Russian Economy General News: #11

RTN wrote:

calripson wrote:Modern Monetary Theory says debt doesn't matter. Simple monetize the debt and keep on going!  

How can Debt be Monetized ?

The Federal Reserve buys the debt directly from the Treasury with newly created money (credit). This should devalue the value of existing currency and lead ultimately to inflation. In the past, all those newly created dollars flowed to places like China - who were glad to exchange real products for Uncle Sam's funny money. Hence the appeal of a global reserve currency. The US could run balance of trade deficits as far as the eye could see while countries like Japan and China collected pretty little IOU's from Uncle Sam paying 1-2% interest that promised to pay them back 10 or 30 years in the future (wink, wink).

Austin wrote:Coronavirus is the pin that burst U.S. economy's bubble, says analyst who predicted 2008 crash

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-us-economy-collapse-recession

Corona can burst the bubble..and sink russia gold reserves at same time , but it doesn't end US empire and is influence and its system.. because the system is not under challenge if they can continue having no competition
in their leading modern business...  
So they can create another bubble , even if it is smaller ,they can continue creating bubbles forever..
nothing stop them from creating another one.. is like a bully having a gun ,and everyone else disarmed.
so the disarmed people will obey on anything no matter the demands.. US weapons are its business..
this is what holds the americans system in place running in one piece ..if US lose its technology and modern business leadership to China ,which is pushing more another system ,that oppose the US system... then the support and trust will go towards the new leader.... and the only way US will have to influence nations.. is exactly how Russia do it.. with big nukes..and modern weapons, both US can't use nukes to maintain nations
under their control.. it will not work..  unless they go hitler mode.. that is to get leadership and influence by the use terror and force.

this is the major thing everyone  ignores in this forum it seems..
It reality money currency on its own means nothing , is a symbolic thing.. and its value , is determined
by Trust.. how much trust ,how much interest /desire nations and people have to continue doing business with that nation..is the about the question.. what i can do with that currency ?  Possibly the US-jews central banking elite ,will invent a digital currency bitcoin like fraud and the world will continue with it.. because if they want internet ,if they want to follow the leader in nation development and its system.. then they will follow the american system,that include the asian high tech giants ,like japan , south korea ,taiwan.. so they US will invent a new bubble ,with a new currency and things will continue being always in their favor ... this is why Putin's gas station project is doomed to fail and olympics capital dream will fail... because money without real nation development , real progress is doomed to fail.    Germany have never been a popular nation in sports..  or a popular country for tourism ,but they have far more influence than any other nation in the world in modern business after US and Japan.  so i rather buy something from germany ,than from Russia.. because i don't need gas stations , or crude oil ,that is the only consumer things that only Russia have to offer the civilians in the world.. Russia sells fine kalashnikosh rifles..but thats it.. thats all what putin can offer the world to the average
citizen , gas discounts and rifles..    but is not something you can't live without it ,or replace it with an alternative.  At same time there is no alternative to american internet and US digital business..   except for china small but growing high tech industry.  

So those here in the forum crossing their fingers ,that american economy collapse.. to celebrate it..
"As the end of the American empire" , will be for a major hard awakening reality , that is not the US petro dollar
what give US is leadership position in the world.. but its Business lead.. what do it.. is not a question of how much paper money they have.. but who they are , and what they can offer the world with their bussiness.
so will come again to laugh in the face ,of everyone in this forum ,who believed US system will end with the
collapse of the dollar as reserve currency.. . not going to happen. they will create another currency ,likely digital
and it will continue ruling the world. so later don't say i didn't warned it.. US central banks are even speaking
about a reset of world debt..     so what the fools in this forums ,cheerleaders of putin will say.. when the dollar bubble argument ends? and shows how stupid Putin is ,trying to break the petro dollar system ,without touching the US business leadership?  A growing the economy strategy ,as Putin wants without progress ,without
modern business economy will not work.. because completely ignores ,to challenge the very same things
US use to lure nations into their orbit. US can re-create its nation economic model again and again with its own rules biased in their favor ,in any way ,shape or form it desire , end the dollar and move to a digital currency , no problem..  don't want to trade with us or accept our dollars? then fine ,we disconnect you from the internet ,from our leading world business ,from are high tech industry and entertainment industry.. software industry computer industry ,NASA leading space exploration and so on and on.. and japan and taiwan will follow americans
because their business lead the world..and they close second..  

Russia have zero chance..0%. to survive as a nation.. while it remain inside a system created by jews-americans
and for jews-americans first.. and not challenging their high tech business influence. this is why is retarded for Putin to fight US ,without challenging their leadership.
All US needs to do is continue creating syrian like terrorist wars.. all over the world.. targeting Russian closest allies..forcing Russian army to interfere.. Restart the ukrainian war , and ask them to start bombing russian cities.. non stop.. with long range artillery. and start killing ethnic russians in ukraine... and you will see
how Russia is forced into a full scale invasion into an endless war ,with US arming ukrainians from poland and romanian border non stop.. they can blow out those nuclear reactors in ukraine and will be blamed of
russian ballistic missiles air strikes.. "that went of route" . they are building a bio lad in kharkiv next to
Russian border..    So what the fuck is putin doing.. he will never win Americans with politeness bullshit
and with his gas station gas discounts. and lets not mention US can easily provoke the restart of the war between Russia and Turkey.. so many options americans have to break Russia.. and putin is only playing with the the king.. while americans have all the pieces ..  

The only reason Russia is still around and not disbanded in a million of pieces ,if because hillary clinton did not
won the elections , that women was pure evil ,and will have taken proxy wars ,to a whole new level ,serbia attacked, cuba, venezuela ,ukraine ,syria ,serbia ,restart Transnistria War and kill russians there ,always by proxy.. invest a fortune ,hiring endless mercenaries in desestabilizing those nations and russia economy will break into major recession in no time.. and this is without americans firing a bullet on Russia.  now if biden wins
she will likely become on his team..and russia completely doomed.. Putin is a major security threat for his own country ,for his mediocre strategy to counter his enemies. If the US corrupt system and influence in the world ends any time in the long future .. it will not be thanks to the idiot Putin  he actually strenghtened the US system by his inaction. The only real dangers that US system face are China raise as a global modern business power..and European union distancing from US.. But Putin's Russia ,offer zero competition ,zero danger for the american empire.. Putin actually ends helping americans.. because nations see how weak is putin ,and how he does nothing to counter the west.. and they correctly conclude.. that any country who joins Russia allies club
will face the same fate of venezuela and cuba.. or north korea .

calripson wrote:The Federal Reserve buys the debt directly from the Treasury with newly created money (credit). This should devalue the value of existing currency and lead ultimately to inflation. In the past, all those newly created dollars flowed to places like China - who were glad to exchange real products for Uncle Sam's funny money. Hence the appeal of a global reserve currency. The US could run balance of trade deficits as far as the eye could see while countries like Japan and China collected pretty little  IOU's from Uncle Sam paying 1-2% interest that promised to pay them back 10 or 30 years in the future (wink, wink).

Let's leave aside poor third world countries of Asia and Africa but even powerful countries like China do not oppose this discriminatory practice of using USD as a reserve currency. They seem to be quite happy with the status quo.

x_54_u43 wrote:Could you please give us your opinion and knowledge on future Russian economic growth and potential? What are your thoughts on the National Projects?

Federation's long standing development program (it continue since more than a decade and some of its breakthreughs are already available and visible today) for next two decades aimed at overturn today standing hierarchy in industrial production basis and ,from it, commercial and financiary primacy foresee and select two main areas ,the product of first one - theoretical Science- being and representing the scientifical prerequisite basis for the second - applicative field-, on which wide majority of the resources (financiary but even more important human) from visible and "black" chapters of planning has been allocated:


Areas one:

1) Material Science : with particualr enphasis on new kind of plasmonic, negative index and photon-sensible metamaterials and characteristics and syntesys on new type of 2D ones.

2) Plasma Physics : in particular computation of the local and "singular" interactions in plasma magneto-dynamics phenomenons, long-live plasmoid formation and impermeable aggregates.

3) Nuclear Physics : several breakthrough already achieved and applied and others waiting the completion of some programs from area two to be fully utilized

4) Physics phenomenons not previously fully indagated/known or with only latest experimentation's possibility : covered


Areas two:


A) New generation of integrated circuits on a new material basis -photonic and plasmoinic - (form 1 and 2) allowing, together with B, to furtherly shorten researchs in area 2 and 3.

B) AI researchs : A subproduct of area 1, 2 and A; there are already several results without any foreign counterpart waiting for completion of programs in area 1.

C) New generation of propulsion devices : The most far in the full realization, requiring establishment of B to speed up the most challenging researchs in areas 2, 3 and 4.

D) New generation of reactors

E) Bioelectronics, bio cybernetics and new generation drugs


Some of those macro-areas, obviously, coincide with similar efforts abroad ,but several data and latest results ,well above what foreign specialists has been capable to achieve in the same time frame, allow generally to believe that domestic efforts will produce a technological primacy of at least 7-8 years in comparison with foreign developments.

Some fundamental prerequisites has been already put into reality such as a mass production capability ,surpassing of several times similar result abroad, of the necessary graphene nanotubes and graphene-based composites, indispensable for the establishment of area A, C and E.

The advantage the Federation will enjoy is that the new lines of production will be directly established on the new technological basis while the nations relying on the dying microelectronic field primacy will find themselves on the back-foot ,with entire production sectors becoming suddenly terribly backwarded, and therefore forced to be reconverted on a new basis.

This necessity to dismantle the wide majority of the same fields allowing those nations in the latest 15 years to enjoy, in some popular and widely sold products, a competitive advantage will almost surely collapse theirs industrial basis and with it the finalcial lever and political influence that those nations can exert in the international arena.

Vann7 wrote:So those here in the forum crossing their fingers ,that american economy collapse.. to celebrate it..
"As the end of the American empire" , will be for a major hard awakening reality , that is not the US petro dollar
what give US is leadership position in the world.. but its Business lead.. what do it.. is not a question of how much paper money they have.. but who they are , and what they can offer the world with their bussiness.
so will come again to laugh in the face ,of everyone in this forum ,who believed US system will end with the
collapse of the dollar as reserve currency.. . not going to happen. they will create another currency ,likely digital
and it will continue ruling the world. so later don't say i didn't warned it.. US central banks are even speaking
about a reset of world debt.. lol1 so what the fools in this forums ,cheerleaders of putin will say.. when the dollar bubble argument ends? and shows how stupid Putin is ,trying to break the petro dollar system ,without touching the US business leadership? A growing the economy strategy ,as Putin wants without progress ,without
modern business economy will not work.. because completely ignores ,to challenge the very same things
US use to lure nations into their orbit.

Vann7 i understand perfectly the psycological basis and approach of your provocation actions here (someone would say trolling but this term is not suited for what you do here.....); what i find paradoxically funny, in a unique way, is how much long term plans of our hated (or i should say feared ?) President В. В. Путин collimate perfecty, in the reality not behind a PC keyboard, just with your attacks and accusations to its politics.

If you truly would realize how things are developing in the real world ,behind the curtain, your aptitude at half-innuendo and crypto-provocations will rapidly degrade toward fearing silence......

Vann7 wrote:

Austin wrote:Coronavirus is the pin that burst U.S. economy's bubble, says analyst who predicted 2008 crash

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-us-economy-collapse-recession

Corona can burst the bubble..and sink russia gold reserves at same time , but it doesn't end US empire and is influence and its system.. because the system is not under challenge if they can continue having no competition
in their leading modern business...  

So they can create another bubble , even if it is smaller ,they can continue creating bubbles forever..
nothing stop them from creating another one..

Not really , They have to be in some parallel universe where they can keep creating bubbles , print money till eternity.
Laws of economics will take over and they will have run away inflation.

You really dont need to have an existing challenger so that he can take over incumbent , The challenger will arise once the existing incumbent implodes.

Russia has a small economy but it is a sound one ,it has technical manpower and abundant resources to feed its people and allies. The Gold reserves of Russia at around 2.4K is good and it has existing reserve base of 12K Ton.

Most importantly the will of Russian people to fight when chips are down is far higher then american or European or Chinese as WW2 has shown and even the recent sanctions.

With Russsian People the proverb holds true "When Going Gets Tough , The Tough gets Going"

https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1239642099173163009

Russia's economy is not small. At the same time the US economy is grossly overinflated. So even a PPP adjustment is not
covering the actual gap. Every ass-crack backwater in the USA is supposedly richer than downtown Moscow. Yeah, right.
I have seen enough of the Canadian and US hinterland to know how "rich" life there is.

A primary way that the US GDP is overinflated is that all offshore activity of its trans-nationals is considered essentially part
of the US GDP. This is BS since such activity contributes to offshore GDP and not US GDP. The profits of those companies
that go back to the USA are the only real stimulus the US GDP sees. Another scam is the so-called financial industry.
This involves the shuffling of debt and assorted ponzi rackets that contributes zero to the actual US GDP but is counted
as 54% of the total. The US GDP is an accounting scam.

kvs wrote:Russia's economy is not small. At the same time the US economy is grossly overinflated. So even a PPP adjustment is not
covering the actual gap. Every ass-crack backwater in the USA is supposedly richer than downtown Moscow. Yeah, right.
I have seen enough of the Canadian and US hinterland to know how "rich" life there is.

A primary way that the US GDP is overinflated is that all offshore activity of its trans-nationals is considered essentially part
of the US GDP. This is BS since such activity contributes to offshore GDP and not US GDP. The profits of those companies
that go back to the USA are the only real stimulus the US GDP sees. Another scam is the so-called financial industry.
This involves the shuffling of debt and assorted ponzi rackets that contributes zero to the actual US GDP but is counted
as 54% of the total. The US GDP is an accounting scam.

Correct , So are their inflation figures much higher then what they claim it to be.

Now they are coming with $1 trillion stimulus to save their economy !

Mindstorm wrote:
Vann7 i understand perfectly the psycological basis and approach of your provocation actions here (someone would say trolling but this term is not suited for what you do here.....); what i find paradoxically funny, in a unique way, is how much long term plans of our hated (or i should say feared ?) President В. В. Путин collimate perfecty, in the reality not behind a PC keyboard, just with your attacks and accusations to its politics.

If you truly would realize how things are developing in the real world ,behind the curtain, your aptitude at half-innuendo and crypto-provocations will rapidly degrade toward fearing silence......

I see things differently.. as trying to discuss something with 5years old graders.. idiots to the core...
so bad is ,that it makes me thing if they are as stupid as they talk ... or if they are paid trolls to deviate
the attention of the real issues Russia have.

What i notice on this forums is that..

1) People here don't see a connection between international politics and economy.. they talk about economy as if it was separated from politics.. which is so wrong.. you can have the world best economist , running the Russian economy and they all will miserably fail ,if they don't take into account the politics behind economy.. they are connected.  

2) Their lack of understanding  of how hopeless is Russia , versus the west.. Putin have not a chance in a million
to save Russia.. if all that the moron does ,to defend Russia interest is build better military. i understand how the west think , how latins ,europeans and american think ,because of friends and because so many forums ,i used
to visit. The only thing Putin is doing.. is promoting a slow and painful death of his country.. he have no strategy
to counter his enemies..  look all those frozen conflicts . he have created..  so many to mention. people don't understand that Russia enemies can continue creating conflicts and wars around russia to weaken it.. and distabilize it.. they can do the same thing they did in ukraine in belarus.. and in kazakistan too.. Putin's Russia
all is doing is losing influence across all bordering nations and he don't know how to fight back.

3) the problems are always the same.. you don't solve problems ignoring them.. US is at war with Russia. period.
is slow war.. but is war.. And putin is doing nothing to end this aggression..and russian soldiers die and the main target is Russia economy. to give you an example.. Garryb used to tell me "how no one will dare to attack Russia ,because is a nuclear superpower" ..  and this is the kind of ignorance , that i had to argue all the time.

4)US creates the rules of the way economy is done in the world.. and they can change it at will.. Russia ending the use of dollar will NOT stop US in any way ,shape or form.. Putin targets a symbol ,which is the dollar ,but don't target ,the trust , that the world have have over american business.. don't challenge the US economy.
the US energy industry is merely 5% of american economy..     compare that to Russian budget than near half of it.. come from its energy sales profits..

5)Putin talks about diversifying the economy..  but what he does is so little ,so small..  and diversifying the economy ,without a real strategy is waste of time.. look what will happen to putin olympic dream after this
corona virus attack..    nobody will want to travel know.. tourism and sports business ,will be the biggest losers in the next decade.. a place that putin have invested a fortune.. from sochi to world cup 2018.. all that money throw to the garbage can.. because he will never recover the money he invested there.  

6)finally people in this forum ignores ,that you can't run a nation economy , develop a nation economy in the same way ,when is at war..versus at peace..  Any strategy in Russia ,economic development ,will have to take
into account ,that US is at war with Russia..and that if Russia plans to diversity by selling potatoes.. or bananas
that americans will target those business , by promoting everyone in the world to farm potatoes and bananas.. ,  because Putin runs the economy in the most lazy way possible.. he makes it easy for the west to target it.. instead of moving to business that are very advanced and modern , that very few or no other can compete ,they seek to break Russia exactly as they did to soviet union , same script..with some other creativity.. they break soviet union ,targeting oil too.. and creating conflicts that later Russia was forced to interfere.. check.. afghanista in the past.. today is syria and ukraine.. and they can continue doing this forever.. and this is a huge problem..Putin  can't continue playing this games forever.. ignoring the west declared war on them..targeting all its allies  and Putin behaving like nothing have happened.calling for "Restoring relations " thinking that if he ask politely.. the west will do it..    is not the west that needs to come to is senses.. but Putin is the one.. that needs to come back to someone else senses.. because he have none. Russia needs to fight back at its enemies.. starting a world war 3.. or world war 4.. is foolish.. but he can fight back with business and he don't do it.. because he is clueless of what he is doing..  Russia face an identity crisis ,a leadership crisis  ,and Putin is the one to blame for it..because he looks to the russian empire past ,in order for guidance ,how to develop the nation ,instead of creating Russia in a completely new ,different and modern way.. Putin even needs to micro manage everything.. a clear signal.. he is a bad manager.. is a leadership problem.. People blame medvedev and so called "Traitors" that are in Russian government ,forgetting
that is putin ,who placed them in that place.. They blame the central bank naibullina ,but forget putin placed her there.. simply this forums is full of dishonest people ,and trolls too, in denial of how mediocre is Putin as a leader.. the soviets did understood leadership better.. they at least did compete in space and was leading there.. and created an education revolution in Russia ,that still today Russia benefit from it..,their problem however is they did not watched their spending in the arms race..and fall on the traps.. that US setup like afghanistan war was.. soviets neither understood soft power well , how important is to develop a superior culture ,that their adversaries..

look for example what is happening in syria..
that war can last forever , Russia rebuild their cities and NATO backed forces will destroy it once rebuild..
so it way more expensive to rebuild things ,than to destroy it..  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESq2vdIR6Y

so russia will have to feed syrians forever from their own budget ,give weapons for free from russian budget
and provide food and oil for free ,as long NATO continues supporting their terrorist forces. the same for venezuela.. they can continue targeting their power plants forever and russia will have to provide money to
rebuild them.. same in ukraine.. same with cuba..  Americans can forever continue creating endless wars on nations close to russia ,that will little by little pressure and drain russia economy..  This passiveness of putin ,is what hold back Russia. he is slapped in the face and he don't fight back..he turns the other cheek.    he needs to fight back.. and needs to pressure US economy to stop their hostilities , is that simple.. and ending russia use of dollars is a lame ,attempt to do that.. even china is buying more dollars.. depends a lot on business with US. the only way Russia can stop ,the western aggression is with business power by taking the world leadership away from US, and directly counter US most popular silicon valley business those business that US can use to drive new generations society in the world towards their unfair system..

even serbia.. that is a Russian ally.. his president , told recently.. with tearful eyes ,
only china can help serbia..  



So who the hell needs Russia in the world ,when not even its major allies , ask them for help ?  
and if this the way putin expect to convince the world to join Russia side in confrontation with US  ?  

Chinese having a reception like heroes in Serbia.. the serbian leader even kiss the chinese flag..



if anyone had doubts how weak and irrelevant Russia have become the master of incompetence Putin.
then those 2 videos should clarify it.. venezuela maduro's just yesterday was asking the IMF for a loan help to help fight the corona virus..    a venezuela is attacked for being a Russian ally.. now maduro knows it was a
mistake to follow putin.. his nation is in pieces his economy and Russia can't help.


if this is not a major embarrassing for Putin and Russia ,then no idea what is..
China is the only nation in the world ,challenging the US leadership in the world and hurting and slowing
down the US influence in the world..and is doing that alone.  Putin's Russia is not even properly helping its own allies.. how can anyone follows putin's world ,when he abandon his own allies in difficult times or not properly defend them as is the case of syria and eastern ukraine? or venezuela     Anyone country in the world ,that see how weak is Putin and Russia ,will think a thousand  times ,before following Russia , knowing is a dead sentence ,to become an ally of Russia..  Russia have shown again and again.. it can't properly defend its allies.. is very weak..and so nations will stay away from it..US and israel can bomb to their heart content.. any Russian ally ,and putin will do nothing.     Europe will never listen putin ,when he is a weak leader ,and his country can't even defend itself from US sanctions , all this is what putin have created by following the US system.. instead
of creating its own.. as China is slowly but steadily doing..   Russia face the problems it have ,because of putin's 20 years short sight policies of developing russia mostly as a gas station and energy producers.. where most money of russian budget is invested.. and not challenging US modern economy in the world.

Russia needs true independence.. from the western system , US have created.. and Business Leadership in the
world development. those things are the only ones ,that will allow Russia to defend its interest in the world ,
when create its own system or help china in creating one.. not just sit there in back seat and do nothing. other
that resisting US hostilities ,but not fighting back.

Russia needs to get rid of that obsolete and disastrous president like  Putin is and replace him for president Xi Jinping .  




The chinese president understand very well leadership ,how to fight US system and putin the only thing
he understand is how to humiliate himself and embarrass his entire nation , with how weak ,insecure
and outdated that idiot is. The chinesse president is not bragging about nukes or hypersonic weapons they have
,to try to impress the west, he just quietly works , building successful business ,creating leading business
that under radar ,put under siege the US high tech industry..  

since i have no hopes with Russia to ever grow for real ,with putin there... ,honestly the best thing that could happen to Russia and for the entire planet.. is a major revolution to get rid of putin , and that Russia federation becomes a republic of china , or create a sinoRuss federation ,two nations in one system ,a bit similar to a new soviet union but with china included as a lealding role and give them access of the only thing russia had in advantage that is its nukes.. and some few other weapons that way china will have a tremendous land to grow and expand ,and relocate its capital all the way to european borders.. and the energy resources of russia ,be all for china new expansion and economic growth. this will make it easy for europe to integrate and join this new system ,taiwan will join on this system too.. if europe is there.  and south korea likely too..  kazakistan will say me too..  a new soviet union , with russia and china integration as one nation.. english can be used as the official language of the new system.. and russian/chinesse only used domestic use in respective land.Very Radical but that can work ,new ideas will be need to stop the madness of the american empire.. is now using biological weapons.. to target adversaries.. and putin only delays things.. don't represent a solution.

Eric Martin
@EMPosts
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard predicted the U.S. unemployment rate may hit 30% in the second quarter because of shutdowns to combat the coronavirus, with an unprecedented 50% drop in gross domestic product.

Staggering numbers

https://twitter.com/EMPosts/status/1241816401893117958

Corona can burst the bubble..and sink russia gold reserves at same time , but it doesn't end US empire and is influence and its system.. because the system is not under challenge if they can continue having no competition
in their leading modern business...

yeah vann you are proving you are an idiot here... the whole point of gold is its value... unlike US dollars that are just ink dots printed on paper...

HiIlary couldn't organise an orgy in a whore house... Trump has pretty much implemented most things Hillary did, the main difference would be Iran would still be trading with the west and buying Boeings and Air busses and not giving Russia the time of day except in Syria, but I suspect Venezuela would still be on the agenda for regime change... the US would not have been so nice to Yahoo who would probably be in jail now, but who knows what the alternative leader of the jooz would be like.... more or less active in Syria and Iran? Who knows... who cares... it is pointless speculation.

Fortunately Russia is in good shape compared with most countries in Europe and is sending aid to selected countries rather than stealing it enroute like some countries in europe.

Russia is sending help to Venezuela and Iran and Italy and other countries as well... unlike western countries who are hunkering down and closing their borders....

Hopefully the US sees all this and becomes enraged with jealousy... they are supposed to be the good guys... more sanctions for Russia... good for Russia I say.

Vann7 wrote:...if anyone had doubts how weak and irrelevant Russia...

Vann, just because Russia is looking after their own well-being and doing what's​ good for them instead of dumb stupid shit that you want them to do doesn't mean that they are irrelevant

It just means that you and whoever you support are irrelevant

Vann7 wrote:

Also about China helping Serbia:

1) Back when Wuhan first started last year we sent them aid right away, it was drop in a bucket compared to what they needed but still more than anyone​ else sent

2) We asked them for help

Who knew that being friends with 1,7 billion people had some upsides to it, eh?

You sent aide to them and they are sending aide to you... shows a bit of character on both sides... 5 years ago an American would claim it would only be America helping others in such troubling times, but it seems when the going gets tough morality and ethics are the first things the west puts under sanction...

GarryB wrote:You sent aide to them and they are sending aide to you... shows a bit of character on both sides... 5 years ago an American would claim it would only be America helping others in such troubling times, but it seems when the going gets tough morality and ethics are the first things the west puts under sanction...

True...  consider the disgusting spectacle of the US doubling-down on sanctions to stop the importation of medical equipment and drugs into Iran to fight COVID-19.

Cuz nothing will win over the hearts and minds of the Iranian people more than exacerbating a lethal pandemic in their country and killing thousands of ordinary people...  Stupid & evil Murican cunts...

Big_Gazza wrote:

GarryB wrote:You sent aide to them and they are sending aide to you... shows a bit of character on both sides... 5 years ago an American would claim it would only be America helping others in such troubling times, but it seems when the going gets tough morality and ethics are the first things the west puts under sanction...

True...  consider the disgusting spectacle of the US doubling-down on sanctions to stop the importation of medical equipment and drugs into Iran to fight COVID-19.

Cuz nothing will win over the hearts and minds of the Iranian people more than exacerbating a lethal pandemic in their country and killing thousands of ordinary people...  Stupid & evil Murican cunts...

Well, in fairness they did drop two atomic bombs on Japanese cities and the Japanese having stopped kissing American a** ever since.

calripson wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:

GarryB wrote:You sent aide to them and they are sending aide to you... shows a bit of character on both sides... 5 years ago an American would claim it would only be America helping others in such troubling times, but it seems when the going gets tough morality and ethics are the first things the west puts under sanction...

True...  consider the disgusting spectacle of the US doubling-down on sanctions to stop the importation of medical equipment and drugs into Iran to fight COVID-19.

Cuz nothing will win over the hearts and minds of the Iranian people more than exacerbating a lethal pandemic in their country and killing thousands of ordinary people...  Stupid & evil Murican cunts...

Well, in fairness they did drop two atomic bombs on Japanese cities and the Japanese having stopped kissing American a** ever since.

This demonstrates the true nature of power and government. The US succeed attaching Japanese elites to its market as it has with many other
cases as in Latin America. These elites keep the population down one way or another. In Japan it is basically one-party rule and high level of
development. In Latin America it was death squad juntas.

The fact that the USA cannot co-opt Russian elites is rather special. Russia is not some second rate power to the USA. No matter how much
Americans delude themselves that it is. The pattern with China was predictable as well. The Central Kingdom with 3+ thousand years of history
and one of the civilization poles of the planet was not going to turn into a banana republic to please white devils. Those white devils just lucked
out during the 1800s and early 1900s by China's internal disarray. Rather like tends to be the case with Russia.

Russia lost $30 billions in gold reservers in one week.. dealing with perfect attack on its economy
from oil war prices and covid19..  


Sinking global economy & cheap crude take big bite out of Russia’s forex reserves


https://www.rt.com/business/484229-russia-forex-reserves-fall/

at the same time US will be printing 2 Trillion dollars in fake money and
nobody blink ,this is the advantage of being the leader of the system that controls
the rules of the world economy...

So how is putin de-dolarization project going ? did he finally stopped the US economy?

This is what i was saying.. you can't win in a system ,that was designed to benefit the creators
of it.. and damage adversaries , US will never collapse its economy as long they lead in business
and control most other nations that leads world development .. .. US can print forever money and the world will continue supporting the dollar ,all they need is send their warships and get their armed drones to fly
over their capital ..as ask them if they will cooperate or not. with their system.

at this rate Russia will be wasting 300 billions per year..in the covid19 event alone.. add another 300 billions
dollars they waste in syria..as bodyguards free job , and all that gold saving wasted for nothing.
tourism will not return anytime soon to Russia in the next years ,US government is already saying viruses like covid19 could become seasonal and return every year ,even if covid19 defeated.. what they are saying is telling adversaries that bio attack will continue..  . so all those pretty expensive parks of putin and those olympic investments will go down the toilet..    good job putin.  how the moron wasted more than $60 billions in
a business model that will have now no future.. those bio warfare attacks will not end anytime soon.. russia
economy will not be surprising if collapse in just 3-5  years..and all those gold reserves wasted,
with that idiot in power ,because if outdated economic model..

Meanwhile american modern business industry are the big winners in this corona virus.. amazon sales are skyrocketing ,youtube and american social media advertising too ,and its entertainment industry the major form of entertainment for people locked in their houses.

Rockefeller foundation papers.. made it clear ,they intent to target
all the business , that by coincidence Putin was developing for Russia economy.  

1)Biological virus attacks ,to target tourism and sports and outside activities.
2) green energy revolution to target permanently oil prices... a permanent war on oil..  
3) attacks on the food farming industry ,probably  with insects plagues ,they working  
4) and when putin get a clue ,it needs to modernize its economy.. they will invest
  a lot in hacking world wide computers , more reasons for the moron ,to end Russia dependence
   on the american internet and american computers.. and create his own internet and own personal
computers.. that defeat the western tech..

there is a major eye opening list.. that revealed who controls the american economy..
and who likely controls american foreign policy..it turned out to be jews super billionaires control it..
it was very eye opening , how the same investors that controls for example intel shares.. control amd shares.. control ford ,control wallmart ,control google.. control..

so a group of major shareholders a several dozenss of super billionaires.. what they are doing ,is they
literary own ,every major high tech business in US .. and all of them combined controls the company.
and its competition too.. so they never lose.. because they x business and all its competion too..
those super rich investors companies... not only controls US high tech industry. but also controls hollywood too
and control US military defense industry .

INTEL
Top 10 Owners of Intel Corp

The Vanguard Group, Inc. 8.27% 353,707,614 19,637,846,729 -2,665,860 -0.75%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.82% 206,243,689 11,450,649,613 +1,501,465 +0.73%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.53% 193,838,859 10,761,933,452 -1,271,284 -0.65%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 3.33% 142,522,918 7,912,872,407 +1,323,789 +0.94%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.61% 69,030,997 3,832,600,953 +904,426 +1.33%
Wellington Management Co. LLP 1.56% 66,859,670 3,712,048,878 -1,877,496 -2.73%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.35% 57,569,290 3,196,246,981 -2,377,752 -3.97%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 1.34% 57,239,496 3,177,936,818 -3,990,794 -6.52%
Dimensional Fund Advisors LP

Apple
Top 10 Owners of Apple Inc
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 7.36% 321,838,023 87,977,641,967 -2,907,431 -0.90%
Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. (Investm... 5.60% 245,155,566 67,015,725,522 -3,683,113 -1.48%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.34% 189,855,411 51,898,875,151 -1,466,944 -0.77%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.18% 182,854,781 49,985,182,934 -1,377,664 -0.75%
Fidelity Management & Research Co... 2.02% 88,533,508 24,201,519,747 -1,152,613 -1.29%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.43% 62,482,090 17,080,104,122 +789,746 +1.28%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.26% 55,032,139 15,043,585,517 -663,154 -1.19%
T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (I... 1.18% 51,779,477 14,154,437,833 +27,080,346 +109.64%
Norges Bank Investment Management 1.07% 46,856,273 12,808,630,787 -692,563 -1.46%
BlackRock Investment Management (...


IBM
Top 10 Owners of International Business Machines Corp
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 8.09% 71,905,855 9,358,547,028 +965,615 +1.36%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 6.13% 54,493,784 7,092,365,988 +633,709 +1.18%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.97% 44,200,416 5,752,684,142 +569,211 +1.30%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.45% 12,840,068 1,671,134,850 +393,608 +3.16%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.24% 11,052,933 1,438,539,230 -709,648 -6.03%
Norges Bank Investment Management 1.01% 8,981,778 1,168,978,407 +258,037 +2.96%
Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC (... 0.92% 8,140,516 1,059,488,157 -59,091 -0.72%
Charles Schwab Investment Managem... 0.85% 7,577,104 986,160,086 +94,343 +1.26%
BlackRock Investment Management (... 0.80% 7,078,401 921,253,890 +108,279 +1.55%
Columbia Management Investment Ad.

Boeing
Top 10 Owners of Boeing Co
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 7.08% 39,894,932 10,975,494,743 +59,393 +0.15%
Newport Trust Co. 5.45% 30,713,384 8,449,559,072 +222,115 +0.73%
T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (I... 5.32% 29,951,097 8,239,846,296 -9,646,478 -24.36%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 4.72% 26,557,559 7,306,250,056 +3,799,008 +16.69%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.67% 26,302,874 7,236,183,666 +181,667 +0.70%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.62% 25,995,063 7,151,501,782 +329,224 +1.28%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 1.77% 9,965,633 2,741,645,295 -1,281,646 -11.40%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.27% 7,179,440 1,975,135,738 +187,514 +2.68%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.02% 5,761,259 1,584,979,963 -34,286 -0.59%
Janus Capital Management LLC

if you see the same investors.. again and again repeating.. as owners of american top business
this is not coincidence american economy is run by a small groups of super billionaires..
that invest their moneys in the top business.. this are likely the head of the snake....that runs US foreign policy ,
and that putin needs to compete if he wants to have a chance ,to save Russia..  probably they all belong
to same rockefellers or rothchild families.. or cousins.  so a group of 33 families if the rumors turn to be right
controls US politics and foreign policy and UK and Israel too. all those investors.. that the idiot putin welcomes
to invest in Russia ,are the ones he needs to target.. and their business the ones Russia needs to defeat
if wants to break the US system.

The business that more have benefit from coronavirus? ... Jeff Bezos... AMAZON.

https://www.rt.com/business/484230-bezos-coronavirus-outbreak-winner/

not surprisingly in china the biggest winner is alibaba.. digital online business is an example
of companies that will lead the world.. economies. Russia needs a digital economy revolution ,
combined with a space industry revolution.

More example of Vann7 reading yet not understanding....

Lets return to this topic when the US house-of-cards economy finally collapses from an unsustainable debt burden and international confidence in the USD evaporates. You can't print your way to prosperity, or eat "1"s and "0"s encoded onto magnetic media in computers...

Russia lost $30 billions in gold reservers in one week.. dealing with perfect attack on its economy
from oil war prices and covid19..

Bullshit. They didn't LOSE anything.

They have gold reserves for difficult times WTF do you think this is?

The US overtakes all other countries and becomes the epicentre of the virus by passing 100K cases of the virus... why didn't you talk about the economic implications of that... the US doesn't need gold reserves because it just prints money... gold will run out before paper and ink right?

https://www.rt.com/uk/484332-coronavirus-us-record-cases/

The value of the gold reserves were depressed by western market manipulation. The gold is still there and wont go anywhere.

Hole wrote:The value of the gold reserves were depressed by western market manipulation. The gold is still there and wont go anywhere.

This is a critical detail. The price of gold and oil are being kept artificially low to serve Washington's imperial agenda.
In the case of the fracked oil, the price being too low is bad for the USA but then it can always print more money and
issue "venture capital" debt to prop up this part of its oil industry.

By any accepted wisdom on market dynamics, gold cannot be cheap since it is in super high demand perpetually and
is in short supply. But market speculators can impose inane criteria on its price to make it artificially cheap. The
same BS is applied to oil where US gasoline stocks control the oil price. Oil is a depleting resource (yes, really,
Green River kerogen deposits are not oil and there isn't even a prototype process to extract them and convert
them to oil) and is also in high demand aside from exogenous shocks like corona virus. So US gasoline stocks
mean f*ck all to the price of crude oil.

kvs wrote:

Hole wrote:The value of the gold reserves were depressed by western market manipulation. The gold is still there and wont go anywhere.

This is a critical detail.   The price of gold and oil are being kept artificially low to serve Washington's imperial agenda.
In the case of the fracked oil, the price being too low is bad for the USA but then it can always print more money and
issue "venture capital" debt to prop up this part of its oil industry.  

By any accepted wisdom on market dynamics, gold cannot be cheap since it is in super high demand perpetually and
is in short supply.   But market speculators can impose inane criteria on its price to make it artificially cheap.   The
same BS is applied to oil where US gasoline stocks control the oil price.   Oil is a depleting resource (yes, really,
Green River kerogen deposits are not oil and there isn't even a prototype process to extract them and convert
them to oil) and is also in high demand aside from exogenous shocks like corona virus.   So US gasoline stocks
mean f*ck all to the price of crude oil.

The London Gold Fixing (or Gold Fix)[1] is the setting of the price of gold that takes place via a dedicated conference line. It was formerly held on the premises of Nathan Mayer Rothschild & Sons by the members of The London Gold Market Fixing Ltd.
The benchmark is determined twice each business day of the London bullion market (the exceptions to this being Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve when there is only one fixing in the morning). It is designed to fix a price for settling contracts between members of the London bullion market, but the gold fixing informally provides a recognized rate that is used as a benchmark for pricing the majority of gold products and derivatives throughout the world's markets. The gold fix is conducted in the United States dollar (USD), the Pound sterling (GBP), and the Euro (EUR) daily at 10:30AM and 3PM, London time.
The current participants in the fixing are Barclays, the Bank of China, Bank of Communications, Goldman Sachs, HSBC Bank USA, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Société Générale, Standard Chartered, ScotiaMocatta (Scotiabank), the Toronto-Dominion Bank, and UBS.[2]


The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Vann7 wrote:Russia lost $30 billions in gold reservers in one week.. dealing with perfect attack on its economy
from oil war prices and covid19..  


Sinking global economy & cheap crude take big bite out of Russia’s forex reserves


https://www.rt.com/business/484229-russia-forex-reserves-fall/

at the same time US will be printing 2 Trillion dollars in fake money and
nobody blink ,this is the advantage of being the leader of the system that controls
the rules of the world economy...

So how is putin de-dolarization project going ? did he finally stopped the US economy?

This is what i was saying.. you can't win in a system ,that was designed to benefit the creators
of it.. and damage adversaries , US will never collapse its economy as long they lead in business
and control most other nations that leads world development .. .. US can print forever money and the world will continue supporting the dollar ,all they need is send their warships and get their armed drones to fly
over their capital ..as ask them if they will cooperate or not. with their system.

at this rate Russia will be wasting 300 billions per year..in the covid19 event alone.. add another 300 billions
dollars they waste in syria..as bodyguards free job , and all that gold saving wasted for nothing.
tourism will not return anytime soon to Russia in the next years ,US government is already saying viruses like covid19 could become seasonal and return every year ,even if covid19 defeated.. what they are saying is telling adversaries that bio attack will continue..  . so all those pretty expensive parks of putin and those olympic investments will go down the toilet..    good job putin.  how the moron wasted more than $60 billions in
a business model that will have now no future.. those bio warfare attacks will not end anytime soon.. russia
economy will not be surprising if collapse in just 3-5  years..and all those gold reserves wasted,
with that idiot in power ,because if outdated economic model..

Meanwhile american modern business industry are the big winners in this corona virus.. amazon sales are skyrocketing ,youtube and american social media advertising too ,and its entertainment industry the major form of entertainment for people locked in their houses.

Rockefeller foundation papers.. made it clear ,they intent to target
all the business , that by coincidence Putin was developing for Russia economy.  

1)Biological virus attacks ,to target tourism and sports and outside activities.
2) green energy revolution to target permanently oil prices... a permanent war on oil..  
3) attacks on the food farming industry ,probably  with insects plagues ,they working  
4) and when putin get a clue ,it needs to modernize its economy.. they will invest
  a lot in hacking world wide computers , more reasons for the moron ,to end Russia dependence
   on the american internet and american computers.. and create his own internet and own personal
computers.. that defeat the western tech..

there is a major eye opening list.. that revealed who controls the american economy..
and who likely controls american foreign policy..it turned out to be jews super billionaires control it..
it was very eye opening , how the same investors that controls for example intel shares.. control amd shares.. control ford ,control wallmart ,control google.. control..

so a group of major shareholders a several dozenss of super billionaires.. what they are doing ,is they
literary own ,every major high tech business in US .. and all of them combined controls the company.
and its competition too.. so they never lose.. because they x business and all its competion too..
those super rich investors companies... not only controls US high tech industry. but also controls hollywood too
and control US military defense industry .

INTEL
Top 10 Owners of Intel Corp

The Vanguard Group, Inc. 8.27% 353,707,614 19,637,846,729 -2,665,860 -0.75%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.82% 206,243,689 11,450,649,613 +1,501,465 +0.73%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.53% 193,838,859 10,761,933,452 -1,271,284 -0.65%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 3.33% 142,522,918 7,912,872,407 +1,323,789 +0.94%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.61% 69,030,997 3,832,600,953 +904,426 +1.33%
Wellington Management Co. LLP 1.56% 66,859,670 3,712,048,878 -1,877,496 -2.73%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.35% 57,569,290 3,196,246,981 -2,377,752 -3.97%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 1.34% 57,239,496 3,177,936,818 -3,990,794 -6.52%
Dimensional Fund Advisors LP

Apple
Top 10 Owners of Apple Inc
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 7.36% 321,838,023 87,977,641,967 -2,907,431 -0.90%
Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. (Investm... 5.60% 245,155,566 67,015,725,522 -3,683,113 -1.48%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.34% 189,855,411 51,898,875,151 -1,466,944 -0.77%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.18% 182,854,781 49,985,182,934 -1,377,664 -0.75%
Fidelity Management & Research Co... 2.02% 88,533,508 24,201,519,747 -1,152,613 -1.29%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.43% 62,482,090 17,080,104,122 +789,746 +1.28%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.26% 55,032,139 15,043,585,517 -663,154 -1.19%
T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (I... 1.18% 51,779,477 14,154,437,833 +27,080,346 +109.64%
Norges Bank Investment Management 1.07% 46,856,273 12,808,630,787 -692,563 -1.46%
BlackRock Investment Management (...


IBM
Top 10 Owners of International Business Machines Corp
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 8.09% 71,905,855 9,358,547,028 +965,615 +1.36%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 6.13% 54,493,784 7,092,365,988 +633,709 +1.18%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.97% 44,200,416 5,752,684,142 +569,211 +1.30%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.45% 12,840,068 1,671,134,850 +393,608 +3.16%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.24% 11,052,933 1,438,539,230 -709,648 -6.03%
Norges Bank Investment Management 1.01% 8,981,778 1,168,978,407 +258,037 +2.96%
Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC (... 0.92% 8,140,516 1,059,488,157 -59,091 -0.72%
Charles Schwab Investment Managem... 0.85% 7,577,104 986,160,086 +94,343 +1.26%
BlackRock Investment Management (... 0.80% 7,078,401 921,253,890 +108,279 +1.55%
Columbia Management Investment Ad.

Boeing
Top 10 Owners of Boeing Co
Stockholder Stake Shares
owned Total value ($) Shares
bought / sold Total
change
The Vanguard Group, Inc. 7.08% 39,894,932 10,975,494,743 +59,393 +0.15%
Newport Trust Co. 5.45% 30,713,384 8,449,559,072 +222,115 +0.73%
T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (I... 5.32% 29,951,097 8,239,846,296 -9,646,478 -24.36%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 4.72% 26,557,559 7,306,250,056 +3,799,008 +16.69%
SSgA Funds Management, Inc. 4.67% 26,302,874 7,236,183,666 +181,667 +0.70%
BlackRock Fund Advisors 4.62% 25,995,063 7,151,501,782 +329,224 +1.28%
Capital Research & Management Co.... 1.77% 9,965,633 2,741,645,295 -1,281,646 -11.40%
Geode Capital Management LLC 1.27% 7,179,440 1,975,135,738 +187,514 +2.68%
Northern Trust Investments, Inc.(... 1.02% 5,761,259 1,584,979,963 -34,286 -0.59%
Janus Capital Management LLC

if you see the same investors.. again and again repeating.. as owners of american top business
this is not coincidence american economy is run by a small groups of super billionaires..
that invest their moneys in the top business.. this are likely the head of the snake....that runs US foreign policy ,
and that putin needs to compete if he wants to have a chance ,to save Russia..  probably they all belong
to same rockefellers or rothchild families.. or cousins.  so a group of 33 families if the rumors turn to be right
controls US politics and foreign policy and UK and Israel too. all those investors.. that the idiot putin welcomes
to invest in Russia ,are the ones he needs to target.. and their business the ones Russia needs to defeat
if wants to break the US system.

The business that more have benefit from coronavirus? ... Jeff Bezos... AMAZON.

https://www.rt.com/business/484230-bezos-coronavirus-outbreak-winner/

not surprisingly in china the biggest winner is alibaba.. digital online business is an example
of companies that will lead the world.. economies.  Russia needs a digital economy revolution ,
combined with a space industry revolution.

Not gold reserves, foreign currency reserves of which gold is a part. Also, those "billionaires" you list as owners are assets management firms holding assets of millions of individuals and entities. You would have to drill down much further to identify the "billionaires". The real "billionaires" are actually as families "trillionaires" and their assets would be spread via thousands of entities with beneficial ownership structures primarily in the British Commonwealth domiciled "offshore" system which holds an estimated $24 trillion in assets.

hopefully this is true..
China is going directly to the neck of the american empire and its business world  

New Internet Architecture? Huawei Rolls Out Fresh IP Proposal – Report  

https://sputniknews.com/science/202003281078738553-new-internet-architecture-huawei-rolls-out-fresh-ip-proposal-report/


If only xi jingpin was the Russian president.. long time ago ,the corrupt western world will be over.
Business leadership of china and russia in the planet will have forced them too cooperate if don't want
to become isolated from the world... because europe will have jumped ship and so asia.. to the new
internet.. this will be the major blow to the american economy..to amazon ,google ,ebusiness..online cable..

China is the only nation that is fighting back..to restore world order..  Russia under Putin is only encouraging the western system to continue its abuse of their power.


this is how you stop the american empire and its bullying over the world..

from the the comments section..

@Rokenbok

It looks like Huawei is leading the future of technology and leaving the USA in a hole. This type of advancement will rip everything apart that the US has done over the past 20 years..., spying, back doors and listening in on everyone’s calls and internet activity. By the way the new 5G phone beats apples hand down

gungadin
12:35 GMT 28.03.2020 | 5
On how to corner the US. Be better , be faster , be smarter and invest the money to back it up. I'm afraid, the only thing the Americans will have left are Hollywood and Starbuck and these two crow jewels are already in their way to be bought by the people who built the American railroads. Mainly the Chinese. What goes up must come down , according to Newton.

edover3
14:09 GMT 28.03.2020 | 4
US hosts global DNS servers, and won't let them be placed in any other country. It uses US-based tech services, software and hardware makers to spy on the world. Yet, it keeps on whining about China. US has egg on its face.

Even people everywhere else see it clearly.. what it takes to bring down the unfair US sytem..
be better ,be faster ,be smarter .. what is that if not to be a leader. Russia needs leadership ,
business leadership in the things that more influence society ,specially the most developed countries.
but is not 20 years.. what china is risking US to lose... but 30 years.. actually.. its an entire infrastructure
and many business connected in place.. US elites could see that as a full declaration of war..
US is only 3 business away of losing their world lead ,and business empire..

1) Apple (already in check)
2) Microsoft..
3) Intel
4) 5G (already in check)
5) internet.

dominating in communications ,computers ,AI and software applications is like a winning a game with a home run with full base loaded. US system will not work ,if the world no longer follows their high tech industry . is that simple. Not even US banking industry and US sanctions will be possible , if the communications are encrypted
and not longer they can spy on them.