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    Post  gaurav Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:13 am



    his entire forum has been hijacked by some Asians with vested interest who are posting their vile & disgusting material to vilify Europeans.

    Yu dont differentiate between west euro and east europeans.

    I can understand your logic but I cannot be be as BLUNT as you are in your point of view Smile 

    Asians they are not involved here. That I the can say.

    This thread was hijacked I agree but this thread was very important thread in the whole forum.

    It symbolized the most important civil religious war in the Middle east where even U.K is involved.

    This thread was hijacked just beacause some thought it would be good to  use "CHANGE THE TOPIC".
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    Post  gaurav Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:20 am

    Now back to the topic
    Syrian army making gains but at the cost of lives and resources.
    SAA captures central mosque in HOMS


    Syrian government forces captured a historic mosque in the central city of Homs on Saturday, expelling rebel forces who
    had been in control of the 13th century landmark for more than a year and dealing a symbolic blow to opposition forces.

    State-run news agency SANA quoted an unnamed military official as saying that troops took control of the Khalid Ibn
    al-Walid Mosque in the heavily disputed northern neighborhood of Khaldiyeh.

    Syrian TV aired a report Saturday night with footage from inside the mosque, showing heavy damage and the tomb's dome
    knocked out. The footage showed debris strewn on the floor and a portion of the mosque appeared to have been burned.

    The mosque, famous for its nine domes and two minarets, has been a symbol for rebels in the city that is known as
    "the capital of the revolution." On Monday, government troops shelled the mosque, damaging the tomb of Ibn al-Walid,
    a revered figure in Islam.

    After capturing the strategic town of Qusair near the Lebanon border last month, government troops launched an offensive
    on rebel-held areas in Homs, Syria's third largest city, late in June. They have been pushing into Khaldiyeh and other neighborhoods
    in the Old City that have been under opposition control since 2011.


    Syria cannot be locked in civil war forverer.
    This is from the most prestigious U.K news paper. Shocked 

    SAA carving Homs and giving autonomy to rebel lands


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    SAA making plans to CARVE OUT Syria and give Rebel lands to Saudi and Qatar kingdoms




    Concerns are particularly focused on Homs, Syria's third city, which western observers believe is likely to fall to the regime
    military and Hezbollah by the end of the summer, in what would be the most striking gain yet by resurgent pro-Assad forces during the civil war.

    All property records for Homs were destroyed in a fire earlier this month at the office of the city's land registry and residents
    fear they can no longer enforce a claim to their land and homes.

    "What else could be going on?" asked one resident who refused to be identified. "This is the most secure area of the city and
    it is the only building that has been burned. A conspiracy is underway."

    Former staff at the office say the records existed only on paper and had not yet been digitalised. Eyewitnesses in the
    Bab al-Hood district where the building is located, and several employees, reported seeing flames on the higher floors of
    the building on 5 July, where the files were archived, while regime forces were positioned on lower floors.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:31 pm

    Can somebody get rid of this racist asshole already?
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    Post  Pyrrus Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:43 am

    I recommend taking a look at this map picturing the situation in Syria, with details about certain areas and cities beneath:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_civil_war#Damascus


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    Post  Pyrrus Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:46 am

    there's a news agency NEWSANNA reporting about the situation in Syria, making reports daily, some of them you may watch here (English subtitles):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyyj28AR2oA&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4plk4Vqc-2o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y24B8AbUteM&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
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    Post  As Sa'iqa Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:41 am

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    Post  Pyrrus Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:47 am

    Qabon, near Damascus, cleaning a local bus station:
    1. part 1 - attack begins:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTNRdGeH48&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
    2. part 2 - attack on the left flank continues:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckduinuwDSk&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
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    Post  Pyrrus Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:14 pm

    Qabon, near Damascus, cleaning a local bus station:
    part 3 - bravery against fire
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwH20IFYY2U&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
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    Post  Hachimoto Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:07 pm

    Let's stay military not supporting any side (except the civilian of course) please
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    Post  NationalRus Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:43 pm

    it disturbs me how bad we are in geopolitics, doing everything half hearted, our special forces should have been training syrian special forces since 2 years now, we should have delivered hundrets of new sniper rifles thousends of new NV devices, drones and cluster bombs
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    Post  Pyrrus Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:29 pm

    Syrian army has learned much so far and still is learning. Russian army has much to teach from its experience during Chechen war. Don't worry. What may cause problem is direct NATO intervention. In a meantime watch the footage made yesterday in Damascus during Army's Day rally
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rcMOa13o4&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q
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    Post  NationalRus Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:36 pm

    it has indeed gathered combat expirience, also iran and hezbollah played a big part in major succeces to win major battles like in al qusair, providing much needed training and combat assistence, while were are only giving lip service, thats not how you defend or advance your geopolitical interests...

    the west proudly says on TV how ther are providng tis an that and comunnication, and money, and weapons, probably paying for qatari/saudi specops in syria maybe even having some own boots on the ground like in libya, and we? nothing, not abandoning arms contracts which will be serviced "after" the conflict Suspect 

    and lets face it ther will be no military victory with that policy, with help of hezbollah and iran assad gained ground back, but best case scenario is he will be like the biggest power in a heavly devided country with probably about 70-80% control, a stalemate, daily/weekly terrorism and thats the best kind scenario! like somalia, only with the bigger power on his side the goverment will not be 3 blocks in mogadishu like in somalia but with about 70% over the country, the other 30% ther is NO WAY he will take back, huge areas, a lot of small citys and villages half of aleppo, all will be international-terrorist zones and the kurds are ther too.

    ther is no manpower to take everything back, and even if (like we delivered the needed weaponry and trainning, cluster bombs, hightech infantry weapons) and a near full take back will be possible ther will be unbeliveble huge problemms, impossible problemms to hold the territory.

    the onlyl logical goal is now if we would have the guts is to strengthen assads possition, deliver the needed weaponary, after some important strategic areas are fought back and the possition solidifyd a political solution must be reached

    its not a chechna situation, not even a sri lanka situation were the rebels could be fought till the last km² and they had no were to run then in to the ocean, this is much worse its a somalia situation
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:54 pm

    Few things that are important to notice here.

    - Kurds are on a offensive against the bandits and are kicking ass

    - Turks are letting bandits in Syria only one way (one way to hell) recently group of 1000 bandits was destroyed because Turks did not let them cross the border

    - That will have significan impact on morale and fighting spirit knowing that once they come in the Syria there is no way out but in body bags  

    - Syrian ministry for reconciliation is gaining momentum and more and more of domestic bandits are returning under rule of Syran government (there was even case in one city under 
      bandit control who surrendered to the Syrian Army without a single shoot being fired)

    - Mothers and brothers and families of bandits with their message to their sons and relatives to surrender and lay down their arms are being distributed throughout country 

    - About a year ago whole Syrian commanding hierarchy was replaced based on only skill and capability shown in combat while on the other hand much as 80-90% of original bandit 
       command structure is destroyed. 

    - Jordanian Army on several occasions captured bandits trying to sumggle arms into Jordan which is significant as it shows reverse pattern in bandit behaviour

    - in about 10 days Homs will be cleared
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    Post  As Sa'iqa Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:30 pm

    Now post the source of your information. They seem quite contradictory to what can be seen in reality.

    If the current command of the Syrian Army was appointed on the basis of skill - it's scary to even think what are less capable ones like. SAA makes basic mistakes on both strategical and tactical levels of command. They still maintain remote outposts (sometimes manned by only by a squad or so) that can be annihilated easily, they stilll send tanks or bmps without proper infantry cover etc etc. There are many cases which support my opinion. Recently an entire company of SAA was encircled and annihilated in Khan Al Asal near Aleppo.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:17 pm

    I dont have my computer and wont have it for another several days so no links until than only info. Another important thing I forgot to mention.

    - because of Syrian ministry of peaceful society reintegration and success it has obtain bandit leaders have found themselves in rather bizzare situation. They have no idea 
      when and how many and where are bandit solders gona accept Syrian Army peace treaty. So many bandits are being peacefuly reintegrated back in the society that bandit mindset is 
       psychotic and they are shooting everyone believed to want to run away. Truth is out and that is only extracting counter effect 

    - Numerous massacre done recently to civilians and captured solders 

    My personel belief is that after Homs, Syrian Army will advance to quickly take over all countryside around Idlib and Aleppo shortly after cutting all logistic lines in full thus making 
    reducing fighting value of bandit solders and preparing for final push in the infested parts of Aleppo.
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    Post  NationalRus Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:49 am

    no way on earth, your nummbers of terrorist losses are far to exaggerated, the best ambush by the SAA was about 40 terroroist in reacent months, reported and with bodies shown on ANNA news, everything else is speculaton

    homs will probably fall soon, SAA hold the major part of the city and after supplies from al qusair were cut a take over will come soon with hezbollah help, but thats it, ther is not enough manpower to take aleppo fully, maybe posible but not more, the north of the country is also nearly lost, menagh is under siege und holding out since januar, unbelivble actaully, the 200 soldier now since over half a year under nonstop siege... if some of them ever makes it out i hope he writes a book about it, but still they will fall soon if no rescue offensive is started soon to help them break out

    the kurds are not allies, yeah they fight the terrorist on "some" occasions but also allie themselfs with them somtimes, and therare not pro goverment force eather, ther are no SAA forces alowed in "ther" territory, and ther were violently thrown out al qamishli, also they have brought support by now from kurds from iraq and turkey, so yeah ther are NO allies, they will only accept goverment poer if all the terrorist are indeed deafeted, which will never happen, and they wll face themselfs allone against SAA when SAA will be holding every bit of country surrounding them

    also if the SAA doesnt hold bck enough manpower in the fought back citys and doesnt establish ther pro goverment militia which will defend the city if any new terrorist try to infiltrate it will fall abck all over again, like it happned in az-zawiyah libya, they besieged the town, fought it back in a couple of weeks but after mot of the troops left to fight on othr fronts or deserted it was taken back by the rebels in a couple of hours, hours!!
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    Post  Zivo Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:53 am

    Action around Menagh has slowed. We used to get daily videos from the FSA in the area. Since the first reports that a SAA convoy reached the base, FSA videos from Menagh have become a rarity.

    Why haven't the supposedly mighty and numerous FSA in northern Aleppo taken this base yet?
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    Post  gaurav Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:12 am


    Action around Menagh has slowed. We used to get daily videos from the FSA in the area. Since the first reports that a SAA convoy reached the base, FSA videos from Menagh have become a rarity.
    Congrats to All.
    SAA becomin unstopable ? But caution should prevail. Nothing is decided yet.
    SAA should move forward with caution and other wise it will end up losing lives .


    Three months after winning the strategic town of Al Qusayr, the combined Syrian and Hizballah armies have captured the historic Muslim
    Brotherhood city of Homs, 162 kilometers northeast of the capital Damascus. DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report that
    Sunday, July 28, jeeps with recoilless guns, pick-up trucks with anti air guns - all loaded with defeated rebel Farouq Brigades fighters
    were to be seen fleeing the city. As they fled, Syrian and Hizballah army tanks facing no resistance rolled into the center of Homs,
    the old city and the Khladiyeh district and hoisted images of President Bashar Assad.
    The fall of Homs, which the rebels designated from the start of the uprising “capital of the revolution,” opens the way for Syrian-Hizballah
    forces to move north on Aleppo, Syria’s largest city.
    Aleppo’s capture would grant Assad a decisive victory in the civil war and confer on the Lebanese Shiite terrorist Hizballah for the
    first time the standing of an armed force with strategic capabilities, as well as giving the Iran-Syrian-Hizballah alliance a major boost.
    Early Monday, Syrian ground-to-ground missiles were pounding rebel fortifications Aleppo to soften their resistance, while Syrian
    air force
    helicopters struck Kurdish PYG units ranged along the Syrian-Turkish border. Although the helicopters flew over the frontier, they
    did not run into any interference from the Turkish air force, its artillery emplacements or the NATO Patriot anti-missile batteries deployed there.
    The Kurdish units were targeted to prevent them moving into Aleppo in defense of the city’s Kurdish quarters against the Syrian
    army-Hizballah advance.
    After the fall of Homs and the fast approaching Syrian assault on Aleppo, Washington, Jerusalem and Ankara have run out of time for
    quibbling whether to step into the Syrian conflict. The critical decision facing them now is whether to save Aleppo from a savage
    Syrian army-Hizballah onslaught that will determine the final fate of the war, or continue to stand aside.
    The various tactics outlined by top US soldier Gen. Martin Dempsey last week for US military intervention at a cost of $1 billion
    per month have been overtaken by events. The Obama administration must now decide very quickly whether Assad and
    his Russian and Iranian backers should be allowed to win the Syrian civil war or stopped at Aleppo.

    HEY hey hip hip hurray.. Great News ..cheers 
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    Post  Pyrrus Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:06 am

    I'd like to take a part in the discussion about 'remote outposts' mentioned above. Mostly there are military bases, air bases which have to be held to secure either their operational capacities or to prevent terrorists from taking over/destroy stored there aircrafts, ammo etc. It is not about tactics but necessity. Such base is held near Aleppo and in other places which is shown and written here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_civil_war#Damascus
    Yes, the operation goes slowly, but it has to be so. After months doing nothing, when terrorists had enough time to prepare themselves for defence the army and allies face obstacle after obstacle - fortified buildings, tunnels, well equipped bandits. Street after street. And counterattacks in directions which were supposed to be secure already. It takes time.
    And as for Chechnya and Ingushetia. These republics are getting more and more secure after YEARS of antiterrorist operations, and many other influences in order to stabilise the situation. Providing West didn't step in in Syria wouldn't be differently.
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    Post  medo Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:07 am

    It's interesting, that there is not much news in western medias about FSA-Kurds fightings in northeast Syria.
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    Post  Zivo Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:29 am

    medo wrote:It's interesting, that there is not much news in western medias about FSA-Kurds fightings in northeast Syria.

    That doesn't fit in the western storybook.
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    Post  Pyrrus Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:14 pm

    medo wrote:It's interesting, that there is not much news in western medias about FSA-Kurds fightings in northeast Syria.
    is this because Kurds don't use mobile phones as cameras? Don't have any public relations office in London? Who knows Smile 
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    Post  NationalRus Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:46 pm

    they do report it somewhat


    ther are in the moment some 200 kurds fighters and civilians captured by al nusra in the moment, thats great! would be even better if they wont reach a agreament and they would maybe even get massacred, that would break the chances of any kurd-terrorist allience for years to come, maybe even push the kurds back in a stratigic allience with the SAA, aynway its a win for the SAA

    lets hope its get worse
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    Post  As Sa'iqa Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:24 pm

    FSA looted about 150 ATGM missles (including Kornets) + an unknown number of launchers from 3 ammo storage sites near Damascus.

    I guess that they will significantly decrease the number of SAA armored vehicles operating in this region...
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    Post  NationalRus Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:45 pm

    As Sa'iqa wrote:FSA looted about 150 ATGM missles (including Kornets) + an unknown number of launchers from 3 ammo storage sites near Damascus.

    I guess that they will significantly decrease the number of SAA armored vehicles operating in this region...

    SAA improved ther armored combat sugnificantly, i was my self impressed how well armour and infantry work together on many annanews videos, FSA had significant anti-armour capabilities for over 1.5 years now including ATGM`s i doubt this new devolopment will be a "gamechanger" but very bad news anyways...

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