our MSM don't seem to understand that when ones prostitute is dead, its not effective to smear on some makeup and spray on some perfume...  the tricks will always know the difference...

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