Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

The Russian president will not hesitate to launch a war against Turkey, or even the US, in case Ankara and Riyadh send their infantry troops to Syria, a Russian senior diplomat told Raialyoum newspaper. I do Know President Putin; he will not let Syria duplicate the Afghani sample, he added. His remarks were published in the context of an article which stressed that the hot positions of confrontation in the Syrian field are the eastern province of Raqqa and Aazaz which lies in Aleppo northern countryside. The article noted that the Syrian troops which are heading towards Raqqa aim at anticipating any Saudi-Turkish intervention, which will lead to a direct confrontation, and that the Russia will certainly support the Syrian army in such a case. The escalating conflict in Syria may destroy empires and kingdoms and may claim the souls of millions of people, according to the article which pointed out the Russian military will resort to non-traditional weaponry if its bases in Syria get bombarded. Finally, the article mentioned that “Israel” will boldly side with the Saudi-Turkish alliance as the handshake between the Zionist security minister Moshe Yaalon and the former Saudi intelligence chief in Munich few days ago revealed.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/29249/

zenmonk wrote:Surface-to-air missiles in Syria is going to change the balance of power on the ground. It will allow the moderate opposition to be able to neutralize the helicopters and aircraft that are dropping chemicals and have been carpet-bombing them, just like surface-to-air missiles in Afghanistan were able to change the balance of power there. How the Russians  see it and what are the counter tactics the Russians likely to adopt to neutralise it?  Hope i may have good response from you. Thanks, Zen.

zenmonk wrote:Saudi Arabia seems to be so desperate to topple Syrian President Assad that it is prepared to supply surface-to-air missiles to Islamist Syrian militants to achieve the purpose; however, Russian aircraft will be the actual target. How the Russian Air force going to clear this threat?

Werewolf wrote:I see bigger influx of trolls participating in masturbation amongst themselfs.

No wonder i and others post less and less.

kvs wrote:

Werewolf wrote:I see bigger influx of trolls participating in masturbation amongst themselfs.

No wonder i and others post less and less.

Indeed.  This "Stinger" BS has been trotted out before to "prove" how Russia will fail.  

If the Saudis were to provide the "rebels" (aka head-chopping, goat-f*cking, Wahabbi freaks)
with more serious SA systems, then Russian air assets in Syria could easily take them out.   The Saudis have
nothing like the S-400.

zenmonk wrote:Saudi Arabia seems to be so desperate to topple Syrian President Assad that it is prepared to supply surface-to-air missiles to Islamist Syrian militants to achieve the purpose; however, Russian aircraft will be the actual target. How the Russian Air force going to clear this threat?

auslander wrote:My 'ignore' button is getting a workout lately. There's only a couple of them but they've got multiple accounts. They're also easy to spot, as in sore thumb.

Militarov wrote:

auslander wrote:My 'ignore' button is getting a workout lately. There's only a couple of them but they've got multiple accounts. They're also easy to spot, as in sore thumb.

I remember when i was part of staff on one Serbian military forum, ppl with same IP adress would get banned and allowed to use 1 account. I actually have 2 accounts here too, but one was never used, i forgot i made account back in 2012. and never posted with it. But oh well.

JohninMK wrote:Arming an enemy with proper SAMs can be a two edged sword that can come back to bite.

I have little doubt that the Russians have quietly mentioned both to the Saudis the effect of giving the flip-flops the same facilities as well as to the US about, how shall we say it, accidental use on the wrong target.

Vann7 wrote:The real danger of Saudis supplying more advanced land to air missiles to Terrorist
is not the missiles themselves.. but that NATO could use its AWACS or their radars in Turkey to guide the missiles toward Russian planes.  means terrorist dont need any radar to track the plane. the whole job can be done from Turkey territory or from Awacs planes ,and only fired from Syria. SO it cannot be underestimated the danger.  The missiles could be advanced ones ,custom ones designed by NATO with long range that can reach altitudes manpad cant.

Russia counter electronics on their combat planes can counter missiles.. but their bombers
like the one shutdown do not have native counter electronics.

there was unconfirmed claims in pro Syrian social media  that the US coalition provided ISIS with trucks armed with sidewinders.  So it will be the same missiles an F-16s /F-22 use.. just launched from a truck. that could be dangerous.. and hopefully Russia have a plan. Needs to warn americans that if they find evidence one of their planes was shot down by a half a million dollar missile that only them can have or any of its allies that they control  ,that it will be their end . and they will retaliate their planes.

zenmonk wrote:Surface-to-air missiles in Syria is going to change the balance of power on the ground. It will allow the moderate opposition to be able to neutralize the helicopters and aircraft that are dropping chemicals and have been carpet-bombing them, just like surface-to-air missiles in Afghanistan were able to change the balance of power there. How the Russians  see it and what are the counter tactics the Russians likely to adopt to neutralise it?  Hope i may have good response from you. Thanks, Zen.