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Rodion_Romanovic wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
LHD project designed by Zelenodolsk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN5sRLHX0AEt-s0?format=jpg&name=900x900
Do we know the differences between this one and Lavina LHD? They should be of similar size...
Hole wrote:
front of tower but those could just be containers
very similar to Mistral:
Isos wrote:very similar to Mistral:
50 smaller than mistral. Design may be similar but the ship itself is different because 50m smaller.
We will notice also that again russian media suckks at taking pictures.
(...)I wonder what is its characteristics in comparison with Mistral?
There are no iPods)))
And there are three orders of armament more)))
If they're building it in Zaliv & want it to be able to transit the Bosphorus it makes perfect sense.It would make no sense to put UKSK on it, the ship will have escorts for that.
204m (looks like 192m waterline) is basically same as Mistral.50 smaller than mistral.
with 299 meters it would have been almost as long as the Kuznetov (304m) and much longer than the french nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulles (about 262m).Isos wrote:My bad I thought it was writen 234m and confused the sized of the mistral as being 299 instead of 199m.
It is not necessary to have missile launchers for the expedient of calling it a cruiser in order to be able to transit the bosphorus, as it is not a pure aircraft carrier anyway. However, being it a Russian ship I would consider it useful to have at least the possibility to defend itself.hoom wrote:If they're building it in Zaliv & want it to be able to transit the Bosphorus it makes perfect sense.It would make no sense to put UKSK on it, the ship will have escorts for that.
I would class it as an absolute requirement
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Isos wrote:I think those are not redut but shtil-1 launchers. You can see the typical radars for shtil-1 on the tower.
Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Isos wrote:I think those are not redut but shtil-1 launchers. You can see the typical radars for shtil-1 on the tower.
Well, shtil-1 plus pantsir will make her very well defended on the short and medium range (up to 45 km, or even 70 if they make a naval equivalent of the buk-m3 system.
Isos wrote:Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Isos wrote:I think those are not redut but shtil-1 launchers. You can see the typical radars for shtil-1 on the tower.
Well, shtil-1 plus pantsir will make her very well defended on the short and medium range (up to 45 km, or even 70 if they make a naval equivalent of the buk-m3 system.
They don't need more. Shtil intercept on the medium range and pantsir takes everything that goes through shtil. If it misses then it has 30mm guns.
3 layers of defence. Another advantage is the ability to carry one or more ka-31 and have a very good situation awarness.
Comradespud wrote:Found this image of the proposed ships today, not sure if already posted but as you can see looks very similar to the other seen design, looks to have redut front of the tower, 4 pantsir and 4 rbu. Decks layout looks a little different but still same features, not sure if it has kalibr unless it’s utilising this long awaited universal launcher? looking good anyway
Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Isos wrote:I think those are not redut but shtil-1 launchers. You can see the typical radars for shtil-1 on the tower.
Well, shtil-1 plus pantsir will make her very well defended on the short and medium range (up to 45 km, or even 70 if they make a naval equivalent of the buk-m3 system.
George1 wrote:Russia to spend $1.3 bln to construct two helicopter carriers — source
Arrow wrote:It's fairy tales. Russia has around 2,000 cases a day. The economy will not be able to afford new ships.
Shtill-1 48 cells? its more medium-range SAM then any of existing Russian frigates. Interesting concept, besides 4xPantisr M iz mor ethen Gorskhov... so closer to Slava class capabilities then frigate.
It's fairy tales. Russia has around 2,000 cases a day. The economy will not be able to afford new ships.
PapaDragon wrote:George1 wrote:Russia to spend $1.3 bln to construct two helicopter carriers — source
Any chance they will grace us with official image soon?
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