Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #12

Russian Advisor with the SAA presumubly in EG




Spetznas bodyguards with gen. Suheil



And medal awards for one of the Tiger detachments

PapaDragon wrote:

This does leave one question about Strelkov: what the fuck was that guy thinking shooting his mouth off like that about "300 dead soldiers"?

I am starting to dislike that clown quite a bit. Big ego and tendency to go rouge, off-script and jeopardize the execution of the game plan.

This is Strelkov's post (google translate).

https://vk.com/igoristrelkov?w=wall347260249_256902

For losses in Syria.

Reports of losses in the defeat of the battle group "Wagner" come in a variety of ways. But there is one tendency - they are constantly changing in the direction of increase.
At the moment it is clear that hundreds of dead and wounded are real. A few hundred.
In the rest - raznogolositsa. But the last figure ("not final", as reported) generally looks "beyond the bounds." Allegedly - for as many as 600 (644, to be more precise, - and this only killed). Perhaps - this is "deza" (although it came exactly from Syria). Earlier, the figures in 215-217 "200х" sounded ... And they also say that "not definitively" - many people are still missing.
I do not quite understand where such losses come from, since the entire destroyed convoy consisted of more than 500 people.
But also to exclude the likelihood of such losses, too, can not be excluded, because the fighting continues and the bridgehead, which (for a long time I've known since December) was captured on the eastern bank of the Euphrates and was controlled by the Wagnerites, is now virtually eliminated with massive support from US artillery and aviation. Perhaps, in addition to this column, it went to other divisions.
More and more information that "distribution" along with the mercenaries fell and some unit of the Special Operations Service of the Ministry of Defense (MTR).
In general, it is clear only that with such losses "garbage under the carpet" (and for the Kremlin strategists all people are garbage) will fail completely, albeit with a delay, but the scale of the catastrophe will be known in all its details.

I read it almost as soon as he made this post and I also read some of his comments below. It seems to me that he, just like us, also doesn't have a clue about what actually happened. He was saying he doesn't understand where these losses came from, but also can't exclude the possibility of these losses.

Then, not long afterwards. His name appeared everywhere where these stories are circulated.

Strelkov was not wise to give out such careless post. Especially he didn't really know anything. But he chose to vent his personal anger and nagging through such a serious matter.

The plus side is that. This event, even the fake versions, has made pro western politicians life harder. People are like: "Look, your 'western partner' killed 600 Russians, what are you going to say about it? How is this 'partnership' even possible?" Some of the well known ones, especially the one running election campaign in the US, has gone quiet.

Originating from RT Arabic. Crazy implications if true but understandable given the way it has started to go for their proxies. Not seen it elsewhere.


Within Syria
‏ @WithinSyriaBlog
53m53 minutes ago

Within Syria Retweeted RTarabic_Breaking

UK and US just agreed that Russia has to stop the Syrian Army attack in East Ghouta ... seriously this is not a joke


Bit of a problem given the RuAF is pretty much all the heavy support being given


Elijah J. Magnier
‏ @ejmalrai
2h2 hours ago

Elijah J. Magnier Retweeted Elijah J. Magnier

The Ghouta military ops is exclusively under the Syrian Army command and control on the ground. There are coordination officers from allies but no allies forces on the ground fighting with #SAA, an indication of the Syrian Army rebuild & strength.

JohninMK wrote:Originating from RT Arabic. Crazy implications if true but understandable given the way it has started to go for their proxies. Not seen it elsewhere.


Within Syria
‏ @WithinSyriaBlog
53m53 minutes ago

Within Syria Retweeted RTarabic_Breaking

UK and US just agreed that Russia has to stop the Syrian Army attack in East Ghouta ... seriously this is not a joke


Bit of a problem given the RuAF is pretty much all the heavy support being given


Elijah J. Magnier
‏ @ejmalrai
2h2 hours ago

Elijah J. Magnier Retweeted Elijah J. Magnier

The Ghouta military ops is exclusively under the Syrian Army command and control on the ground. There are coordination officers from allies but no allies forces on the ground fighting with #SAA, an indication of the Syrian Army rebuild & strength.

This very positive, all the hard is paying off.

Anyone remembers Aleppo?

NATO demanded a cease of fire and a free passage for the Good terrorist to IDLIB.
Which Russia agree for the sake of ending the suffering of civilians. The interesting part
is that there were many Terrorist with face covered.. and windows of the buses evacuating them
covered.. So there was a LOT of secrecy of the identity of this "Freedom fighters". But it turn out
that there was African Black American posing as "journalist" inside the pocked who were inside Aleppo
and was reporting to CNN.. just imagine that.  A CIA Thug was caught inside Aleppo..

So it will not be surprising in any way ,that Hundreds if not thousands of NATO special forces ,mainly
US,UK and France..that is , American-European born muslims ,private military contractors of NATO,being the intermediaries between NATO and the Terrorist ,who have been in Ghouta since 2012 ,
and leading the attacks on Damascus and bombing Russia embassy..

So it will be a real scandal of major proportions.. If Russia special forces capture hundreds of American special
forces in Ghouta  , because they can interrogate the Americans or European there, and it could surface , that NATO
was behind the bombing of civilians in damascus from the terrorist strong hold ,providing GPS logistic to target the
Russian Embassy and the entire city. SO Russia will have a LOT of interest to NOT allow any terrorist to escape from
Ghouta , and negotiate the release of their soldiers , with US and its coalition abandoning Syria.

BREAKING: Russian transport plane crashes in Khmeimim, Syria – MoD

- 26 passengers & 6 crew dead

https://www.rt.com/news/420608-russian-plane-crashed-syria/

So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

What's wrong with Russian aviation industry? Almost every time I read about a plane crashing it is a Russian plane.

Karl Haushofer wrote:What's wrong with Russian aviation industry? Almost every time I read about a plane crashing it is a Russian plane.

Probably quality controls are not as good as in the western civilizations.. I have read lots of stories
of the poor conditions of Russia military facilities.. Something as simple like Rats ,planes parked in open Air ,
can damage  planes electrical cables. Also the bad weather recently in all Europe and Russia ,could damage planes , freeze parts.. etc...

Definitively Russia what is doing for quality controls is not enough.. I have yet to see a news of an AMerican transport plane crashing ..and Russia got 2 in a period of one year .. or so. SO it should be very scary to have to board
one of those planes.. this is possibly the #3 cargo plane falling for Russia since Syrian conflict. so the poor quality controls showing up.

In other news.. there are Israelis posting in RT ,celebrating the plane crash.. they still buthurt of Russia
aiding Syrian Government to shot down their best combat planes. \\

Vann7 wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:What's wrong with Russian aviation industry? Almost every time I read about a plane crashing it is a Russian plane.

Probably quality controls are not as good as in the western civilizations.. I have read lots of stories
of the poor conditions of Russia military facilities.. Something as simple like Rats ,planes parked in open Air ,
can damage  planes electrical cables. Also the bad weather recently in all Europe and Russia ,could damage planes , freeze parts.. etc...

Definitively Russia what is doing for quality controls is not enough.. I have yet to see a news of an AMerican transport plane crashing ..and Russia got 2 in a period of one year .. or so. SO it should be very scary to have to board
one of those planes.. this is possibly the #3 cargo plane falling for Russia since Syrian conflict. so the poor quality controls showing up.

So Russia is losing dozens of soldiers in Syria alone due to lack of discipline and pure laziness?

As for Israelis, Ukrainians, Finns etc. celebrating this news, it is Russia who is giving its enemies reasons to celebrate. Time after time again. Stop giving them those reasons to celebrate.

MOSCOW, March 6. /TASS/. Russia’s Antonov-26 transport plane crashed in Syria on Tuesday as it was about to land killing 32 people, the Defense Ministry has said.

"On March 6, Russia’s Antonov-26 transport plane crashed at about 15:00 Moscow time as it was about to land at Hmeymim airdrome. According to preliminary data, there were 26 passengers and six crew members on board. Nobody survived," the ministry's report states.

The defence ministry is investigating the crash, but preliminary data suggests it could be a technical malfunction. A commission to examine all possible versions of the crash has been set up.

"According to preliminary information, a technical problem could have been the cause of the crash.The plane hit the ground when it was about 500 meters short of the runway," the Defense Ministry said.

"According to reports from the scene, no fire was delivered against the plane," the ministry added.


More:
http://tass.com/world/992997


The aircraft was from the Special Purpose Aviation Brigade. There is a rumour that Gerasimov is in Syria.

Only a matter of time before there's a coup in Russia and Putin is hanged. By which side doesn't matter at this point. Russia will get what she deserves like always in history. They didn't learn anything from history, not a thing so be prepared to be destroyed again by the west. There is zero chance that all this planes crashing is by accident, just like all those diplomats didn't suddenly started dying by chance. They are killing Russians en masse and there is zero response. Can't wait to hear stupid Peskov talking about another commission that will find the couse of the accident while Putin is sending his condolences to some more dead Russians. This period is reminding me so much of the Nicholas II era that is scary. Hopefully someone who will do what needs to be done moves Putin from his throne before it is to late for Russia. Putin is all bluff and west knows it. Deep inside he is what he's always been: just another liberal and with liberals no matter what shapes and colours Russia isn't going anywhere.

Karl Haushofer wrote:So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

They die in other places like Nigeria.

Karl Haushofer wrote:So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

You like to overreact every time something like this happens. All things considered, Russian losses in Syria have been either low or extremely low.

It's not true that not a single American soldier has died in Syria. They are also not as heavily involved as the Russians. As Neutrality put it, they die and/or have recently died in other places. What's the difference?

In comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan

And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Iraq_War

Among the losses in Afghanistan: 4 C-130 Hercules, 1 KC-135 Stratotanker, 1 Dassault Rafale (!), 3 F-16s, F-15...

Iraq: Another 5 F-16s (!!), 3 F-15Es, 3 F-14s, 31 OH-58 Kiowas, 29 Apaches, 24 Black Hawks... Of course, Iraq was a conventional conflict for a short period time, but still. Those are American/Western losses regardless (not to mention that Iraqi military was a joke).    

Overall, that's thousands of American and NATO soldiers dead.

Nikander wrote:There is zero chance that all this planes crashing is by accident

It's either major incompetence or terrorism/foreign meddling. Neither is a pleasant option for Russia.

Kimppis wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

You like to overreact every time something like this happens. All things considered, Russian losses in Syria have been either low or extremely low.

It's not true that not a single American soldier has died in Syria. They are also not as heavily involved as the Russians. As Neutrality put it, they die and/or have recently died in other places. What's the difference?

In comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan

And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Iraq_War

Among the losses in Afghanistan: 4 C-130 Hercules, 1 KC-135 Stratotanker, 1 Dassault Rafale (!), 3 F-16s, F-15...

Iraq: Another 5 F-16s (!!), 3 F-15Es, 3 F-14s, 31 OH-58 Kiowas, 29 Apaches, 24 Black Hawks... Of course, Iraq was a conventional conflict for a short period time, but still. Those are American/Western losses regardless (not to mention that Iraqi military was a joke).    

Overall, that's thousands of American and NATO soldiers dead.

USA had a far larger contingent in Iraq than Russia in Syria. Russia's losses in Syria are already relatively far bigger than USA's losses in Iraq.

Neutrality wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

They die in other places like Nigeria.

Only a few of them.

And USA has hundreds of thousands of troops outside of its borders while Russia has maybe a few thousands, most of them in Syria. Currently Russia is suffering far bigger casualty numbers than USA in spite of USA being involved in far more wars/conflicts than Russia.

Uh-huh... Give us some numbers, please. (And you obviously don't include PMCs, not that hundreds of them were ever actually killed...)

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Kimppis wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:So far only Russians die in Syria, not a single American casualty.

You like to overreact every time something like this happens. All things considered, Russian losses in Syria have been either low or extremely low.

It's not true that not a single American soldier has died in Syria. They are also not as heavily involved as the Russians. As Neutrality put it, they die and/or have recently died in other places. What's the difference?

In comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan

And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Iraq_War

Among the losses in Afghanistan: 4 C-130 Hercules, 1 KC-135 Stratotanker, 1 Dassault Rafale (!), 3 F-16s, F-15...

Iraq: Another 5 F-16s (!!), 3 F-15Es, 3 F-14s, 31 OH-58 Kiowas, 29 Apaches, 24 Black Hawks... Of course, Iraq was a conventional conflict for a short period time, but still. Those are American/Western losses regardless (not to mention that Iraqi military was a joke).    

Overall, that's thousands of American and NATO soldiers dead.

USA had a far larger contingent in Iraq than Russia in Syria. Russia's losses in Syria are already relatively far bigger than USA's losses in Iraq.

No. No it isn't. Stop being g retarded.

Btw, are there actually hundreds of thousands of Americans soldiers abroad? I'm curious what the numbers actually are... in 2018. I mean certainly over 100K I suppose, but the numbers could be surprisingly small. Of course, still a huge drag on the budget (no double standards here lol: American power projection capabilities are somewhat overrated, but they're still a huge "waste" of money. Both at the same time. Murica of course never wins in our russophile minds.)

It's an undeniable fact that Russian casualties have been low. They have been there since... the seconf half of 2015? Look at the results. The end.

Nikander wrote:They are killing Russians en masse and there is zero response.

This is what bothers me too.

I used to support Russia a lot more fervently a few years ago, but I had make some mental adjustments to save myself from stress. I think it started somewhere in the Maidan revolution when the West won a decisive victory over Russia in Ukraine, which is practically one of the three Russian nations in the world (along with RF and Belarus). I started to think there was something wrong with the Putin regime for allowing this to happen. How could not they see it and prevent it? Taking Crimea was a consolation price, but not enough for losing Ukraine IMO.

I also resent the fact that Russia lets itself be humiliated by the West with no retaliation. The latest one being the Olympic games where Russia went along with this farce and humiliation.

In Donbass Ukraine has a free hand to kill and assassinate NAF officers and politicians. Most of the heros of the summer of 2014 are already dead. They did not die in a battle but were assissinated by Kiev. Russia let it happen and did not seek for a revenge.

Yes, Russia is not as strong as the West and Russia cannot win a conventional war against the West. But Russia has nukes. The West cannot start a conventional war against Russia because of this. And in fact the West has a lot more to lose than Russia in a nuclear war, because the West has more people, more resources and more wealth than Russia. If it all comes down to nuclear war, the West should be the first one to back off and not Russia.

But currently it seems that Russia is the one who is backing off and avoiding the possibility of a nuclear confrontation, letting itself be "poked" without poking back. This is psychologically difficult for someone who supports Russia and who would not like to see Russia humiliated. It's almost like watching a boxing match where the other boxer is just standing still taking punches to his head without punching back or even trying to cover himself.

Kimppis wrote:Btw, are there actually hundreds of thousands of Americans soldiers abroad? I'm curious what the numbers actually are... in 2018. I mean certainly over 100K I suppose, but the numbers could be surprisingly small. Of course, still a huge drag on the budget (no double standards here lol: American power projection capabilities are somewhat overrated, but they're still a huge "waste" of money. Both at the same time. Murica of course never wins in our russophile minds.)

It's an undeniable fact that Russian casualties have been low. They have been there since... the seconf half of 2015? Look at the results. The end.

Karl the village idiot and Vann the "used as a basketball by his dad when an infant" will not take this common sense at face value. They will make up their own narrative like apparent production facilities in dissarray but with no facts to back said claim up.


Your wasting your time.

RIP to the hero’s. Please ignore the trolls.

As always, when a tragedy like this happens, the army of trolls, haters and drama queens will be out tonight in strength.

Just ignore them and concentrate on the mission.

TheArmenian wrote:As always, when a tragedy like this happens, the army of trolls, haters and drama queens will be out tonight in strength.

Just ignore them and concentrate on the mission.

People here thinking it was shot down. Very stupid. Plus, iets a 30 year old antanov....