Militarov wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Goliath crane installation in Zvezda:
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More pics:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96598/
But that is Finnish crane from what i am aware
It's definitely imported, probably from Finland so yes
Why?
Militarov wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Goliath crane installation in Zvezda:
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More pics:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96598/
But that is Finnish crane from what i am aware
miketheterrible wrote:Do you really need to ask that question? He will blather on about Russia produces nothing cause it couldn't build a simple crane, and had to import one.
PapaDragon wrote:miketheterrible wrote:Do you really need to ask that question? He will blather on about Russia produces nothing cause it couldn't build a simple crane, and had to import one.
Before this becomes another aircraft carrier discussion I would like to implore everyone to exercise restraint.
Yes it does suck that Russia has to import this stuff (even though they may be on the clock ATM).
But also let's not pretend that Russia had some master plan.
True, they might have one now but until less than a decade ago their only ambition was to become more blizzardy version of Saudi Arabia.
Industrialization came up only recently so it takes time for effects to kick in and it is faster to just buy one from abroad.
miketheterrible wrote:I don't agree with those assessments. And anyway, that is what Militarov would say and he isn't wrong either. I was being more exaggerating but lets be real here, Russia should be building it themselves. Finland isn't necessarily a friend of Russia but so far, lately, they have been pretty decent neighbors compared to other assholes. So I guess it is fine.
Anyway, I don't really care. I am glad the shipyard is going as well as it is. They need this.
GarryB wrote:To be fair the main lesson from the Misral debacle is that even paid for contracts can be broken by americas bitches.
Ask me just 4-5 years ago if France was a bitch to America and i would have said not... France has pride... in itself and its customers.
The whole purpose of buying the Mistrals was that they would have both been in service by now in a largely already proven design.
I had to say I laughed out loud at the French reaction when a certain country that had promised to buy French helos if Russia did not get her carriers reneged on that deal too.
Similar to the feelings I had when terrorists were killing french people in Paris... imagine foreigners coming to your country and blowing things up and killing people... (Note I am from New Zealand BTW)
Russian companies probably could have come up with a crane that was able to do the job... I don't think they chose a Finn crane because it was from Finland.
Clearly it must have had better specs or was cheaper, or could be done within the required time frame.
hoom wrote:............
The Goliath is completed now (& confirmed thats an Oscar looking tiny next to it)
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AlfaT8 wrote:Looks like it's mostly done, now all we have to do is wait for the order to be given, any words from Rogozin, Shoygu or Putin?
PapaDragon wrote:.
Civilian or military?
Zvezda shipyard will lay down first four vessels in September 2017
http://www.en.portnews.ru/news/243940/
PapaDragon wrote:
Fist ship laid down might be this civilian one for Rosneft. Anyone know what kind of ship this is?
Tingsay wrote:
Pella is in good hands!
It needs to take on Project 20386 Derzky immediately. I'm certain they'll finish the job faster than Severnaya and Amur combined.