Russian Electronic Warfare Systems

AlfaT8 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:

GarryB wrote:Watched the vid... interesting... but saw this vid:

Impressive, I need to learn Russian language

Same here.

Wish there were some Russian language courses where i live.

Actually the next best thing you could do is fiddling with the captions and translation settings on the youtube vid, and here's how you can get rough translations in the captions:

1.) Step one: click on the 'Youtube' icon on the bottom right corner of the video to get to the main youtube website.

2.) Step two: click on the 'CC' caption icon on the dark blackish-grey bar at the bottom of the youtube video. It should automatically have Russian captions setting on.

3.) Step three: click on the 'gear-cog' emblem to the right of the 'CC' captions icon to bring up video options. A transparent grey box should show up with some options, within that a dark grey box their is a white bar that has a 'Subtitles/CC' title to the left of it. Click on the black 'down arrow' and a white box should pop with caption/subtitle options, and click on the very bottom option with a grey divider line above...it should say 'Translate Captions'. It should bring up a dark grey box with a title 'Translate...', with a white bar with the name of languages. Click on the language bar, then scroll down till you find 'English'. Click on that, then click 'OK'.

...After you complete those steps you should get rough translations, however keep in mind it's far from perfect...it has a hard time translating fast speech, slurred words, some trouble with accents and slang...but with that being said you should get a good enough rough translation that you can get a basic understanding on what they're talking about.

Presented quite like a sensationalistic journalist, he has no idea how it works but kind of ridiculous the work with his attempts to produce a TV show, i don't like such shows.

However the technology is awesome.

The vehicle was shown at the end, that is powerful enough to jam AWACS powerful radars and networks.

The Mi-8 with a big magnetron, a big microwave so powerful that they could fry the passengers on board, that is why the entire cockpit is isolated in faradaic cage. Jamming entire battlefields and the coolest vehicle was the mobile EM couple, that produces an EM field to let Radar guided missiles think they already reached their target and detonate high in the sky instead killing Radars,SAM's etc.

Yeah... I didn't understand a word, but that bit where the Uragan launchers are firing a barrage of rockets and the EW vehicle is clearly spoofing their proximity fuses and making them explode at a safe altitude was interesting...

Shame they don't have a few of those in Eastern Ukraine.

GarryB wrote:Yeah... I didn't understand a word, but that bit where the Uragan launchers are firing a barrage of rockets and the EW vehicle is clearly spoofing their proximity fuses and making them explode at a safe altitude was interesting...

Shame they don't have a few of those in Eastern Ukraine.

Well that vehicle is only designed to simulate an Radar radiating vehicle as a dome dozens of meters above the ground so they detonate in safe distance, the problem is i don't know any fuzes on Uragans or Grads that are reacting to radar bandwidths or emitters.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:

GarryB wrote:Watched the vid... interesting... but saw this vid:

Impressive, I need to learn Russian language

Same here.

Wish there were some Russian language courses where i live.

Actually the next best thing you could do is fiddling with the captions and translation settings on the youtube vid, and here's how you can get rough translations in the captions:

1.) Step one: click on the 'Youtube' icon on the bottom right corner of the video to get to the main youtube website.

2.) Step two: click on the 'CC' caption icon on the dark blackish-grey bar at the bottom of the youtube video. It should automatically have Russian captions setting on.

3.) Step three: click on the 'gear-cog' emblem to the right of the 'CC' captions icon to bring up video options. A transparent grey box should show up with some options, within that a dark grey box their is a white bar that has a 'Subtitles/CC' title to the left of it. Click on the black 'down arrow' and a white box should pop with caption/subtitle options, and click on the very bottom option with a grey divider line above...it should say 'Translate Captions'. It should bring up a dark grey box with a title 'Translate...', with a white bar with the name of languages. Click on the language bar, then scroll down till you find 'English'. Click on that, then click 'OK'.

...After you complete those steps you should get rough translations, however keep in mind it's far from perfect...it has a hard time translating fast speech, slurred words, some trouble with accents and slang...but with that being said you should get a good enough rough translation that you can get a basic understanding on what they're talking about.

Yes i tried it before but no english appeared ,don't know why!

Well that vehicle is only designed to simulate an Radar radiating vehicle as a dome dozens of meters above the ground so they detonate in safe distance, the problem is i don't know any fuzes on Uragans or Grads that are reacting to radar bandwidths or emitters.

In that case it would be acting against simple radio proximity fuses.

On the artillery rockets to get an air burst the fuses send out a simple weak radio signal. Large solid things like the ground reflect the signal... once the reflected signal gets to a certain strength it can assume the flat object or ground is a specific distance and will set off the payload.

So for instance on the fuse of the weapon there is a fuse setting for an air burst 5 metres above the ground or 3 metres off the ground. the radio fuse will have been calibrated so that when it is 5 or 3 metres from the ground the level of radio signal return is measured so that when it reaches that return level of power the warhead goes off.

This vehicle defeats proximity air burst fuses by detecting the radio signal from the fuses and transmitting that signal as powerfully as it can do no matter what distance they are they will set off the fuses...

Might and Power of Russian Krasuha-4 ECM

"electronic warfare battalion equipped with new technical means capable of easily cover land area the size of a hundred to a hundred kilometers. Within this area the opponent will not be able to conduct radio and radar reconnaissance, to apply to a given accuracy precision weapons such as cruise missiles, "- the source said.

"Krasuha-4" has been successfully working for the American satellite radar reconnaissance class "Lacrosse", which are designed in particular for the surveillance of the position area of mobile ground complexes "Topol "or" yars "- a spokesman said.
He recalled that radar reconnaissance satellites can be monitored "through the clouds." "Our station EW able to find a satellite and put the necessary protection," - a spokesman said.

Russia has developed electronic warfare agents that could "hide" from the positional areas of space exploration, "Topol"

Does russia have something similar to this?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
It can be used as a emp weapon

victor1985 wrote:Does russia have something similar to this?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
It can be used as a emp weapon

There are even more types of EW systems in the Russian inventory.

Things that can set off fuses, blind radars, etc.

[quote="Viktor"]Might and Power of Russian Krasuha-4 ECM  

      "Krasuha-4" has been successfully working for the American satellite radar reconnaissance class "Lacrosse", which are designed in particular for the surveillance of the position area of mobile ground complexes "Topol "or" yars "- a spokesman said.
      He recalled that radar reconnaissance satellites can be monitored "through the clouds." "Our station EW able to find a satellite and put the necessary protection," - a spokesman said.

So it can basically jam usa recon Lacros sat in space monitoring russian ground mobile topol nukes position area ? But if topols are mobile then how come it can be viewed from recon sat ?

If US posses satellites keeping an eye on russian nukes then what about Russia ? Do they keep an eye on american deployed ground nukes from their satellites

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

victor1985 wrote:Does russia have something similar to this?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine
It can be used as a emp weapon

There are even more types of EW systems in the Russian inventory.

Things that can set off fuses, blind radars, etc.

Then i have a question: every country has and will have this kind of sistems....so knowing that a missile, rocket and so on has few electronic sistems because of space and this kind of sistems are big and have a lot of power why missiles and rockets are still used? Is like...do a mig 29 whit nothing but a emp weapon and a nice engine...could burn any rocket that targeting to mig. No matter how many protections has the missile...because of limited weight it can carry and the fact that must have a hole to transmit something to base give them vulnerability. Even if they have own radar can be burnt. Just take a mig cover all over whit antennas (different lenghts of antennas to give different waves) put a power source and that is. Or better if fighters arent so big use just another plane that has a lot of space. Ofcourse this affects the speed of war but conventional planes can be maked better. In no case a truck could have more speed than a plane. Just imagine a boeing like size plane whit antennas and batteryes + protections from attack. Ok only threat to a plane could be a non electrical cannon or a railgun....

Scientists are working to develop EW for hypersonic aircraft

So now Shoigu will revive Ajaks project


http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2028539

MOSCOW, June 8. / TASS /. Scientists are working on electronic warfare (EW), compatible with the hypersound. This was announced in an interview to "Rossiyskaya Gazeta", which will be published on Tuesday, Chief Designer "Concern Radio-electronic technology" (KRET) Yuri Majewski.

According to him, at the moment hypersonic aircraft and electronics are still in conflict, but scientists have already begun to think about how to combine them. "Once there was hypersound, the best scientists think about how to combine them," - said general designer KRET.

He explained that the object of hypersonic flight is in the plasma formation. "To radio waves could overcome plasma emitters are required of materials with completely new properties. This is from the field of chemistry," - said Majewski.

max steel wrote:So it can basically jam usa recon Lacros sat in space monitoring russian ground mobile  topol nukes position area ?  But if topols are mobile then how come it can be viewed from recon sat ?

Because it's not rocket science, those transports are accounted at all times and stored in well known locations, they also move over preplanned routes to fixed launch positions during exercises so in theory is fairly easy to locate them knowing when and were to look.

only in theory ? if they practice on the same route then it can be targeted easily during war also

Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

Interesting, a non-depletable system of dealing with with massed threats like LOCUST.

I would have thought the Russians would not bother with something like this as for Locust to be low cost enough to mass attack, they would have to be low range, and low speed, and have a less than adequate sensor outfit.

Any platform that attempted to deploy them would be massacred, and any submarine that attempted to deploy them becomes vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike as Voronezh-class radars can detect cruise missile launches, which startlingly, behave much like this system, and since shockwaves travel very well through water, and that Western subs are monohulled...

But hey, layers upon layers.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

Interesting, a non-depletable system of dealing with with massed threats like LOCUST.

I would have thought the Russians would not bother with something like this as for Locust to be low cost enough to mass attack, they would have to be low range, and low speed, and have a less than adequate sensor outfit.

Any platform that attempted to deploy them would be massacred, and any submarine that attempted to deploy them becomes vulnerable to a nuclear missile strike as Voronezh-class radars can detect cruise missile launches, which startlingly, behave much like this system, and since shockwaves travel very well through water, and that Western subs are monohulled...

But hey, layers upon layers.

Forget all the nonsense about why the West put sanctions on Kret, the real reason is that Kret is probably the best tech company in world when ECM warfare is concerned....and it's hard to spread democracy and humanitarian bombing when your JDAM's are being jammed.

magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

I'm curious on its look.

However i think it won't be much different to Ranets system.

Stealthflanker wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:Rostec has unveiled a new microwave ECM 'cannon' to aid SHORAD:

Russia to kill drones, missiles with 10km-range super-high frequency cannon

Experts will demonstrate DIC "microwave gun"

I'm curious on its look.

However i think it won't be much different to Ranets system.

It probably is the 'Ranets' system (probably updated) although it's apparently mounted on a tracked BUK chassis instead of the wheelled MAZ as advertised in the early 2000's....interesting stuff

Yes it would be an updated version of Ranets but it is good to see they are working on it so that Yanks won't get too "high" blabbering about their low cost UAVs... they would be turned into scrapheap and no S300 will be saturated by them when it will have a Ranets unit attached to it. Or atleast the site won't be destroyed.

George1 wrote:Russia developing system capable of ‘switching off’ foreign military satellites

There's talk that this new EW system was first publicly mentioned at the end of 2013 under the code "Divnomore". It's either part of the "Moskva-1' complex (successor of the current "Avtobaza' system) or a further development of it.....it's expected to be ready in 2016

The 2013 report: http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131211/983456821.html

Moskva-1: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/moscow-1/