Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.

They now claim how they killed 5 Russians.

https://a3maqagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rk17032016.jpg?w=700 - another body (so they claim)

PapaDragon wrote:
Some folks have been floating idea that VKS pullout had something to do with protecting aircraft from coming sandstorm season.

This sounds pretty out there to me (flat out stupid to be more precise) but I would still like to ask if there could be something to it?

Just want to cover all the bases...

ultron wrote:I thought Putin said no Russian ground forces in action in Syria.

...............Russia has said repeatedly that it must be the Syrian people who decide for themselves what government they want. This is Iranian policy too. But Putin cannot count on the Saudi-supported Syrian opposition arriving at an agreement with Assad in Geneva — though he might hope this transpires. It is more likely he is relying on a Plan B.

One aspect of the recent cessation of hostilities that has escaped much attention is how local ceasefires during this period of quiet have been brokered by Russian army officers — usually quite senior officers. Their efforts have been met with striking successes. More than 40 such ceasefires have been secured. Perhaps, if the Geneva process fails, we shall see a bottom-up process take over instead.

On the basis of these agreements, some of which have been negotiated by the United Nations and others by the Syrian government, local elections will eventually be held. Then regional. Then parliamentary. The constitution will be revised. And finally, presidential elections will be held under international supervision. In short, Syrians — both at home and in exile — would ultimately decide on their governance..............

Militarov wrote:
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Russia's adventure in #Syria cost $465m - #Putin. Reference: U.S. spends ~$500m yearly on military marching bands

https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/710491335694880768

...So it was less than half the projected cost, which was originally projected to cost $1 billion. Very pleasing news, but it should surprise no one considering FAB-250's cost less than $5,000 a piece (something in the range of $4,700-4,800 a pop).

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:I thought Putin said no Russian ground forces in action in Syria.

SOF, advisors and other branches are not really "ground force", ground force is when you send whole brigade, division, batallion or whatever into field to fight.

ultron wrote:

Militarov wrote:

ultron wrote:I thought Putin said no Russian ground forces in action in Syria.

SOF, advisors and other branches are not really "ground force", ground force is when you send whole brigade, division, batallion or whatever into field to fight.

There are artillery units in action. How is that not ground force?

Militarov wrote:

Europeans will mostly get the joke

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:This one is for KoTeMoRe to dissect:

PN19K5 Night vision sight from NPZ. Nice little things the Syrians are getting with their 74M's. Something however is even more funny, guy's wearing Iranian made boots seen mostly with the Al Nujaba, Iraqi Hezbullah crowd.

BTW I want to hear your opinion about Ankara hosting Al Qaeda flag waving conferences (in a building named after Ataturk). I mean how far gone is Turkish society that the only credible secular force left is the Kurds who are under military siege? Is there any secular ethnic Turkish force left, or are they all castrated eunuchs who won't dare challenge Wahabbist/Salafist savagery?

Like I said, how far gone is Turkish society? In another thread you said Konya, Turkey looks like Raqqa without the bombs, would you be so kind to please elaborate further?

franco wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.

They now claim how they killed 5 Russians.

https://a3maqagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rk17032016.jpg?w=700 - another body (so they claim)

5 Russians? FAC?

Wasn't there reports of Russians / Slavic volunteers / mercenaries fighting in Syria?

franco wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.

They now claim how they killed 5 Russians.

https://a3maqagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rk17032016.jpg?w=700 - another body (so they claim)

5 Russians? FAC?

Wasn't there reports of Russians / Slavic volunteers / mercenaries fighting in Syria?

ultron wrote:

franco wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.

They now claim how they killed 5 Russians.

https://a3maqagency.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rk17032016.jpg?w=700 - another body (so they claim)

5 Russians? FAC?

Wasn't there reports of Russians / Slavic volunteers / mercenaries fighting in Syria?

Who would pay for them? Syria has no money after years of devastating war.

JohninMK wrote:Claimed to be a GRU party in Syria, photos from a personal device, from IS apparently. Bit strange.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Claimed to be a GRU party in Syria, photos from a personal device, from IS apparently. Bit strange.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

The guy who they show dead could be possibly the telnyashka wearing man, seen wearing a gorka next (2nd & 3rd pictures). Otherwise the dead guy with the gorka could be a Russian reporter who looked close to the body.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

They haven't killed 5 of them. I'm thinking only one and the dead they shown, could well be a Syrian guy.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Claimed to be a GRU party in Syria, photos from a personal device, from IS apparently. Bit strange.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

The guy who they show dead could be possibly the telnyashka wearing man, seen wearing a gorka next (2nd & 3rd pictures). Otherwise the dead guy with the gorka could be a Russian reporter who looked close to the body.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

They haven't killed 5 of them. I'm thinking only one and the dead they shown, could well be a Syrian guy.

Yeah ISIS are known peddlers of black propaganda, apparently some of the gear is of the older variety, and it's not unheard of for Russian MOD to give the SAA some of it's older and even unwanted stuff, such as the GAZ-66's representing the former and the Iveco trucks representing the latter.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:
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The guy who they show dead could be possibly the telnyashka wearing man, seen wearing a gorka next (2nd & 3rd pictures). Otherwise the dead guy with the gorka could be a Russian reporter who looked close to the body.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

They haven't killed 5 of them. I'm thinking only one and the dead they shown, could well be a Syrian guy.