Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

Roskosmos plans to reduce excess areas of enterprises of the industry

Roskosmos plans to open a center of the rocket and space industry in Moscow

Rogozin appointed Kharchenko acting deputy Roskosmos

Oleg Frolov has headed the defense programs of Roskosmos

In the KB hiamavtomatiki told about the hydrogen rocket engines of the future

MOSCOW, June 22 - RIA Novosti. Hydrogen rocket engines of the Russian production in the future can be facilitated by the use of a laser ignition system, chief designer of the Design Bureau of Chemical Automatics (KBHA) Victor Gorokhov said on Friday.

"The introduction of a laser ignition system in a liquid rocket engine helps to reduce its mass, which is always important for rocket technology, and also simplifies the cycle of launching a liquid rocket engine," the words of Gorokhov on the website of the Energomash NGO (the head organization of the Integrated Structure of Missile Engine Building, KBA).
According to him, this way it will be possible to improve the reliability of the engine.

Tests of the new ignition system were carried out at the KBCA on 20 June.

Now in Russia a superheavy rocket is being developed, the upper stage of which is to receive the RD-150 hydrogen engine. As stated earlier by the general designer for manned space systems and complexes of Russia Evgeny Mikrin, it will be created using the developments on the RD-120 engine, which operated on the second stage of the Soviet superheavy "Energia" rocket.

The federal comic program of Russia for the period 2016-2025 will be revised for mutual coordination of promising projects, RIA Novosti reported to Roskosmos state corporation.

At the end of June, the new director general of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, presented his vision for the development of the Russian space-rocket industry. In particular, some programs were revised: it was decided to return the manned program from Baikonur to the Vostochny space center, and the Federation ship was to be re-launched from the Soyuz-5 rocket to the Angara , from the current concept of the Soyuz-5 carrier "it is decided to refuse, and instead of it to think over a rocket on methane fuel.

In turn, a source in the rocket and space industry explained to RIA Novosti that the Roskosmos leadership is now considering two concepts of changing the Federal Space Program - cosmetic changes and a complete revision of the entire program. To this end, the state corporation conducts daily meetings and forms a new vision for the development of the space program. "Depending on the results obtained, this or that decision will be taken," the source said.

Earlier it was reported that during a recent meeting with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, Rogozin received support from the government in the steps to restore the financial system of the state corporation.

It was also reported that the current Federal Space Program of Russia could be reduced due to underfunding by about 150 billion rubles in the next three years, which will require a revision of its timing and target parameters.

The Federal Space Program of Russia for 2016-2025 was approved by the government in March 2016. The volume of its budget financing is set at 1.4 trillion rubles. Initially, when developing the program in 2014, prior to the sequestration of budget expenditures, it was proposed to request 2.8 trillion rubles for its implementation.

Big_Gazza wrote:Anyone know if this is legit?  Haven't heard about it anywhere else, not even on dweeb Zaks site...

Roscosmos will adjust the Federal Space Program until 2025   https://ria.ru/science/20180703/1523866069.html

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Dafuq????  Federation is back to Angara-5P from Vostochny, and Soyuz-5 might be a methalox vehicle?  

Or is this just a Google translate feck-up?...

Hmmm...   gonna have a wee drinkie and contemplate the pointlessness of ever thinking that the Russian space program is run by anything other than head-less chickens running about the kitchen...   Not that this would be a bad outcome, but really?.....

Nibiru wrote:Russia is plagued with 5th columnists and this is happening under Putin's nose,  is he getting senile or what?

"The new team leaders, who formed the "Roskosmos", very closely followed by all companies in the industry. Special attention is paid to the assessment of the situation at the head of important companies in the industry - in the Center Khrunichev and RSC Energia. According to the results of the preliminary assessment, the conclusions about the need for personnel changes at these enterprises", - said the "Interfax" a senior source in the space industry.

miketheterrible wrote:Papa, you seem to have some serious issues. Nothing going on with roscosmos is fatal.........

miketheterrible wrote:Is it official that they cut Soyuz-5? I haven't really read anywhere that they did....

miketheterrible wrote:...Yes, Russia will be low orbit for a while....

miketheterrible wrote:...They will still send people to space...

miketheterrible wrote:...and develop space tech.

miketheterrible wrote:They won't be like Space X ...

miketheterrible wrote:Space x doesn't produce new stuff. And it's a loss, not gain in economy. Their entire R&D was hand me down from NASA.

miketheterrible wrote:Anyway, they haven't sent people to space.

miketheterrible wrote:And why do you doubt they will produce new space tech?

miketheterrible wrote:They still build and launch satellites, majority of the modules on ISS is Russian built, etc.

miketheterrible wrote:Launching a car into space is nothing. But if you think otherwise, then it shows what kind of character you are - all about bling and show but little of substance.

PapaDragon wrote:I'd say that Roscosmos should do some hand-me-down but they refuse to sell old N-1 engines to S7 even though they are not using them and never will.

miketheterrible wrote:Fact is, they stole already existing tech in order to launch stuff. End of story. Space X is a fraud. Elon musk is a fraud.........

Big_Gazza wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:I'd say that Roscosmos should do some hand-me-down but they refuse to sell old N-1 engines to S7 even though they are not using them and never will.

AFAIK the remaining NK-33 stocks are ear-marked for use on the Soyuz 2.1v. Once they are used up, they will switch to an RD-193 (shortened version of RD-191). Stocks are limited, so it makes sense to hold onto them and use them up rather than selling and having to buy replacements. If S-7 want engines so badly, let them buy the RD-193 direct...

kvs wrote:What.

It has been pointed out that the existing stock of NK-33 is allocated. S7 has to look elsewhere. No conspiracy required to explain
the situation.

S7 should push Energomash to move up production of the RD-193. That would be something that is realistic and good for Russia.

kvs wrote:S7 is not a rocket engine manufacturer.    Energomash is.   It makes no sense to license S7 anything.

Big_Gazza wrote:.....

If S-7 was to be granted (gifted?) the IP for a restart of NK-33 production, who would they use to build the engines?