Isos wrote:
Guiding a missile and communicating is not the same ...
The crew can say to the ground there is a missile here but if the ground radar can't see it, it can't engage the missile.
I have never seen a report saying a-50 can guide s-400 semi active radar and provide the final illumination to destroy the target. Maybe you have some info about that that I haven't seen ?
Please stop arguing if you have no idea of what you are discussing at all..
What difference makes.. if you take an advance ground radar ,and modify it ,to mount it on TOP on an airplane?
Don't you see the huge radar in this picture ? https://cdnfr1.img.sputniknews.com/images/103136/49/1031364988.jpg
Both will detect equally missiles.. or anything..that emit radio signals..
The BIG Advantage the A-50 have over ground radars ,is that is looking downwards.. (instead of upwards like ground radars ) and if the plane fly high.. it can look ,detect and track and provide interception path of any plane or missile flying low ,behind mountains and hugging terrain. it doesn't need to "illuminate the target.." are you crazy?
you only do that with lazer.. all that it needs to do is a radio communication with the missile fired ,to tell the missile
where the plane or the cruise missiles is located. even behind a large mountain.. A-50 is a flying Radar.
So it can be very useful ,very helpful to an S-400 system or Any air defense..because will see more closer to the ground ,while traddional Ground radars look upwards.. and depend on line of sight..but anything behind a hill or mountain will not be seen.. So an S-400 system is far from enough.. You need AWACS , you Need a strong Airforce too.. and short range defenses to protect the S-400s.. otherwise.. if you only use S-400s long range missiles ,for everything ,then it will an incredible waste of money ,to use it to targets at 30km.. not using it for long range targets.
For Cruise missiles is better to use Short Range air defense with very small ,quick turn +fast missiles.
TORS ,Pantsirs and Buks ,the all terrain version are the most ideal anti air defense against cruise missiles.. because they can be deployed close to the borders ..and target missiles at visual distance at the moment they will enter..from safe distance.
But the ultimate weapons as i said is Counter Electronic warfare..you simply turn off the missile and it will fall in sand.
This is assuming Russia was not lying ,when it was advertising non stop ,in SPutnik ,what their electronic warfare can do.. Laser weapons also can do the job too ,but weather can be problematic its operations. also special forces using verba manpads can do it too... cheap and fast and stealthy. without revealing enemies at the borders of your location.
A-50 can guide planes ,missiles and drones to enemy positions ,and provide interception solution ,but also can even spot enemy positions using radio hardware. Unfortunately Russia don't have many of those planes i think.. but in
any case.. Syria battle field is the worse possible place in the world ,for Russia to fight with Syria surrounded by Terrorist sponsor nations ,including Turkey ,Jordan and Israel...and with NATO already flying freely their planes..
So such huge plane could be attacked by "ISIS drones" as Americans claims.. So is very risky...
here is another "flying" radar..
http://i.cdn.turner.com/ireport/sm/prod/2013/01/22/EM01363969/2361696/EM20130122130220DSC0010jpg-2361696_p9.jpg
Used to track low flying planes or anything flying low.. It have a giant parabolic antenna looking downwards..
to spy on low flying planes.. is also used to catch drug traffiqers.. on mono planes that fly low..
But Aerostats is not ideal for Syria , too many terrorist with such huge target..
But A-50- Russia can use them ,either to provide targeting solution or provide real time positioning of the incoming missile or plane..so that Ground Air defenses can aim in that direction.. or counter electronic warfare shut it down.
This also will not Allow Israel airforce to penetrate Syria airspace flying low.. behind Mountains and valleys to
fly under the radar belly of Syrian air defenses.
IF all you do for Air defense is just use an S-400 ,then you are doing something really wrong.. S-400s are supposed to be used in a network of air defenses.. with short and long defenses , with Air Force combat planes to push away any enemy invader.. and A-50 AWACS ,this is to extend the zone of air security far away of your country borders.. all the way to ground level. But as said Syria battle field is a very complex battle field , one where terrorist artillery provided by NATO and drones are at range of Russia military base.. So Russia can't just sent their best awacs to a war zone ,that the airspace is close to contested at times ,with air battles from time to time.