I mentioned the cases of Iraq and Kurdistan on purpose. I knew you would concentrate on Israel. Kurdistan is supported by Americans through airstrikes and weapons, Iraq is not only supported but the current administration was actually installed there by Americans.
The existence of a functioning democracy in these two pro US states is a proof that America is against democracy in the Middle East!?
I don't get it. I don't know if I should try to understand it as you're obviously an anti-US bigot.
As Sa'iqa wrote:I mentioned the cases of Iraq and Kurdistan on purpose. I knew you would concentrate on Israel. Kurdistan is supported by Americans through airstrikes and weapons, Iraq is not only supported but the current administration was actually installed there by Americans.
The existence of a functioning democracy in these two pro US states is a proof that America is against democracy in the Middle East!?
I don't get it. I don't know if I should try to understand it as you're obviously an anti-US bigot.
You are just plain and simple a derivate what is left when the rest of your kind goes through evolution.
Fact is USA does not give a shit about democracy the proof for that is 1952 Operation Ajax when the democratic Iran was made into a dictatorship Pro-US and exploiting Iranians oil for cents to Americans.
So where is USA democratic loving country when it is overthrowing democracies and installing militaristic dictatorships? The US does not have democracy in its own boarders, it is one party system a fabricated animal (democracy) that has several heads but only one body and it does not matter which of those two heads you choose they will both eat you alive and you will end up in the same organism.
Democracies are an utopia that never existed and it will not exist as long egoistic, fascistic and insane scum comes to power and abuses and exploits the masses as working labor but takes all the money and produced resources under own management, that is called oligarchy/kleptocracy. Look at any country you want, Israel is not socialistic, the common israeli pays far to much for living,housing, ensurance and gets almost nothing back aka Kleptocracy.
You are so brainwashed that you believe that democracy means you can spin a wheel with one and the same option which is spone by two different guys and you think that is the will of the majority.
Democracy means exactly this that the MAJORITY rules over the MINORITY. Now tell me where exactly is that the case, which country majority (common classed citizen) has any chance to influence the political system of domestic politics? There is no such country and never will be, because Referendums are only allowed by the establishment when they see that the outcome will fit their needs.
Fact is every single country is a dictatorship formed of different ideologies but non of those countries has any favorable ideology except into the right wing.
In all kinds of democracy, including those in which state matters are not decided through direct voting (outside Switzerland) winning elections does not mean that the winning party gains absolute power and can do whatever they please like Louis XIV in absolute monarchy or something like that. There is an intricate web of legal mechanisms designed precisely to prevent the winning party from gaining more power then they should have - from constitutions and constitutional courts to various mechanisms of sharing competences between state organs. (picking up some academic textbook about constitutional law would be a good idea, I don't know what law students in Germany are taught but I think it's similar to Poland.). I think
You have a fundamendal misunderstanding of my stance about the United States of America. I never stated in any of my post that Americans are saints or anything like that. They make mistakes and I guess now they would admit that operation ajax was a mistake. You may wonder why no such coup took place in Germany or Britain.
In short, though I don't want to be repetitive - if Arabs wanted to have democracy, they would have it. Kurds wanted it and they have it.
As Sa'iqa wrote:In all kinds of democracy, including those in which state matters are not decided through direct voting (outside Switzerland) winning elections does not mean that the winning party gains absolute power and can do whatever they please like Louis XIV in absolute monarchy or something like that. There is an intricate web of legal mechanisms designed precisely to prevent the winning party from gaining more power then they should have - from constitutions and constitutional courts to various mechanisms of sharing competences between state organs. (picking up some academic textbook about constitutional law would be a good idea, I don't know what law students in Germany are taught but I think it's similar to Poland.). I think
You have a fundamendal misunderstanding of my stance about the United States of America. I never stated in any of my post that Americans are saints or anything like that. They make mistakes and I guess now they would admit that operation ajax was a mistake. You may wonder why no such coup took place in Germany or Britain.
In short, though I don't want to be repetitive - if Arabs wanted to have democracy, they would have it. Kurds wanted it and they have it.
A ruling party or coalition between parties decide against the will of their citizens that is very well known and that is oligarchy.
Germany was with over 73% against GMO food, German parties in EU were not against GMO in the vote and decision if such bio-genocide food and crop is allowed to be used in Germany, today they are planting this shit in EU and in Germany, so tell me how again ist that Democratic where a minority (oligarchs) decide against the will of the population, that is called DICTATORSHIP, period.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Democracy is and what dictatorship of oligarchs is, the latter is the most common thing and the former is not existent at all.
Hannibal Barca wrote:If the Jews don't wipe out from the face of the Earth the nations of this planet will never live peacefully. Is a simple fact.
Very true. Give me a Borey-class nuclear submarine(fully ready) and 6 Bulava intercontinental missiles(ready to fire) and a crew of 90 men(fully trained on the Borey-class nuclear submarine) and I will make it happen.
Hannibal Barca wrote:If the Jews don't wipe out from the face of the Earth the nations of this planet will never live peacefully. Is a simple fact.
Very true. Give me a Borey-class nuclear submarine(fully ready) and 6 Bulava intercontinental missiles(ready to fire) and a crew of 90 men(fully trained on the Borey-class nuclear submarine) and I will make it happen.
Fucking Russians think they can talk. Catholics and their friends will never relax if they don't get us all. Today I was speaking with some friends from Crimea. They were telling me of the religious prosecutions of the Orthodox. I told them from the very beginning, I think I also wrote it here back in December 2013, this is a religious war going on there. Like in Ireland as well, communism, fascism and all this crap is for kids and naive.
To be honest, the Kurds brought the plague upon themselves - with their double-dealing and manipulations.
Back when Iraq was losing ground to ISIS at a steady rate - they asked for assistance from the Kurds; who deferred their answer and preferred to see Baghdad weakened. Well they certainly paid the price for that course of action. And now they're stuck between the Turks and the Islamists - both hostile to them. They might end up getting divided and plucked apart like Christmas turkey - but even if not, it will be constant war for them.
hi all, does anyone know if there's any information of current Syrian army/air force equipment numbers, I can't find any good info on this surely many tanks/afv's and aircraft have been destroyed or taken by rebels. The numbers left would be a good indication how likely the Government forces are likely to win the war.
Mig25 wrote:The americain government is responsible for the chaos in Syria.
But some US Fanboys .. will disagree with you.. They either cannot see beyond their noses or simply hired to confuse people about what happens in the middle east but also eastern Ukraine.
Take a look what happened weeks ago in a Syria conference.. when an American delegation of military veterans from intelligence.. was allowed to participate.. what they told..
Damascus Syria December 1 2014... Conference against terrorism..
Duff explained that what is going on in Iraq and Syria with ISIS is not Terrorism, it is simply CRIME. That is, it is the works of an international Crime Cabal which has gotten control of the American Congress. Yes, this is a large Organized Crime problem that must be understood at its simple root cause. Duff identified this Crime Cabal as Israeli and pointed out that this is Worldwide Crime on a scale never experienced before.
excerpt -------------------- Gordon Duff: In 2005, the Supreme Court of the United States had a decision on a case called Citizens United. The decision of the Supreme Court legalized unlimited corporate bribery.
This turned control of the Congress of the United States over to human traffickers, narcotics traffickers and in particular, the most powerful individual in the United States today is a gambling boss named Sheldon Adelson, an Israeli citizen who fled the US living in Macau.
He spent over one billion dollars in the last election and bought control of both Houses of Congress.
Now Senator John McCain, the father of al Nusra, the father of ISIS, will be running US legislative and military foreign policy.
Gordon Duff: American generals like General McInerny and General Paul Vallely, specialists in psychological warfare, helped organize Daish.
They have traveled in and out of your country here, Syria, over and over, as had Senator John McCain.
Meeting with al Qaeda – an organization created by the American, Saudi and Israeli Defense Forces and Intelligence Services.
Gordon Duff: Only a week ago, the US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, resigned.
Chuck Hagel was the individual that stopped the United States from bombing Syria over the false flag gas attacks near Aleppo.
Gordon Duff: It was our organization here that supplied the intelligence that stopped those attacks.
Not many american people who had important careers on the US military ,will pay thousands of dollars on traveling on planes from US to Europe to Lebanon then to Syria.. to visit a conference in a nation at war and denounce their own government of international crimes. And give advices them how to better make their voices be heard on the international community ,to Pressure USA to stop their illegal and criminal war on Syria.
And here is the head of the snake.. the demon who control the US Congress and US foreign policy in middle east.. Who leads the criminal organization that controls the US congress and who is destroying the world with terrorism.
IT is possible to look more evil than this madman?
from wikipedia..
Sheldon Adelson
American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. He is the chairman and chief executive officer of the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, which owns the Marina Bay Sands in Singapore and is the parent company of Venetian Macao Limited which operates The Venetian Resort Hotel Casino and the Sands Expo and Convention Center. He also owns the Israeli daily newspaper Israel HaYom. Adelson, a lifelong donor and philanthropist to a variety of causes, founded with his wife's initiative the Adelson Foundation. As of July 2014, Adelson was listed by Forbes as having a fortune of $36.4 billion, and as the 10th richest person in the world.[3] Adelson is also a major contributor to Republican Party candidates, which has resulted in his gaining significant influence within the party.
Interestingly.. people have said his ancestors comes from Ukraine.. Like another was saying.. this satanic jewish elite... their arrogance and over confindence in invulnerability , have grown so much.. that they no longer care to hide their crimes.. and their Support of ISIS and Alqaeda..
It was Satanyahu who told last year that it was time to support Alqaeda...on camera.. to destroy Assad.. and here is the demon jr in person shaking hands with a wounded terrorist that return from Syria fight..
This are the same jihadist who kidnapped UN peacemakers 2 times for money. Im sure that TR1 will see that as humanitarian help.. and support Excrement like the next video.. that told in public..
"THANKS GOD FOR ISIS.."
And here is best of the last.. MCAIN with nothing less than 2 terrorist groups top leaders together.. FSA + ISIS and one Alqaeda minion too.. Take a look at that @TR1.. "the freedom fighters "criminal Rats you support .Not a single word of US Aggression and Invasion of Syria from him..
This is why Israel love ISIS.. because they are zionist paid terrorist ,hired to destroy Israel competition.
here another lovely picture of the terrorist leaders . ISIS+FSA+ALQaeda..+ MCain..
Here is another picture shows FSA former leader.. who was right next to McAIN ,that Obama calls "freedom fighters" taking pictures with ISIS too.. This picture is just more evidence of the bullshit about "moderate fighters" FSA + ISIS cooperate with each other..
So there is evidence there of at least 2 times the FSA leader (obama moderates cannibals) in meeting with ISIS leader and with people who collaborate with ISIS
Now if still @TR1 call this a conspirancy as usually Fanboys do..no matter the evidence you show them.. take a look at how MCAIN himself admit he meet with ISIS.. and have contact with them all the time.. ..
and here for variety.. Turkey army passing through an ISIS checkpoint inside Syria without firing a single bullet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsak_ApRgT8
here more evidence of turkey army cooperation with ISIS terrorist at their border.. they steal things from Syria and later smuggle them inside Turkey..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjtA3uLTOcM
The whole war against ISIS of OBAMA is a fraud.. he fully knows ISrael/Turkey and Saudi arabia and MCAIN and US retired generals give support to ISIS and give weapons to them..and he do nothing.. just look to the sides..
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Not that it really matters.. All of the islamic jihadist who took weapons are terrorist and fight for Installing Islam in Syria as the only way of Living.. similar to how it is in Saudi Arabia ,that music is illegal and womens can be stoned to death for adultery and people cut their hands if they steal.. and People beheaded in public.
But for sake of discussion ..
US welcomes ANY group who takes weapons to fight Assad.. So all their major allies in middle east created their own Groups.. Qatar created Alnusra front.. US/France and Turkey created the FSA , Saudi Arabia and Israel created ISIS. Alqaeda= created by USA too.. Each group have a different leader.. and each leader represent the interest of that nation.. so if FSA takes control of a city.. the business of that city the profits will go to the country who sponsor them.. But all this groups began to compete each other between them.. and made it more difficult to create a united front against Assad.. So what US did? After all groups failed to take damascus.. they changed tactics and re-organized the terrorist groups under the ISIS flag. FSA no longer exist.. is without a leader.. But still some groups fight without leader.. Turkey but also Israel and Jordan are the main safe zone of any terrorist to enter in Syria to fight. because they share a border with Syria.
So while Obama send jets to supposedly "fight ISIS" ,all their middle east allies ,Pentagon generals and CIA , give weapons to them and logistics.. Today All weapons that Obama give to remained FSA groups ,they pass them to ISIS. This is why ISIS is full of NATO weapons. And American drones helped ISIS with logistics when they took over of a Syrian military base in RAQA they had.
But it will be wrong to blame OBAMA only.. is the entire US Government that is Rotten , democrats and republicans.. and McAIN is the one who coordinate the military and financial help of ISIS from USA and other countries. And Israel and Saudi Arabia the ones who recruit the terrorist and smuggle them through Turkey and or through SYrian Golem Heights.
ISrael have their own interest on how Syria should be split and destroyed.. that is not exactly the same view of Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Qatar.. and that rivalry created the conflicts between terrorist groups..
in 2013 was the year that the rivalry between terrorist group exploded to the point of no return.. One Saudi Terrorist uploaded a video in youtube.. explained how he joined Alnusra..and how he had problems early in the fight to adapt to the group.. because they wanted him to suicide bomb.. and he wasn't in the mood of meeting his virgins in heaven so fast.. Then later his leader was killed and he then defected to another group.. in the end.. he told he got tired of the cannibals jihad.. because jihadist ended fighting more between them ,than ASSAD. Saudis vs Saudis.. and Lybians vs terrorist Syrians.. everyone wanted to be a leader and not many wanted to follow orders. Saudi Arabia and Qatar also split their relations when their sponsored terrorist groups began to fight each other. MAny of FSA defected to ISIS and others to Alnusra.. The MCAIN meeting is really important and a game breaking conference because it proof beyond doubt that all terrorist groups in Syria collaborate with each other and top high ranked republican was there.. shaking their hands.. and the leader of FSA in the High resolution picture before shows there shaking hands with ISIS leader.. So they cooperate with each other and Obama mocks the world by calling them "moderates" or freedom fighters.
Today apparently the discussion in Syrian forums is that the ISIS new front is collapsing and estimates are the war will end in 2015 with a total defeat to ISIS and all NATO/gulf states sponsored terrorist. . Receiving defeats left and right. not only in Syria and IRAQ.. but this have nothing to do with US bombing.. but with the help of Russia and IRAN to Syria and IRAQ. and the determination of Syrian army and IRAQ army to fight back.
Syrian Army Kills Over 30 Islamic State Militants in Northeastern Syria
Syrian government troops killed more than 30 militants from the Islamic State (IS) in the city of Deir ez-Zor in northeastern Syria.
BEIRUT, January 9 (Sputnik) — Syrian government troops have eliminated more than 30 militants from the Islamic State (IS) extremist group in the city of Deir ez-Zor in northeastern Syria, SANA news agency reported Friday.
The Syrian Army has conducted military operations in several districts of Deir ez-Zor and its suburbs preventing the rebels from capturing new territories. The fighting took place in six surrounding villages, according to the Arab newspaper Alahednews. Two IS boats were destroyed on the Euphrates river not far from the city.
Meanwhile, 18 miles away from the northern Syrian city of Aleppo, militants from the Jabhat al-Nusra Sunni terrorist group have been assaulting the cities of Noble and Al-Zahra, mostly populated by Shia Muslims, for five days. Syrian Air Forces are supporting the army in the operation.
The latest massive attack on Noble and Al-Zahra was conducted in November 2014. Hundreds of Jabhat al-Nusra militants laid siege to the cities for a week. The assault failed due to Kurdish militia helping the defenders of the city.
The civil war in Syria started in 2011. Government troops loyal to President Bashar Assad have been fighting various groups including several jihadist ones. IS began fighting the Syrian government in 2012.
According to UN data, about 15,000 people from some 80 countries have traveled to Syria to join the terrorists since the conflict broke out.
George1 wrote:Syrian Army Kills Over 30 Islamic State Militants in Northeastern Syria
Syrian government troops killed more than 30 militants from the Islamic State (IS) in the city of Deir ez-Zor in northeastern Syria.
BEIRUT, January 9 (Sputnik) — Syrian government troops have eliminated more than 30 militants from the Islamic State (IS) extremist group in the city of Deir ez-Zor in northeastern Syria, SANA news agency reported Friday.
The Syrian Army has conducted military operations in several districts of Deir ez-Zor and its suburbs preventing the rebels from capturing new territories. The fighting took place in six surrounding villages, according to the Arab newspaper Alahednews. Two IS boats were destroyed on the Euphrates river not far from the city.
Meanwhile, 18 miles away from the northern Syrian city of Aleppo, militants from the Jabhat al-Nusra Sunni terrorist group have been assaulting the cities of Noble and Al-Zahra, mostly populated by Shia Muslims, for five days. Syrian Air Forces are supporting the army in the operation.
The latest massive attack on Noble and Al-Zahra was conducted in November 2014. Hundreds of Jabhat al-Nusra militants laid siege to the cities for a week. The assault failed due to Kurdish militia helping the defenders of the city.
The civil war in Syria started in 2011. Government troops loyal to President Bashar Assad have been fighting various groups including several jihadist ones. IS began fighting the Syrian government in 2012.
According to UN data, about 15,000 people from some 80 countries have traveled to Syria to join the terrorists since the conflict broke out.
Some tenacity these nutjobs have, they just keep coming don't they?
Even the Ukronazis soon learnt what's what when their columns just started getting annihilated with no survivors; won't catch them dipping their hand into the boiling acid again any time soon. Just a shame about the areas they already brought under occupation..
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Point is - even with these brainwashed dushmans, some short diplays of overwhelming firepower that they can muster absolutely no offense against - would go a long way in demoralizing them and sapping their will to fight. This is what Syria needs more than anything; to break them by causing carnage amongst them.
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Like talibans in Afghanistan.
