MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News #2

GarryB wrote:

Here in New Zealand when they were retiring the Skyhawks they didn't even come to the south island for a farewell flight because it was "too far"... I am sure they justified it up north by saying everything is in the North Island and there is nothing in the South Island that would need protecting... they can't protect everywhere after all... of course if the hydro dams in the south island went it would get very dark in the north island very quickly...

Cyberspec wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Aerospace Forces have received two modern MiG-35 fighters and will receive four more before the end of the year, Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Director General Ilya Tarasenko said.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201906171075905609-russia-mig-35-fighters/

George1 wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Aerospace Forces have received two modern MiG-35 fighters and will receive four more before the end of the year, Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Director General Ilya Tarasenko said.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201906171075905609-russia-mig-35-fighters/

then why they had said that the contract of 6 will be fulfilled by 2023 since all 6 will have been delivered by the end of 2019??

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Aerospace Forces have received two modern MiG-35 fighters and will receive four more before the end of the year, Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Director General Ilya Tarasenko said.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201906171075905609-russia-mig-35-fighters/

then why they had said that the contract of 6 will be fulfilled by 2023 since all 6 will have been delivered by the end of 2019??

This news appears every month but it is not true, what happened in reality is that the two prototypes of MiG-35, No.702 and No.712, have reached the Polygon of Akhtubinsk to complete the latest state tests

For the moment only a MiG-35UB Nº11 has lifted the flight for test at the factory of Lujovitsi and will not be delivered to the tropos until the end of years, in a batch of 4 aircraft that is planned for this year

George1 wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Aerospace Forces have received two modern MiG-35 fighters and will receive four more before the end of the year, Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Director General Ilya Tarasenko said.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201906171075905609-russia-mig-35-fighters/

then why they had said that the contract of 6 will be fulfilled by 2023 since all 6 will have been delivered by the end of 2019??

marcellogo wrote:

George1 wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Aerospace Forces have received two modern MiG-35 fighters and will receive four more before the end of the year, Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Director General Ilya Tarasenko said.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201906171075905609-russia-mig-35-fighters/

then why they had said that the contract of 6 will be fulfilled by 2023 since all 6 will have been delivered by the end of 2019??

 NO, NOT AGAIN!
In Russia contracts are awarded using the formula "in the framework of the (20xx to) 20xx+10 State Acquisition Program".
Said SAP cover nominally a 10 years long period but in reality there is a revision every 5 years, in which a new one would be redacted and would substitute the old.
So, in reality the contract are awarded within a five years interval.

The final date of the SAP doesn't mean that any contract awarded would last until the final year of the framework, less even that the numbers contracted would be split in even parts in each years from the signing of itto that precise date but just that it would be in any case finished during that interval of time.
A contract that start before the closing date of the current SAP but is scheduled to end after such date would instead be awarded into the next five years framework.

It this quite regular scansion the actual SAP would be an exception, it would have been named 2016-2025 but it was delayed as a consequence of the coup and the conflict in Ukraina and so it became the 2019- 2028 to be followed by the 2024-2033.
Contracts would instead be awarded into frameworks ending respectively in 2023, 2028 and 2033.

So, expect the contracts to be awarded "under the framework of the 2023 program" to be quite few and relatively small.
Such framework would in reality be an hollow one, lasting three years only as the majority of actual contracts, referring mainly to 4++ gen Flankers, were awarded "in the framework of the 2020" while the full production ones of Su-57 and Mig-35 would be probably awarded in the second leg of the "modified" 2019-2028 SAP i.e. they would have the denomination of "in the framework of the 2028 program" instead.

franco wrote:

MiamiMachineShop wrote:Which units are using Mig-29SMT? - one plus Lipetsk and Ahtubinsk  
I had seen news about how the last Mig-29 regiment was replaced by SU-30SM. - squadron in Armenia still using Mig-29
Does anyone know how many Mig-29 are in use? Of SMT variants, k variant, UB, and Mig-29S?

44 - 29SMT
8 - 29UBT
19 - 29K
4 - 29KUB
6-8 - 29S
14-18 - 29UB
24-30 - 29A

Really hard to give an exact number but best that I can give.

http://idrw.org/russia-offers-india-more-mig-29upg-fighter-jets-at-throw-away-price/
Previous media reports had put the fleet offered at 21 air frames which were inspected by the IAF team which had visited Russia. But as per latest media report, Russia has offered India, 34 Mig-29UPG which also includes 21 bare borne air frames which were never flown and 13 Mig-29SMT which are barely 10 years old and were manufactured in 2008. Russia has offered to upgrade all 34 Mig-29s with new engines and new radars as per current upgraded Mig-29UPG operated by Indian Air Force.

George1 wrote:

so 0/6 till now

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2438502.html
Two more prototypes of the MiG-35 fighter were ordered.
February 17th, 2017
As a source in the military-industrial complex reported to the TASS agency on February 16, 2017, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC)
According to taht,  it is planned to switch from factory testing of two existing aircraft in Lukhovitsy, Moscow Region, to state tests at the State Flight Test Center in Akhtubinsk (Astrakhan Region).
“Some more later two more MiG-35s will be connected to state tests, the contract for which was recently signede

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3617998.html
A photo appeared in the air at the aerodrome of the Lukhovitsky Aviation Plant named after P.A. Voronin - a branch of the RSK MiG JSC of the two-seat training and combat fighter MiG-35UB built there for the Ministry of Defense of Russia with a tail number "11 blue". The aircraft bears the inscription "VKS of Russia". Presumably, this is the first of two additional pre-production MiG-35UB and MiG-35 aircraft for conducting State tests, for which the contract was signed by the Russian Ministry of Defense in February 2017.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6013095
MOSCOW, January 18. / Tass /. The aerospace forces of Russia will receive four light MiG-35 fighter jets in 2019. This was reported TASS source

14 more fighters
The source added that the contract for the supply of the next batch of 14 MiG-35 fighters will be signed in 2020.

"In 2020, it is planned to sign a new contract with a validity of, presumably, three years for the delivery of another 14 MiG-35 to the VKS"

The contract for the supply of 6 MiG-35s until 2023 on August 22, 2018 at the Army 2018 forum in Kubinka was signed by Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko and head of the United Aircraft Building Corporation Yury Slusar

Isos wrote:
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Looks like there is a new MiG-35UB (blue 11).
Photo: Анатолий Бурцев

Austin wrote:Interview with Indian airforce Mig 29 pilot

https://hushkit.net/2019/08/12/flying-fighting-in-the-mig-29-interview-with-indian-air-force-fulcrum-pilot-air-marshal-harish-masand/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

GarryB wrote:Makes sense that a smaller lighter aircraft uses less fuel to move it around the sky.

Most importantly it operates at the same speed as the larger Flankers... so with inflight refuelling should be able to cover the same area in a similar amount of time...

In more densely populated areas of western Russia it makes more sense to have smaller lighter fighters covering the airspace...