Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:The most interesting is the Mil mi 8. It is being claimed the Mil was grounded since December 2015.

Not by MO, but by Jane's...

Jane's wrote:Airbus Defence and Space satellite imagery shows there were three Mi-24/35s and one Mi-8/17 at Tiyas Air Base on 31 March. The Mi-8/17 has not moved since at least December 2015, suggesting it is a non-operational Syrian aircraft.

No comment...

So this derelict Mil Mi 8 has magically moved in 3 days...lemme get my Property Act for the Golden Gate, I sell it cheap.

That MiG-25 was there also since 2014.

Indeed. So there's more and more details that bother me. One of them is the Damage location. It's all around the helicopters. It looks like someone doesn't understand strike patterns out of artillery when using Photoshop.

As i said above, fire is way too concentrated aka impossible, especially for MLRS.

Also one single missile/shell aimed to hit solo MiG-25 and actually hits it? What are the odds of that happening? Impossible.

To be completely honest, I would give "The World" this kind of "victories" if that makes them feel better.


Periodically broadcast some news about "Russian setbacks" and "heavy losses", to counter the blood loss and neural bleeding they suffer due to Russian actions around the world.


Naturally, I would double the hurt on "moderates" and "opposition" at the same time.


Remember Ukraine and "destroyed Russian Army columns/convoys/divisions/10 000 KIAs"?

KoTeMoRe wrote:The most interesting is the Mil mi 8. It is being claimed the Mil was grounded since December 2015.

Not by MO, but by Jane's...

Jane's wrote:Airbus Defence and Space satellite imagery shows there were three Mi-24/35s and one Mi-8/17 at Tiyas Air Base on 31 March. The Mi-8/17 has not moved since at least December 2015, suggesting it is a non-operational Syrian aircraft.

No comment...

So this derelict Mil Mi 8 has magically moved in 3 days...lemme get my Property Act for the Golden Gate, I sell it cheap.

It also only seems to have 4 rotor blades fitted.

JohninMK wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:The most interesting is the Mil mi 8. It is being claimed the Mil was grounded since December 2015.

Not by MO, but by Jane's...

Jane's wrote:Airbus Defence and Space satellite imagery shows there were three Mi-24/35s and one Mi-8/17 at Tiyas Air Base on 31 March. The Mi-8/17 has not moved since at least December 2015, suggesting it is a non-operational Syrian aircraft.

No comment...

So this derelict Mil Mi 8 has magically moved in 3 days...lemme get my Property Act for the Golden Gate, I sell it cheap.

It also only seems to have 4 rotor blades fitted.

That too.

After IG shelled the base, it explodes a reservoir with fuel. The fire caught ~20 trucks and after that threw over the helicopters...
The fire-trucks can not help, because in the same time the base is under shelling.....it's all...

The photos are 100% real

Solncepek wrote:After IG shelled the base, it explodes a reservoir with fuel. The fire caught ~20 trucks and after that threw over the helicopters...
The fire-trucks can not help, because in the same time the base is under shelling.....it's all...

The photos are 100% real

Yes a fire truck drove around burning things 200m away, sure Hollywood magical Logic. Lol man try harder...

Mortar attack? Which mortar puts the IS positions out of the 5km range...Jesus do you even military?

Solncepek wrote:After IG shelled the base, it explodes a reservoir with fuel. The fire caught ~20 trucks and after that threw over the helicopters...
The fire-trucks can not help, because in the same time the base is under shelling.....it's all...

The photos are 100% real

Fire jumped 100m precisely on helicopters? How if i may ask? Magic?

Someone ban this guy already. We don't need a pro-Daesh disinformation warrior on the Syria thread. We have enough of them already.

He's not Pro-ISIS, it's the crybaby "Puten did it" team. Ultron and C° avatar.

KoTeMoRe wrote:He's not Pro-ISIS, it's the crybaby "Puten did it" team. Ultron and C° avatar.

He might not be pro-ISIS, but he certainly becomes pro-disinformation the moment he illogically throws their wild claims around with no objectivity on his part.

So old Syrian aircraft damaged long ago. Figured as much. If it were anything else MSM would be having collective orgasm.

PapaDragon wrote:
So old Syrian aircraft damaged long ago. Figured as much. If it were anything else MSM would be having collective orgasm.

We don't know...I'm hearing sh*t like Indirect fire doesn't need much to cause damage and a chain reaction...yes it does, because the closest ISIS has been from T4 was 5 km....Hitting within that range without accurate coordinates is non-sense. It's not you pull a gun string again and again, the guys on the base would lock on you (especially if Russians) within the first Salvo.

It's like people who are notorious for their world grade accuracy, not, became laser accurate for this "event". It's amazing.

Militarov wrote:

Solncepek wrote:After IG shelled the base, it explodes a reservoir with fuel. The fire caught ~20 trucks and after that threw over the helicopters...
The fire-trucks can not help, because in the same time the base is under shelling.....it's all...

The photos are 100% real

Fire jumped 100m precisely on helicopters? How if i may ask? Magic?

Yup, and it avoided all the scrub bushes in the area. A very ecological fire.

Russia killed 28,000 militants in Syria, third of all ISIS forces – Russian deputy security chief

https://www.rt.com/news/344214-russia-killed-isis-militants/

PapaDragon wrote:
Russia killed 28,000 militants in Syria, third of all ISIS forces – Russian deputy security chief

https://www.rt.com/news/344214-russia-killed-isis-militants/

Impossible to asses. In In almost 9 months of work If they're reached 20K (all groups) would be a very impressive number.

Didn't ISIS blame fire for this not barrage of MLRS? Idk if pictures are legit, but some say that ammo and helicopters were kept too close. I will rather think there was fire and some damage and someone made this sattelity picture just to suit their narrative hence RUSSIAN BASE DESTROYED, unable to comply Russia hiding losses in progress.

Mhh we don't know, it's not something we can asses. My issue stands with how this is being presented and how it's going through. This is Hollywoodian in every sense.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Russia killed 28,000 militants in Syria, third of all ISIS forces – Russian deputy security chief

https://www.rt.com/news/344214-russia-killed-isis-militants/

Impossible to asses. In In almost 9 months of work If they're reached 20K (all groups) would be a very impressive number.

20K people defending their country... (Westerners be like) its good work indeed, There's been over 10,000 sorties I'm sure the 28K is right.

And the #Russian Zero hour has just began, dozens airstikes conducted over #Aleppo & #Idleb CS.

https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/735220342776598528

Syrian express last week. Unusual pictures. The southbound ship is high in the water, the northbound is low.

hmm

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/24/russian-attack-helicopters-destroyed-in-syria-us-officials-say-accident-to-blame.html

Russian attack helicopters destroyed in Syria; US officials say 'accident' to blame

"The Russian military suffered a setback in Syria when fires destroyed four Mi-24 attack helicopters last week, but U.S. officials tell Fox News the intelligence community believes it was an "accident," not an Islamic State terror attack."

"The Stratfor analysis is wrong," one U.S. official told Fox News. Another official said, "There is no indication that an ISIS attack took place.""


So now the US gov't is saying there was no attack. But, if it was an fire caused by an accident, than how do you explain the damage to the MiG-25, barring the possibility that the photos are stratfor fakes?

'nuff said.

We will see soon enough if it's true or not

Zivo wrote:hmm

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/24/russian-attack-helicopters-destroyed-in-syria-us-officials-say-accident-to-blame.html

Russian attack helicopters destroyed in Syria; US officials say 'accident' to blame

"The Russian military suffered a setback in Syria when fires destroyed four Mi-24 attack helicopters last week, but U.S. officials tell Fox News the intelligence community believes it was an "accident," not an Islamic State terror attack."

"The Stratfor analysis is wrong," one U.S. official told Fox News. Another official said, "There is no indication that an ISIS attack took place.""


So now the US gov't is saying there was no attack. But, if it was an fire caused by an accident, than how do you explain the damage to the MiG-25, barring the possibility that the photos are stratfor fakes?

Genie is out of the bottle now. What the US says is irrelevant. They pushed this info 'leak' through Stratfor as they had with other such semi-official mouthpieces. bellingcat, former Ambassadors, RUSI. It's part of the same group 'gossip' as always.


One thing is certain.

This is above ISIS capabilities other than witnessing.

When you look back again there's a couple of things missing.

1. Impacts. Mortars that ISIS has big issues with would be fired either NW of the base from flat terrain, or IRAM's would be fired from the hilltops further N/NW/W. That makes hitting anything accurately almost impossible.
2. This opens the hypothesis of an ATGM attack But that again would have ISIS within the 3 km range of the outer ring. purportedly 10thof May satellite image. Mig 25 is not Visible.
3. Oryxblog 27 June 2015:

Check the Helicopter pad...Check the area.

4. Based on DETAILED images from 2015 (especially L39 pack), look at the actual distance between the helicopters. There's about 20 to 30m between the helicopters. We know from Ukrainian footage, that Grads hitting will not cause a fire for sure, nor their shrapnel would pepper 100m around. The helicopters were NEVER nearby fuel trucks. NEVER. Even the Syrians wouldn't do that. And as for ammo. Impact marks aren't visible anyway near the helicopters.

This MIG 25 has been there for more than one year... Yet, this isn't visible on that map