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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:15 pm

    https://www.rt.com/business/330984-russia-privatization-state-compainies/

    Kremlin to finalize list of state-owned firms for privatization

    The Russian government expects to get more than a trillion rubles ($12.8 billion) from the first round of state enterprise privatizations, reports business daily Vedomosti, citing unnamed federal officials.


    State-owned shares in Rostelecom, Transneft, Aeroflot, Rosneft, Sovcomflot and several other companies are among the possible assets for sale.

    The privatization plan assumes realizing assets worth 33 billion rubles ($424 million). However, the government is ready for a bigger sale as a result of problems with the budget, which could be reduced by 10 percent due to falling oil prices.

    The decision might be taken this week at the meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Vedomosti reports that the Economic Development Ministry’s plan put forward at the end of 2015 has the President's support.

    "The final decision has not been made, specific companies or shares in these companies were not determined. The president instructed the government to finalize the list after the criteria was set, so that there would be an opportunity to once again meet with him in more substantive terms in some format," said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

    On Monday, President Putin said all the privatization deals should be fully transparent with assets sold at realistic, not discount prices. He also said the state should retain control over strategic enterprises to prevent privatized assets leaving Russian jurisdiction.

    The privatization plan was approved by the government two years ago and assumed the state exiting such enterprises as Rosnano, Rostelecom, Rosspirtprom, the United Grain Company, Sheremetyevo International airport and several others. It also suggested a significant reduction in the government holding in Alrosa, Aeroflot, Russian Railways, RusHydro, Transneft and VTB.

    The government could also sell shares in oil majors Rosneft and Bashneft, according to Vedomosti.

    According to Economic Development Minister Aleksey Ulyukaev Russia should kick-off privatization as soon as possible.

    “The budget situation is very critical; the general turbulence of the financial markets does not give reasons to expect some rebound, recovery. Now the challenge is to make… efficient and transparent deals, when the market is extremely unfavorable," he said.

    In November, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said he was considering the possibility of Rosneft’s privatization in 2016 as a source of covering the additional costs of the Reserve Fund.
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    Post  Austin Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:07 am

    CB: Net capital outflow from Russia in 2016 will slow to $ 35-45 billion'

    http://ria.ru/economy/20160203/1369275600.html



    "The trends that emerged in the financial account balance of payments in 2015, should be strengthened in 2016. They should lead to a further significant reduction in net capital outflows in absolute terms - to about 30-45 billion dollars in 2016. Moreover, in the risk scenario the net capital outflows may be even less than in the base "- the study says.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:55 am


    ''Khamenei's top aide says Tehran, Moscow ink $40 billion in projects: agencies''

    http://news.yahoo.com/khameneis-top-aide-says-tehran-moscow-ink-40-133515863.html
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:39 pm

    Not very relevant but... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Khamenei's top aide says Tehran, Moscow ink $40 billion in projects: agencies''

    http://news.yahoo.com/khameneis-top-aide-says-tehran-moscow-ink-40-133515863.html
    All I see is that Russia loans Iran $40 billion and Iran will use this money to purchase Western goods.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:52 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Khamenei's top aide says Tehran, Moscow ink $40 billion in projects: agencies''

    http://news.yahoo.com/khameneis-top-aide-says-tehran-moscow-ink-40-133515863.html
    All I see is that Russia loans Iran $40 billion and Iran will use this money to purchase Western goods.

    It's called a Loan. Given Iran has gas and Oil to boot, the deal is green backed. It's a good deal between strategic partners.
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    Post  Austin Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:09 pm

    Russia’s foreign trade surplus down by $48.9 bln in 2015 to $161.4 bln — customs service

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    http://tass.ru/en/economy/854797

    MOSCOW, February 5. /TASS/. Russia’s foreign trade surplus decreased by 33% ($48.9 bln) in 2015 to $161.4 bln, according to the documents published by the Federal Customs Service.

    Russia’s export dropped by 31.1% to $345.9 bln in 2015 compared with 2014 while import went down by 36.7% to $184.5 bln in the reporting period.

    In 2015, Russia’s external turnover totaled $530.4 bln, a 33.2% decrease compared with 2014.

    The European Union (EU) is still Russia’s leading economic partner as it accounted for 44.8% of Russia’s trade turnover (48.1% in 2014) while the CIS countries - for 12.5% (12.3%), the Eurasian Economic Union member-states - for 7.8% (7.1%) and the APEC member-states - for 28.1% (26.9%).


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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:24 pm

    Russia reoriented to import cars for export
    The number of Russian cars sent for export, increased in 2015 by 2.5 times (to 97.4 thousand units.), Trucks - by 6.3% (up to 20 thousand pieces.). The total value of exports sent to passenger cars exceeded $ 1.1 billion, truck - $ 451 million. wrote:
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    Post  A Different Voice Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:34 am

    Saw this post on Sputnik News and was a bit confused about what Medvedev was saying in it.

    10% cut in gov. salaries for 2016

    Is he saying all federal employees got a 10% salary cut in 2015 and that they will get another 10%  cut in 2016?  I assume what is meant is that these cuts will only apply to relatively high level federal government employees and not all federal  employees.
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:05 am

    A Different Voice wrote:Saw this post on Sputnik News and was a bit confused about what Medvedev was saying in it.

    10% cut in gov. salaries for 2016

    Is he saying all federal employees got a 10% salary cut in 2015 and that they will get another 10%  cut in 2016?  I assume what is meant is that these cuts will only apply to relatively high level federal government employees and not all federal  employees.

    Thank god. Back in the day, federal/state employees were not supposed to make this ridiculous amount of money as they were the "people's people". But now they make so much money per year, that all other options for a job is not considered good or livable.

    Good news. Will salve a lot of money, as there are a lot of "politicians" in the country (especially after making it easier to start a political party).
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:42 am

    http://www.euractiv.com/sections/europes-east/europes-other-russia-problem-321638

    Next time that Kudrin yaps about something reference the above spew. He is making up all sorts of stories
    about massive state pressure on companies without citing any real examples. His job is to act as a believable
    source for anti-Russian propaganda.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:53 am

    So where did they get this 3% drop this year? Worst we heard was 1%.

    Regardless, the article brings very little to the table.  Statistically, I believe it was mentiomed on sdelanounas that out of 4mil new business in 2014, about half of them survived (due to competition and lack of funds from bad loans or no loans).  That would indicate a total of 2mil new small companies started in Russia in 2014.  I cant find data for last year but I assume it is same.  That would indicate real competition.

    And here is another point, many industries were illegally acquired back in the 90's.  So corporate raiding, a lot of it will have to do with government taking back what is theirs and not owned by a foreign agency.  Nof saying that there malpractice, as it exists everywhere, but due to using one anecdotal evidence with a bit of smearing a name (while providing no evidence) doesnt do the article justice and just comes off as poorly written.  Kudrin of course will try to make a name for himself through unscrupulous groups of course.
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:03 am

    sepheronx wrote:So where did they get this 3% drop this year? Worst we heard was 1%.

    Regardless, the article brings very little to the table.  Statistically, I believe it was mentiomed on sdelanounas that out of 4mil new business in 2014, about half of them survived (due to competition and lack of funds from bad loans or no loans).  That would indicate a total of 2mil new small companies started in Russia in 2014.  I cant find data for last year but I assume it is same.  That would indicate real competition.

    And here is another point, many industries were illegally acquired back in the 90's.  So corporate raiding, a lot of it will have to do with government taking back what is theirs and not owned by a foreign agency.  Nof saying that there malpractice, as it exists everywhere, but due to using one anecdotal evidence with a bit of smearing a name (while providing no evidence) doesnt do the article justice and just comes off as poorly written.  Kudrin of course will try to make a name for himself through unscrupulous groups of course.

    Propaganda relies on ignorance. Most people have no idea about the dynamics of company birth and death. Zero. So
    professional liars pull out some numbers and insinuate that there is something horribly wrong with Russia's economy.
    Even some very simple analysis will tell you that millions of new companies cannot form every year and all of them
    surviving. In a rather short period of time there would be thousands of companies selling the same type of products.
    This is not a viable economic state. There is actually a rather small number of "spaces" for companies to occupy
    in any given market. This is due to factors such as the need to have enough profits and the fact that consumers
    settle down on a few choices (like they do in politics).

    In the last 26 years there has been no case of the Russian government extorting a business from some owner either
    on behalf of another interested party or for itself. That was the mode of operation during the roaring era of
    "true" democracy under Yeltsin and in Ukraine this is routine to this day. Kudrin is a blood libeler and really deserves
    a cap in the head. I wouldn't be surprised if his handlers didn't use him like Litvinenko in the near future.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:12 am

    Agreed.  But the point is that this news piece isnt for Russians but english speakers as a way to try and divert their attention away from their own mess and towards Russia - keep the mass at bay kinda thing.  That is evident by the title used.  CBR predicts about 1% gdp decline at low oil prices at $30/bbl.

    On another token, I am generally against the privatization of the various state run companies.  I am not even 100% sure if they will give up all stocks or just resort having lower stocks than 50%+1 share?  I think if the company has value to it but greatly underperforming, sure, sell it to someone who may do better.  But Aeroflot? No... just no.  It will make things worst as new owner may simply not purchase any SSJ and wont support domestic cause he/she can easily be bought out.  As well, the short term gain will be easily gone by next year and that means far less money into budget.


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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:23 am

    sepheronx wrote:Agreed.

    On another token, I am generally against the privatization of the various state run companies.  I am not even 100% sure if they will give up all stocks or just resort having lower stocks than 50%+1 share?  I think if the company has value to it but greatly underperforming, sure, sell it to someone who may do better.  But Aeroflot? No... just no.  It will make things worst as new owner may simply not purchase any SSJ and wont support domestic cause he/she can easily be bought out.  As well, the short term gain will be easily gone by next year and that means far less money into budget.

    The only reason that the state should unload companies is if they are money sinks. Aeroflot is not bleeding red ink.

    We have the same BS here in Ontario. There are never ending calls to privatize the LLCBO, the provincial monopolist
    liquor retailer. But the LLCBO is one of the biggest sources of revenues for the provincial government. And the LLCBO
    does a good job. There is zero reason to privatize it.

    I meant 16 years in my last post not 26. Putin cleaned up the Russian government after he took office. All the barking
    about "his" corruption is grotesque.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:52 am

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Agreed.

    On another token, I am generally against the privatization of the various state run companies.  I am not even 100% sure if they will give up all stocks or just resort having lower stocks than 50%+1 share?  I think if the company has value to it but greatly underperforming, sure, sell it to someone who may do better.  But Aeroflot? No... just no.  It will make things worst as new owner may simply not purchase any SSJ and wont support domestic cause he/she can easily be bought out.  As well, the short term gain will be easily gone by next year and that means far less money into budget.

    The only reason that the state should unload companies is if they are money sinks.  Aeroflot is not bleeding red ink.

    We have the same BS here in Ontario.   There are never ending calls to privatize the LLCBO, the provincial monopolist
    liquor retailer.   But the LLCBO is one of the biggest sources of revenues for the provincial government.   And the LLCBO
    does a good job.   There is zero reason to privatize it.

    I meant 16 years in my last post not 26.   Putin cleaned up the Russian government after he took office.   All the barking
    about "his" corruption is grotesque.  
    Well, its all unfounded of course.  Reason why privatization of aeroflot is dangerous is for lots of reasons.  But if the government does privatize it to concentrate on building up another airliner, then I am OK with that.  But that is the problem, they will lose a ton of revenue from it.  And sadly enough, even Kudrin said the same thing (broken clock can be right twice a day).

    Though it isnt final yet.  So we will see.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:04 am

    http://m.ria.ru/economy/20160207/1371063470.html?rubric=economy

    Pretty much gives a better idea on he privatization plans.  So they will still hold major stakes but sell a few to gain investment interest as well as additional revenue.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:56 pm

    Anyone and KVS: 

    Finance Ministry proposes to halve the deduction for severance tax on oil

    I am not sure about what is being mentioned? Halving it, wont it effect budget negatively due to less money from oil companies? Or what am I missing from this?
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    Post  Guest Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:50 am

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    So apparently Russia and Serbia are 2nd and 3rd on Misery index Smile

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    And then worlds most miserable economies put Serbia on spot 7, Russia spot 14.

    Sources:

    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/economic-headwinds-big-players-regime-uncertainty-misery-index
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-04/these-are-the-world-s-most-miserable-economies

    ---- Reposted it from Serbian news thread, though you guys would like to see it
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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:18 am

    sepheronx wrote:Anyone and KVS: 

    Finance Ministry proposes to halve the deduction for severance tax on oil

    I am not sure about what is being mentioned? Halving it, wont it effect budget negatively due to less money from oil companies? Or what am I missing from this?

    They are talking about a tax discount that was balanced for the old, high oil prices. This is a measure to get more tax income and a very good
    one since corporate welfare is a world wide phenomenon.
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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:21 am

    Militarov wrote:Russian Economy General News: #6 - Page 14 CauqIs5UEAAwrdg

    So apparently Russia and Serbia are 2nd and 3rd on Misery index Smile

    Freaking joke.  Look at the position of Moldova in 2014.   These indices are shitballs scraped out of the asses of the people that produced them.
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    Post  A Different Voice Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:16 am

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Anyone and KVS: 

    Finance Ministry proposes to halve the deduction for severance tax on oil

    I am not sure about what is being mentioned? Halving it, wont it effect budget negatively due to less money from oil companies? Or what am I missing from this?

    They are talking about a tax discount that was balanced for the old, high oil prices.   This is a measure to get more tax income and a very good
    one since corporate welfare is a world wide phenomenon.

    The corporate welfare to oil/gas companies in Russia is somewhat mitigated by the government's relatively large ownership stakes in the companies that produce and refine the bulk of its hydrocarbons. To some degree, the dividends paid to the government by these companies will decrease while taxes they pay will increase. However, the increased tax revenue  should significantly outweigh the decreased dividends. The tax change will however act as a disincentive to open new fields; especially for the independent companies.
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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:45 pm

    http://michael-hudson.com/2016/02/the-atlanticist-tactic-revisited/

    Two years ago, Russian officials discussed plans to privatize a group of national enterprises headed by the oil producer Rosneft, the VTB Bank, Aeroflot, and Russian Railways. The stated objective was to streamline management of these companies, and also to induce oligarchs to begin bringing their two decades of capital flight back to invest in the Russia economy. Foreign participation was sought in cases where Western technology transfer and management techniques would be likely to help the economy.

    However, the Russian economic outlook deteriorated as the United States pushed Western governments to impose economic sanctions against Russia and oil prices declined. This has made the Russian economy less attractive to foreign investors. So sale of these companies will bring much lower prices today than would have been likely in 2014.

    Meanwhile, the combination of a rising domestic budget deficit and balance-of-payments deficit has given Russian advocates of privatization an argument to press ahead with the sell-offs. The flaw in their logic is their neoliberal assumption that Russia cannot simply monetize its deficit, but needs to survive by selling off more major assets. We warn against Russia being so gullible as to accept this dangerous neoliberal argument. Privatization will not help re-industrialize Russia’s economy, but will aggravate its turn into a rentier economy from which profits are extracted for the benefit of foreign owners.

    Russia needs to stop emulating BS western theories and look at what the west actually does into terms of finances.
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    Post  Austin Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:19 pm

    Agree this is not the right time to privatise the asset when the market is on the low and sanctions still there , they will get a lower price for it.

    But when the market is on high no one thinks of privatising either.

    May be they can just sell some part to Russian Private Industrialist.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:04 pm

    The plan is that the people to purchase it will be the current Russian billionairs that will use their offshore wealth to purchase it, on agreements to keep the money internal.

    The other thing I learned today, as example of the rosneft sale, is that the "privatization" part isnt actually selling all assets to one person but instead selling 19.5% of shares to anyone interested.  Currently, government hold 69.5% of shares.  So what Rus gov will be left with is 50% +1 share making them still dominant holder. And purpose of this is to prevent what happened in the 90's when major stake was sold to an individual and then assets stripped and sold abroad. 

    http://m.ria.ru/economy/20160209/1371619285.html?rubric=economy

    This is essentually to happen with all government assets being pushed.  General idea is that they will bring in investments and then as well bring in revenue for budget.  As I posted earlier, they stated they will still hold majority of shares to keep the business inside the country. And the idea to privatize to domestic oligarches is to keep the money inside the country as well.  Only two I am concerned about is aeroflot and railways as I am not sure how much Rus gov has in those two in ownership in stocks.

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