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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:33 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    ahmedfire wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Watched the vid... interesting... but saw this vid:


    Impressive, I need to learn Russian language Sad

    Same here. Sad

    Wish there were some Russian language courses where i live.

    Actually the next best thing you could do is fiddling with the captions and translation settings on the youtube vid, and here's how you can get rough translations in the captions:

    1.) Step one: click on the 'Youtube' icon on the bottom right corner of the video to get to the main youtube website.

    2.) Step two: click on the 'CC' caption icon on the dark blackish-grey bar at the bottom of the youtube video. It should automatically have Russian captions setting on.

    3.) Step three: click on the 'gear-cog' emblem to the right of the 'CC' captions icon to bring up video options. A transparent grey box should show up with some options, within that a dark grey box their is a white bar that has a 'Subtitles/CC' title to the left of it. Click on the black 'down arrow' and a white box should pop with caption/subtitle options, and click on the very bottom option with a grey divider line above...it should say 'Translate Captions'. It should bring up a dark grey box with a title 'Translate...', with a white bar with the name of languages. Click on the language bar, then scroll down till you find 'English'. Click on that, then click 'OK'.

    ...After you complete those steps you should get rough translations, however keep in mind it's far from perfect...it has a hard time translating fast speech, slurred words, some trouble with accents and slang...but with that being said you should get a good enough rough translation that you can get a basic understanding on what they're talking about.


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    Post  Werewolf Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:56 pm

    Presented quite like a sensationalistic journalist, he has no idea how it works but kind of ridiculous the work with his attempts to produce a TV show, i don't like such shows.

    However the technology is awesome.

    The vehicle was shown at the end, that is powerful enough to jam AWACS powerful radars and networks.

    The Mi-8 with a big magnetron, a big microwave so powerful that they could fry the passengers on board, that is why the entire cockpit is isolated in faradaic cage. Jamming entire battlefields and the coolest vehicle was the mobile EM couple, that produces an EM field to let Radar guided missiles think they already reached their target and detonate high in the sky instead killing Radars,SAM's etc.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:07 am

    Yeah... I didn't understand a word, but that bit where the Uragan launchers are firing a barrage of rockets and the EW vehicle is clearly spoofing their proximity fuses and making them explode at a safe altitude was interesting...

    Shame they don't have a few of those in Eastern Ukraine.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:04 am

    GarryB wrote:Yeah... I didn't understand a word, but that bit where the Uragan launchers are firing a barrage of rockets and the EW vehicle is clearly spoofing their proximity fuses and making them explode at a safe altitude was interesting...

    Shame they don't have a few of those in Eastern Ukraine.

    Well that vehicle is only designed to simulate an Radar radiating vehicle as a dome dozens of meters above the ground so they detonate in safe distance, the problem is i don't know any fuzes on Uragans or Grads that are reacting to radar bandwidths or emitters.
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    Post  ahmedfire Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:03 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    ahmedfire wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Watched the vid... interesting... but saw this vid:


    Impressive, I need to learn Russian language Sad

    Same here. Sad

    Wish there were some Russian language courses where i live.

    Actually the next best thing you could do is fiddling with the captions and translation settings on the youtube vid, and here's how you can get rough translations in the captions:

    1.) Step one: click on the 'Youtube' icon on the bottom right corner of the video to get to the main youtube website.

    2.) Step two: click on the 'CC' caption icon on the dark blackish-grey bar at the bottom of the youtube video. It should automatically have Russian captions setting on.

    3.) Step three: click on the 'gear-cog' emblem to the right of the 'CC' captions icon to bring up video options. A transparent grey box should show up with some options, within that a dark grey box their is a white bar that has a 'Subtitles/CC' title to the left of it. Click on the black 'down arrow' and a white box should pop with caption/subtitle options, and click on the very bottom option with a grey divider line above...it should say 'Translate Captions'. It should bring up a dark grey box with a title 'Translate...', with a white bar with the name of languages. Click on the language bar, then scroll down till you find 'English'. Click on that, then click 'OK'.

    ...After you complete those steps you should get rough translations, however keep in mind it's far from perfect...it has a hard time translating fast speech, slurred words, some trouble with accents and slang...but with that being said you should get a good enough rough translation that you can get a basic understanding on what they're talking about.

    Yes i tried it before but no english appeared ,don't know why!
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:22 am

    Well that vehicle is only designed to simulate an Radar radiating vehicle as a dome dozens of meters above the ground so they detonate in safe distance, the problem is i don't know any fuzes on Uragans or Grads that are reacting to radar bandwidths or emitters.

    In that case it would be acting against simple radio proximity fuses.

    On the artillery rockets to get an air burst the fuses send out a simple weak radio signal. Large solid things like the ground reflect the signal... once the reflected signal gets to a certain strength it can assume the flat object or ground is a specific distance and will set off the payload.

    So for instance on the fuse of the weapon there is a fuse setting for an air burst 5 metres above the ground or 3 metres off the ground. the radio fuse will have been calibrated so that when it is 5 or 3 metres from the ground the level of radio signal return is measured so that when it reaches that return level of power the warhead goes off.

    This vehicle defeats proximity air burst fuses by detecting the radio signal from the fuses and transmitting that signal as powerfully as it can do no matter what distance they are they will set off the fuses...

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    Post  George1 Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:09 pm

    Share of new equipment in Russia's electronic warfare troops to reach 70% by 2020

    The troops will receive radio jamming devices, radar and navigation equipment, systems for the protection from high-precision weapons, as well as control and support equipment

    MOSCOW, April 15. /TASS/. The share of modern technological equipment in the Russia’s electronic warfare (EW) troops will reach about 70% by 2020, and this year the troops will receive about 300 newest samples, the Defense Ministry’s press service told TASS on Wednesday - Russian army’s EW Expert Day.

    "In recent years the troops are undergoing large-scale re-equipment, getting modern technology, including electronic warfare equipment. The upgrading is aimed at increasing the share of modern EW equipment by 2020 to 70%, which is feasible given the current funding of the federal weapons development programme," the Defense Ministry said.

    According to the ministry, the troops will receive radio jamming devices, radar and navigation equipment, systems for the protection from high-precision weapons, as well as control and support equipment. "Among them, particular importance is attached to the Krasuha-2O, Murmansk-BN, Borisoglebsk-2, Krasuha-S4 and Svet-KU advanced ground-based electronic warfare systems," the Defense Ministry reported.

    According to the ministry, the Russian armed forces today are equipped with state-of-the-art electronic surveillance and electronic jamming systems, which are not inferior to their best foreign analogues, and even surpass them in a number of characteristics.
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    Post  max steel Mon May 04, 2015 5:42 pm

    Electronic Warfare Division in the Trans-Baikal train disabling drones of imaginary enemy .With military electronic warfare units of motorized infantry compounds Eastern Military District stationed in Trans-Baikal Territory, held special tactical exercises to combat unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles imaginary enemy controlled by radio. The exercise will be worked out issues of cooperation and interaction of different stations and complexes jamming and intelligence as a new generation and the old workings. In addition, the staff of the departments with the help of an automated electronic warfare jamming stations “resident” will work on the issues and effects of disabling navigational systems of unmanned aircraft.




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    Post  Viktor Mon May 25, 2015 9:08 pm

    Might and Power of Russian Krasuha-4 ECM thumbsup


    "electronic warfare battalion equipped with new technical means capable of easily cover land area the size of a hundred to a hundred kilometers. Within this area the opponent will not be able to conduct radio and radar reconnaissance, to apply to a given accuracy precision weapons such as cruise missiles, "- the source said.

    "Krasuha-4" has been successfully working for the American satellite radar reconnaissance class "Lacrosse", which are designed in particular for the surveillance of the position area of mobile ground complexes "Topol "or" yars "- a spokesman said.
    He recalled that radar reconnaissance satellites can be monitored "through the clouds." "Our station EW able to find a satellite and put the necessary protection," - a spokesman said.

    Russia has developed electronic warfare agents that could "hide" from the positional areas of space exploration, "Topol"
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    Post  victor1985 Sat May 30, 2015 8:05 pm

    Does russia have something similar to this?
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
    It can be used as a emp weapon
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    Post  2SPOOKY4U Sat May 30, 2015 8:38 pm

    victor1985 wrote:Does russia have something similar to this?
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
    It can be used as a emp weapon

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    There are even more types of EW systems in the Russian inventory.

    Things that can set off fuses, blind radars, etc.
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    Post  max steel Sat May 30, 2015 9:04 pm

    [quote="Viktor"]Might and Power of Russian Krasuha-4 ECM  thumbsup




          "Krasuha-4" has been successfully working for the American satellite radar reconnaissance class "Lacrosse", which are designed in particular for the surveillance of the position area of mobile ground complexes "Topol "or" yars "- a spokesman said.
          He recalled that radar reconnaissance satellites can be monitored "through the clouds." "Our station EW able to find a satellite and put the necessary protection," - a spokesman said.

    So it can basically jam usa recon Lacros sat in space monitoring russian ground mobile topol nukes position area ? But if topols are mobile then how come it can be viewed from recon sat ?

    If US posses satellites keeping an eye on russian nukes then what about Russia ? Do they keep an eye on american deployed ground nukes from their satellites
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    Post  victor1985 Sun May 31, 2015 11:40 am

    2SPOOKY4U wrote:
    victor1985 wrote:Does russia have something similar to this?
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
    It can be used as a emp weapon

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    There are even more types of EW systems in the Russian inventory.

    Things that can set off fuses, blind radars, etc.
    Then i have a question: every country has and will have this kind of sistems....so knowing that a missile, rocket and so on has few electronic sistems because of space and this kind of sistems are big and have a lot of power why missiles and rockets are still used? Is like...do a mig 29 whit nothing but a emp weapon and a nice engine...could burn any rocket that targeting to mig. No matter how many protections has the missile...because of limited weight it can carry and the fact that must have a hole to transmit something to base give them vulnerability. Even if they have own radar can be burnt. Just take a mig cover all over whit antennas (different lenghts of antennas to give different waves) put a power source and that is. Or better if fighters arent so big use just another plane that has a lot of space. Ofcourse this affects the speed of war but conventional planes can be maked better. In no case a truck could have more speed than a plane. Just imagine a boeing like size plane whit antennas and batteryes + protections from attack. Ok only threat to a plane could be a non electrical cannon or a railgun....
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:45 pm

    Scientists are working to develop EW for hypersonic aircraft

    So now Shoigu will revive Ajaks project Smile


    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2028539

    MOSCOW, June 8. / TASS /. Scientists are working on electronic warfare (EW), compatible with the hypersound. This was announced in an interview to "Rossiyskaya Gazeta", which will be published on Tuesday, Chief Designer "Concern Radio-electronic technology" (KRET) Yuri Majewski.

    According to him, at the moment hypersonic aircraft and electronics are still in conflict, but scientists have already begun to think about how to combine them. "Once there was hypersound, the best scientists think about how to combine them," - said general designer KRET.

    He explained that the object of hypersonic flight is in the plasma formation. "To radio waves could overcome plasma emitters are required of materials with completely new properties. This is from the field of chemistry," - said Majewski.
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    Post  whir Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:17 pm

    max steel wrote:So it can basically jam usa recon Lacros sat in space monitoring russian ground mobile  topol nukes position area ?  But if topols are mobile then how come it can be viewed from recon sat ?
    Because it's not rocket science, those transports are accounted at all times and stored in well known locations, they also move over preplanned routes to fixed launch positions during exercises so in theory is fairly easy to locate them knowing when and were to look.
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    Post  max steel Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:32 pm

    only in theory ? if they practice on the same route then it can be targeted easily during war also
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:40 pm

    Russia developing new-generation network-centric warfare system — manufacturer

    Its task is to suppress the enemy’s communications and control channels in a wide range of frequencies, including satellite communication channels

    MOSCOW, June 15. /TASS/. Russia has developed a new-generation electronic warfare system fitted out with equipment for network centric operations, the United Instrument-Making Corporation (UIMC) said on Monday.

    "The UIMC is working on developing promising electronic warfare systems. In particular, a new-generation electronic warfare system will enter the stage of state trials soon. Its task is to suppress the enemy’s communications and control channels in a wide range of frequencies, including satellite communication channels," the corporation’s representative said.

    The EW system’s combat capabilities and range have increased considerably compared to the previous versions, the representative said.

    "The development is systemic and can be fitted as a combat unit into the automatic combat control system. The system can provide for the operation of other manufacturers’ electronic warfare systems, integrating separate combat units into whole electronic warfare complexes of striking efficiency," the representative said.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:53 pm

    Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

    Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

    Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"
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    Post  2SPOOKY4U Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:53 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

    Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

    Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

    Interesting, a non-depletable system of dealing with with massed threats like LOCUST.

    I would have thought the Russians would not bother with something like this as for Locust to be low cost enough to mass attack, they would have to be low range, and low speed, and have a less than adequate sensor outfit.

    Any platform that attempted to deploy them would be massacred, and any submarine that attempted to deploy them becomes vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike as Voronezh-class radars can detect cruise missile launches, which startlingly, behave much like this system, and since shockwaves travel very well through water, and that Western subs are monohulled...

    But hey, layers upon layers.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:18 am

    2SPOOKY4U wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

    Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

    Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

    Interesting, a non-depletable system of dealing with with massed threats like LOCUST.

    I would have thought the Russians would not bother with something like this as for Locust to be low cost enough to mass attack, they would have to be low range, and low speed, and have a less than adequate sensor outfit.

    Any platform that attempted to deploy them would be massacred, and any submarine that attempted to deploy them becomes vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike as Voronezh-class radars can detect cruise missile launches, which startlingly, behave much like this system, and since shockwaves travel very well through water, and that Western subs are monohulled...

    But hey, layers upon layers.

    Forget all the nonsense about why the West put sanctions on Kret, the real reason is that Kret is probably the best tech company in world when ECM warfare is concerned....and it's hard to spread democracy and humanitarian bombing when your JDAM's are being jammed.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:24 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

    Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

    Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

    I'm curious on its look.

    However i think it won't be much different to Ranets system.
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:29 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

    Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

    Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

    I'm curious on its look.

    However i think it won't be much different to Ranets system.

    It probably is the 'Ranets' system (probably updated) although it's apparently mounted on a tracked BUK chassis instead of the wheelled MAZ as advertised in the early 2000's....interesting stuff

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    Post  Flanky Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:11 pm

    Yes it would be an updated version of Ranets but it is good to see they are working on it so that Yanks won't get too "high" blabbering about their low cost UAVs... they would be turned into scrapheap and no S300 will be saturated by them when it will have a Ranets unit attached to it. Or atleast the site won't be destroyed.
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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:43 am

    Russia developing system capable of ‘switching off’ foreign military satellites

    "The system will be used against cruise missiles and will suppress satellite-based radio location systems. It will actually switch off enemy weapons", Russia’s KRET Deputy CEO said

    MOSCOW, June 25. /TASS/. Russia’s Radio-Electronic Technologies Group (KRET) is developing a fundamentally new electronic warfare system capable of suppressing cruise missile and other high-precision weaponry guidance systems and satellite radio-electronic equipment, KRET Deputy CEO Yuri Mayevsky told TASS on Thursday.

    "The system will target the enemy’s deck-based, tactical, long-range and strategic aircraft, electronic means and suppress foreign military satellites’ radio-electronic equipment," Mayevsky said.

    The system will be mounted on ground-based, air-and seaborne carriers, he added.

    "It will not be based on satellites as this is prohibited by international rules and we comply with this rule," he said.

    Adviser to the KRET first deputy CEO Vladimir Mikheyev told TASS the integrated multifunctional electronic warfare system designed to target enemy aerospace vehicles would operate within the air defense and missile shield control contour.

    "It will fully suppress communications, navigation and target location and the use of high-precision weapons," Mikheyev said.

    "The system will be used against cruise missiles and will suppress satellite-based radio location systems. It will actually switch off enemy weapons."

    The system’s ground component will be tested soon, hec said. "Ground tests are now going on in workshops. At the end of the year, the system’s component will leave the factory gates for trials at testing ranges," he said.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:26 am

    George1 wrote:Russia developing system capable of ‘switching off’ foreign military satellites

    There's talk that this new EW system was first publicly mentioned at the end of 2013 under the code "Divnomore". It's either part of the "Moskva-1' complex (successor of the current "Avtobaza' system) or a further development of it.....it's expected to be ready in 2016

    The 2013 report: http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131211/983456821.html

    Moskva-1: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/moscow-1/

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