Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

Dima wrote:Feb 13, 2016
One of the latest additions to Russia's Black Sea fleet, the Zeleny Dol cruise missile ship, set off for Syria's shores from the Crimean port of Sevastopol, Saturday morning.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Three-tier protection: how does the anti-aircraft missile defense at air force Hamim work?


http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2650477

ebruary 12. /TASS-DEFENCE/. When performing a combat mission on 24 November 2015 over the territory of Syria near the border with Turkey by a missile "air - air" with the F-16 aircraft of the Turkish air force was shot down by a Russian aircraft su-24M. In response, the Russian command decided to increase the safety of pilots of airgroup Air and space forces (VKS) of the armed forces when performing combat missions in Syrian airspace and significantly enhance air defense airbase Hamim.
Cover the base
According to the theory of building anti-aircraft missile defense (ZRO), in military conflicts of low intensity, it helps to create zonal (Rubizhne) anti-aircraft missile protection of the most important objects of the military economic potential and armed forces at the most probable directions of enemy air action, and military conflict of high intensity, you need to create zonal-object (Rubino-site) backup.
The equal treatment act the base Hamim is purely objective in nature (under the protection includes all infrastructure located on the base - Approx. of the author). In addition, during the construction of the equal treatment act has been combining efforts with the forces of the air defense of other forces, particularly the Navy, as well as by forces and means of antiaircraft defense of the Syrian Arab Republic. We can say that to a certain extent at the airbase Hamim observed the implementation of the territorial principle of building a missile defense.

The inclusion in the grouping of antiaircraft missile troops in Syria promising long-range air defense missile system s-400 "Triumph" has significantly improved the level close protection of the main object – airbase Hamim, to extend the range of altitudes and speeds, destroying objectives. In addition, dramatically increased the survivability and sustainability of the group in case of intensive fire and electronic countermeasures from the hypothetical enemy.
Anti-aircraft missile system s-400. Dossier
The joint air defense
According to data from open sources in November 2015 in the area of combat actions of the Russian air group in conjunction with the armed forces of Syria was deployed to joint air defence system composed of:

The Pantsir short-range "Shell-C1";

Short-range SAM system "OSA-AKM";

S-125 "Pechora-2M";

AAMS medium-range Buk-M2E;

Missile system WITH long-range s-200ve "VEGA";

S-400 "Triumph".

Moreover, to strengthen air defense system after the incident with the loss of su-24 in November 2015 it was decided to include in the joint air defense system of antiaircraft rocket complexes WITH-300ФМ "Fort-M" (missile cruiser "Moskva" and "Varyag" the areas of combat service in the coastal waters of the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean sea). Among other things, to protect the air base from aerial and space exploration in its territory deployed complexes EW "Krasuha-4".
Thus, in the short term was created grouping of forces and means, capable in case of need ensure the destruction of aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles and other flying machines of the probable air opponent, as well as conducting combat aerial reconnaissance and electronic warfare.


Three-tier defense
Moreover, it is possible to speak about a layered missile defense on the basis of groups of mixed composition SMP, army air defence, air defense forces and Navy to give her problem-solving abilities of non-strategic missile defense. The latter quality provides anti-aircraft missile system s-400 "Triumph".
In missile defence airbase Hamim can distinguish three echelons:


#Distant approaches to the defended object to provide a system of long-range – missile system s-400 "Triumph" and s s-200ve "VEGA".

#At mid-range combat with the air enemy are middle-range admc -300ФМ "Fort" and Buk-M2E.

# Short-range SAM system "OSA-AKM" and s-125 "Pechora-2M".

# And, finally, as a means of direct cover of the main object and s-400 "Triumph" should be considered short-range missile and gun ad "Pantsir-S1"

Well does not Pantsir have longer range then OSA? Or I am wrong?


BTW a welcome package for Saudis/Turks?

d_taddei2 wrote: i believe your right OSA-AKM = 15km and Pantsir = 20km, even the S-125 Pechora-2M has got more range than the OSA, at S-125M= 22km could be further with Pechora 2M upgrade.

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:I am still sceptical wrt NATO-Russia war.  I am sure though this will be used by anglosaxon criminals as pretext in next take to strangle Russia´s economy and probably also to put new sanctions against Iran not to give back those 100BLN USD.

Dima wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:I am still sceptical wrt NATO-Russia war.  I am sure though this will be used by anglosaxon criminals as pretext in next take to strangle Russia´s economy and probably also to put new sanctions against Iran not to give back those 100BLN USD.

Once Saudi enter the ring, the oil prices will start rising for sure. I want the Russians to deploy in the Persian Gulf area inside Iran to cater for Saudi and Qatar, this will definitely send a shock wave among the terrorists HQ in the region. This forward operating base will not be just for show-off, but to actually strike the terrorist HQ in Saudi and Qatar....just a single strike in any of these places will see the oil price sky rocketing. When things get bad, destroy the Saudi oil and Qatari gas facilities....its will all be good for Russia and Iran in pricing their oil & gas.

Erk wrote:Qatar is a massive US base, it's not going to happen.

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

They already DONE that today. Luckily no casualties incurred on SAA. It was a deliberate attack in support of a Qaeda offensive in Latakia.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

They already DONE that today. Luckily no casualties incurred on SAA. It was a deliberate attack in support of a Qaeda offensive in Latakia.

The wrecked a hole company of the SAA, in Kesab. The fuck you're talking about? Turkey has Syrian blood on its hands. Not going away anytime soon. And no Turkish/Turkmen blood is going to wash that.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

They already DONE that today. Luckily no casualties incurred on SAA. It was a deliberate attack in support of a Qaeda offensive in Latakia.

The wrecked a hole company of the SAA, in Kesab. The fuck you're talking about? Turkey has Syrian blood on its hands. Not going away anytime soon. And no Turkish/Turkmen blood is going to wash that.

Source about that?

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

They already DONE that today. Luckily no casualties incurred on SAA. It was a deliberate attack in support of a Qaeda offensive in Latakia.

The wrecked a hole company of the SAA, in Kesab. The fuck you're talking about? Turkey has Syrian blood on its hands. Not going away anytime soon. And no Turkish/Turkmen blood is going to wash that.

Source about that?

"Anfal" offensive in 2014. Google it. They even shot down a plane. In Syrian airspace. On top of that they cleansed Kesab from its Armenian population.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-main-opposition-leader-warns-over-military-strike-in-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=63839&NewsCatID=338

Also Tel Abyad massacre when the Turks fired on SAA positions in 2012.

Militarov wrote:JebBush: "Russia isn't fighting ISIS, it's fighting our team, our guys on the ground."

I am not sure if he is aware what he said...

"This is very disturbing. In fact, Turkey under the guise of the fight against kurumi, begins hostilities against a sovereign state, which is Syria, against the government troops. It's unsettling, to involve new countries on the one side and the other side. Need urgent intervention of the security Council, because if Turkey will provoke a major conflict, we will not find anyone," said djabarov "Russian news service". Djabarov stressed that the intervention in the conflict Saudi Arabia is also extremely dangerous. "A very dangerous scenario, because if the Saudis will try to get involved in the fighting. In Yemen they are stuck and there is nothing I can not solve. What do they expect again to help big brother, I mean the Americans? Again attempts to hide behind NATO, like Turkey, to provoke a conflict. The statement of the foreign Minister that it was necessary to overthrow by force the legitimate President of Syria, is disturbing. Because immediately kicks in Iran, other middle East countries", – said the Senator.
He explained that a full-scale conflict in the region may not be favorable, none of the major States.
"If Saudi Arabia tries to solve its oil problems, on the background of the conflict has raised the price of oil is even worse, everybody will have forgotten where you started, will start large-scale in the middle East, and neither we nor the Americans nor Western Europe", – concluded djabarov.
Earlier this week the newspaper reported that the direct intervention of the Turkish armed forces in fighting the Syrian army and militants near Aleppo could lead to direct confrontation between Russia and Turkey.

On the eve of the Prime Minister of Turkey promised to "protect the heroic Aleppo". Before that, the Lebanese TV channel "al-Mayadin" reported that the Syrian government army comes on militants in Aleppo province in the North, the division reached the outskirts of the city of Idlib.

It was prepared to send its troops to participate in ground operations in Syria, Saudi Arabia said last week. The Saudis offered to coordinate efforts with Turkey. In the U.S., stated that while unable to support a possible ground operation in Saudi Arabia and Turkey on Syrian territory.

Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said that such actions would be perceived as aggression, and promised "to send the invaders home in coffins".

Militarov wrote:JebBush: "Russia isn't fighting ISIS, it's fighting our team, our guys on the ground."

I am not sure if he is aware what he said...

VKS RF act to protect the national interests, as in Syria, there are thousands of "fighters who are ready at any moment to break and go to organize terrorist attacks in Russia", said the Prime Minister

MOSCOW, February 14. /TASS/. Russia will decide on military action in Syria, based on their national interests, agreements with Damascus and depending on the situation. This was stated by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in interview to TV channel Euronews.
The Prime Minister reminded that VKS the Russian Federation operating in Syria, first of all, to protect national interests, because in this country there are thousands of "fighters who are ready at any moment to break and go to organize terrorist attacks in Russia"; second, on the basis of an application of the SAR President Bashar al-Assad.

"So we will make decisions about the military component, taking into account these two factors and, of course, depending on how things develop," - said Medvedev, answering the question of what military action Moscow is ready to take in order to stop the escalation of the conflict in Syria.
Putin called the main current task is "to agree to start negotiations between all parties of the Syrian conflict, and to define terrorist groups, because around this are endless debates: who is good and who is bad." "In my opinion, it's completely understandable, everything else is from the evil one", - said Medvedev.

On the ground operations in Syria
The Prime Minister again urged other parties not to "scare" opportunity to introduce ground troops into Syria. "It is in vain the word, vain, he said," Medvedev commented on the statement by U.S. Secretary of state John Kerry that if Russia and Iran will not help, the coalition is ready to conduct a ground operation.

He said if Washington "wants to obtain long-term war, of course, you can arrange and ground operations, and everything else." "But don't need to scare anyone, we need to agree in the way in which they had conversation with Minister Lavrov, not to say that if something goes not according to this scenario, we, along with other Arab countries will carry out a ground operation", - said Medvedev. "No one is interested in a new war, but a ground operation is complete, a long war. Here we must proceed from this", - concluded the head of the Russian government.

The ceasefire must be total for all

Russia insists on the need to adopt a uniform and common decision about the moment of the cessation of hostilities in Syria, otherwise it threatens to lead to the escalation of the conflict, stressed Dmitry Medvedev.

"The cessation of those or other military operations must be dependent on how quickly they will lay down their arms by all parties involved", he said, calling the situation dangerous, "when someone stops to do anything and the other begins to develop their military successes".
"It just leads to escalation of the conflict. That is why there should be a single overall decision about the time of cessation of hostilities", - said Medvedev, adding that "it is necessary to aspire".
The Prime Minister explained that Russia will act in accordance with their agreements with the President of Syria Bashar al-Assad, and "in the framework of the agreements that we are trying to achieve with other States, including with our partners in the negotiations" - the United States and other countries.

Medvedev reminded that on 4 February the Russian Federation has initiated a global ceasefire in Syria. "Our American colleagues hesitated for some time, various negotiations were to resolve the constant conflict in positions between the state Department and the Department of defense of the United States of America, appealed to (the US President) Barack Obama, but it seems like they have agreed", - said the Russian Prime Minister. He expressed the hope that "this process will go faster".
"This would take the Russian side. But the final decision is, of course, will be our President (Vladimir Putin) because he is the Supreme commander of the Armed forces", - concluded Medvedev.

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

ultron wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
the moment turks fire first shell/bomb/missile into Latakia AB turkey becomes glass parking lot.

They already DONE that today. Luckily no casualties incurred on SAA. It was a deliberate attack in support of a Qaeda offensive in Latakia.

The wrecked a hole company of the SAA, in Kesab. The fuck you're talking about? Turkey has Syrian blood on its hands. Not going away anytime soon. And no Turkish/Turkmen blood is going to wash that.

Learn to read ultron you inbred retard, I said Latakia AB as in ''Air Base'' not Latakia province.

Stop wasting everyone's time you degenerate moron.