Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

ultron wrote:Reports of a Russian jet downed near Homs. Waiting for more info.

Militarov wrote:Considering this is the original source of the news... i laugh at it

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/944702

Vann7 wrote:Now people see why Russia needs its Armata?

T-90 is not good enough. I dont care if it is better or worse than any NATO tank.
or that is cheaper . if is not good enough ,then is not good enough. as simple as that. Losing
soldiers lives could be the end result for not good enough hardware. Russia army needs a tank that can intercept any TOW or anti tank missile. and not give it a chance to even reach the tank. if Russia allow TOW missiles to hit their tanks they are doing something wrong. This pose a major risk for Russian army soldiers life and even if it doesn't penetrate the tank it can destroy vital sensors and equipment in the exterior of the tank. Obviously the over hyped Shtora defense of T-90 are not working. This is the second time that fails to activate to cloud the tank,,and there are no repair shops near. what a nice "Cease of Fire" that Russia cooked with their American "partners" .

i dont know what Russia is lately doing in Syria ,but leaving their tanks in the open exposed
for terrorist to practice shooting and without any soldier watching for any possible incoming fire ,is inexcusable. All those TOW missiles produce a lot of noise when launched , and if their shtora defenses doesn't work they at least need to be careful where they station their tanks .Then  Use terrain for cover .

Russia needs to take more seriously the war in Syria and the security of their tanks ,planes and soldiers. Putin should stop trusting their in their Americans partners, neither Them or Turkey will stop its aggression on Syria until they see it disbanded like Lybia.

Russia lost a pilot in latakia for trusting in Turkey and i hope Russia and mr Putin , no longer lower its guard against US ,Turkey or any one seeking to disband the country.

Militarov wrote:http://rs-lat.sputniknews.com/svet/20160510/1105581730/Teroristi-tenk-Sirija.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F566ABZLijV&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=bnwY&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

Serbian Sputnik claims it was "destroyed"

calm wrote:He is mad at Russia
But it's interesting to hear about reducing of forces(hezbollah, Iran, Iraq) and blaming it on Russia(savig their as*** for 6 months)   , and defending of the cities like before.

Russia equivocates in Syria, Iran is confused and al-Qaeda takes the initiative
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2016/05/11/russia-equivocates-in-syria-iran-is-confused-and-al-qaeda-takes-the-initiative/

sepheronx wrote:So another soldier killed? 7 total now?
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160511/1039462288/syria-homs-russia-combat.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FYt7IK8k2tx&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=bnNq&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

sepheronx wrote:So another soldier killed? 7 total now?
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160511/1039462288/syria-homs-russia-combat.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FYt7IK8k2tx&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=bnNq&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

PapaDragon wrote:
Anyone care to speculate why RU Military is sending Raptor patrol boats to Syria?

Seems a bit out of the left field to me but I'm not really mid-east tactics expert.

PapaDragon wrote:I don’t think that folks in Latakia would have problem with it. One way or another they are covered.

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Anyone care to speculate why RU Military is sending Raptor patrol boats to Syria?

Seems a bit out of the left field to me but I'm not really mid-east tactics expert.

Too small to be of any "strategic" value. Most likely just to patrol around naval facilities and transport staff and small cargo to ships that cant get into docks.

Another Russian soldier killed in Homs province by rebels fire. At least 21 Iranian soldiers were killed in S. Aleppo where Russian are refusing to help loyalists defend territory. There was also a significant amount of casualties among the Syrian army during the Khan Thuman battle. At least 2 Syrian soldiers were captured and 1 has been executed. At least 5 more(most likely Iraqis paramilitary) captured as well with their fate unknown.

Growing discontent and tension between Iran & Russia where they don't agree on objectives & strategies.

MOSCOW, may 11. /TASS/. Grouping of the international terrorist organization "Dzhebhat an-Nusra" (banned in Russia) continue fighting aimed at disrupting the "regime of silence" in Syria, their ranks replenished by militants, in addition arrive ammunition filled with toxic substances. This was reported in the newsletter of the Center for conciliation of the warring parties in the Syrian Arab Republic published on the website of the Ministry of defense of the Russian Federation.

"Received the reconciliation Centre from the local people information, from the territory of Turkey in the town of Kafr Hamra arrived more than 100 terrorist groups "Dzhebhat an-Nusra". In addition, from the province of Idlib controlled by the terrorists "Dzhebhat an-Nusra" the territory North of Aleppo arrived a few trucks loaded with improvised munitions filled with toxic substances based on chlorine," - noted in the Bulletin.
During the day in the province of Aleppo district of Ashrafieh, controlled by terrorists "Dzhebhat an-Nusra", three times opened fire from jet systems of volley fire on the quarter of Sheikh Maqsood, the report said. "Wounded 6 civilians, including 1 child. During the day from the villages Muheim-Handout and Kritan with mortars and artillery shelled five times the settlement Kondrat", - informs the Center.
As stated earlier, the official representative of Russian foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, in Syria and Iraq currently growing threat of chemical terrorism. According to her, the Russian foreign Ministry has regularly stated that the acquisition by non-state actors military-chemical potential, including of foreign origin, not just extremely dangerous, but also able to have an increasingly destabilizing effect throughout the middle East region. In turn, Russia's permanent representative to the UN Vitaly Churkin noted that Russia is of particular concern reports about the militants use curb toxic substances ammunition.


Подробнее на ТАСС:
http://tass.ru/politika/3274187

PapaDragon wrote:

..........Identified as Anton Yerygin, the serviceman died of heavy injuries sustained during an insurgent attack in the Syrian province of Homs.

Yerygin was reportedly on duty, escorting Russia's Hmeymim reconciliation center vehicles, when the convoy was shelled by terrorists earlier this week. The soldier was rushed to a Russian military hospital.

"The soldier had been transported to a hospital where Russian mlitary doctors fought for his life for two days, but failed to save him," a spokesman for Hmeymim base said on Wednesday................

Slava mu.

PapaDragon wrote:
These negotiation tours are way too public to be safe. They better wrap this part soon and then either stick with Hmeim and Tartus or go full Rolling Thunder with the VKS. Just stay out of the countryside.

Russia already secured all it's geopolitical and military interests in Syria (Air/Naval base, hydrocarbon route control, diplomacy, weapons testing, etc) so either move forward with heavy approach or, if Syrians are that tired of having a country, help detach Latakia/Damascus state from the rest of the corpse, sit back, do your thing and enjoy the show next door.
I don’t think that folks in Latakia would have problem with it. One way or another they are covered.  

Either way stick with what you know, nobody wants them to repeat Operation Iraqi Freedom. We all know how that went.

Karl Haushofer wrote:Do you think the discontent between Russia and Iran is that Iran wants a more hardliner stance and crush the rebels while Russia wants to adhere the ceasefire deal with Russia's Western partners?

ultron wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:Do you think the discontent between Russia and Iran is that Iran wants a more hardliner stance and crush the rebels while Russia wants to adhere the ceasefire deal with Russia's Western partners?

It don't matter. Obama is leaving office in a few months and all hell will break loose.