Hole wrote:
Im glad ,that you just posted that , because i already explained that ,
So will show you how pointless are those numbers
for today Russia development.
When Putin reach power as prime minister in 2019 and President in 2000 . Lets take a look at the things was happening with Russia in 2000 .
-Russia already was facing a major huge war with chechenia ,the only thing
that matters was security , and there was long lines for food .
-Seven Banks controlled Russia economy. All of them where Pro NATO and pro disintegration
of Russia. (read this from a pro Russian website .
https://russia-insider.com/en
-oil prices was rock button , about $20 to $30 dollars
-majority of the Russian industry collapsed after the split of soviet union ,and the defense industry
nearly collapse , the tank factories bankrupt and american private companies owned many industries
in russia critical for Russia defense industry , basically intended to block Russia from modernizing its military.
-The oil industry and natural gas industry and banking industry ,was all in the hands of navalny like traitors.. liberal jews who hated with passion russia and still today they do it. they are all pro NATO
pro west. who hated Russia.
people like navalny.. was in control of Russian economy or spying for the west , telling them
how to better break Russia.
worms like this..
Garry Kasparov
Mikhail Khodorkovsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Khodorkovsky
Boris Berezovsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky_(businessman)
Many enemies of Russia where in control of the nation economy , it was truly dark times and probably
the closest the west was from disbanding Russia completely. Then this midget person ,with a low profile ,with pro western opening show up ,from the kgb , that fooled everyone , into thinking he was part of the western libertards swamp. I remember reading the story in (russian insider) of how Boris Berezovsky was asked by americans if Putin can be trusted and he basically did not know anything about him , he told that he looks to have potential and was pro west.
Basically Putin fooled everyone ,by keeping a low profile ,into making them think he was one of them ,ready to give away russian nuclear weapons.
in other words.. in the year 2000.
Russia economy was nearly completely destroyed , in pieces and facing major dangerous war ,on its own soil in chechenia and dagestan ,bleeding the economy ,with NATO using Turkey ,Ukraine and georgia to transfer terrorist in russia caucasus. then facing the sinking on one submarines.. truly bad times for any one ,who was president.
So Putin ,at at steady but slow pace began to nationalize their energy industry and manyu defense industry too , remove from power positions all the traitors .
PUTIN
re-captured back the economy ,
that did not exist earlier ,and that allowed Russia to
START EVELOPMENT AGAIN , not to blow away the world.. but at least he started the process from the economy to start growing again..
in 2000,when putin arrive in power Russia was a sinking ship in the middle of a storm ,already ,with no working economy... but actually with a bleeding economy because of the terrorist war was facing and the oligarchs that he later kicked and most of them flee from Russia.
So putin saved Russia from what?
From sinking more ,remove all the water inside ,cleaned most of the corruption ,he stabilized the floating capabilities of the russian ship ,and even repaired the engines of the ship , that was broken ,so the ship could move and continue navigation. So yeah.. Putin did a major big contribution , in giving a chance Russia to continue moving forward , The ship was nearly fully repaired and now the ship can move in any direction the captain decide.
listen fools ,Nobody is denying that Putin helped a lot the nation during 2000 to 2008.
The problem is THAT the Russian ship still is not fully repaired ,its engines operate very slow speed ,
the ship can move ,can float ,but is very very slow ,and the worst part is that captain Putin ,who take the decision of the direction of economy ,of the travel route of the ship ,
that after captain putin ,saved the russian economy from totally collapsing from 2000 to 2008 have been realized by external observers , (like me) , a decade or so later ,that the ship was all the time moving in circles..
So thanks for putin for preventing russia from completely sinking , thanks for restarting the engine
of the economy of russia ,by simply nationalizing its energy and defense industry companies ,thanks too for restoring the security and military ,and to kick the traitors most of them ruining russia ,was even better ,this are not small things for sure ,so a lot of credit for Putin for that..
But like i said , all putin works in repairing the engine/the economy of the russian nation/the russian ship ,and even restarting its engine so that it can move again , and removing most of the water/corruption inside, all those actions will be wasted for nothing , if in the end the ship does not
leave the storm , if continue moving in circles , because have a totally failed travel route and don't know in which direction to move Russia.. remember putin's "pivot's to asia".
Remember putin's dreams of turning russia into a sport superpower.
Remember of this "brilliant ideas" of making russia the #1 tourist place in the world.. in other words ,that putin strategy for moving the russian ship ,the direction he have chosen , are comparable to moving in circles ,none of the things
that putin did , in 20 years in power ,have helped russia in any way ,shape or form ,to move the nation away of the storm.. he is moving russia in circles with the enemies ,with the storms and pirates allowed to get close ,always causing damages to the ship ,and threatening to sink it again.
and the crew inside the ship are leaving in mass ,abandoning the ship already ,because the sad reality of russia is..
That Saving a nation/ a ship from completely sinking is not enough , surviving is not enough ,this is what chavez movement did in venezuela. That rescue the nation and kicked the traitors from top power but later did not moved the nation in the right direction , so that the nation can avoid the storm and arrive for once at safe port. So an independence sovereignty revolution is not enough ,
nations need to move in the right direction ,away of the dangers that created in the first place the problems the country faced.
In this example russia can't flee planet earth , can avoid the dangers.. can't avoid its enemies ,that is the american empire is at war with russia , and the only options that Russia have to stop the dangers
and transform the nation into a super economy , is either with hard power ,by confronting their enemies using military force so they stop their war on russia ,give the west a bleeding nose ,as iran did that pushed them back ,(what i don't think is necessary now ,not yet) or else the only other option they have is to influence their enemies with softpower ,to influence the west with business ,either influence their allies ,like europe to disband NATO or /and influence american too ,with amazing ,extraordinary ,revolutionary business the west love and like.. and this is why i have been saying for a very long time , that russia face a leadership crisis and putin is the one to blame for that , a leaders need to lead a nation towards a safe port ,if facing danger and putin is doing nothing to stop the western undeclared proxy hot war mixed with economic and sanction war ,and now biological war.
all this problems that russia face are consequences of the failure of putin in confronting or influencing
the west. every nation ,every person ,every living being ,whether is an animal or a human can be influenced , but you need to know first ,what things influence those ,that you want to influence.
So putin will do nothing if after he repaired the russian ship ,began to navigate in circles over the same dangerous waters , are stormy waters ,but also now have mines too.. so the dangers putin's russia face in 2020 ,are much more dangerous ,than the ones russia faced in 2000. the dangers in the 2000 that russia faced were all internal ,were very bad but could be managed. but now 20 years later ,the dangers are not only for politics only ,that putin regime becomes overthrow and a tyrant take his place. the dangers today that russia face , are not only in politics or broken economy or terrorist war in the caucasus that had no chance to last very long and over run all russia land.Russia today face a major danger to the very existence of life on its own territory ,with this new biological war ,that anglo powers have unleash in russia and that could trigger a nuclear conflict too.
So putin's arrival to russia in the presidency ,was a major curse/gift (both at same time),because while he repaired the ship so it doesn't sink more , and even cleaned most of the water inside/(the corruption) ,at the same time ,he began to move the russian ship navigate in circles , to nowhere , allowing its enemies to continue trying in destroying and breaking russia. And how is putin doing that? navigating to nowhere the future of russia? by putin doing nothing ,to confront their enemies ,
neither with hard military power ,neither with soft power ,that alternative high tech business and a modern recreated culture could have done. If Russians ever wants their nation to move to a safe port and become a major development nation ,they will need to compete with western business ,as china is doing , emulate the ambitious program of the soviet union in space , but also take it to the high tech industry too.. is not sport medals/tribalism /nationalism pride bullshit/or artificial cosmetic depelopment with disney parks in moscow, that promote american culture in russia.
,what putin needs to promote is Russia as a true alternative to the western world ,the western system and that only can be done with a major true scientific and education revolution in russia , that directly aims the most important western bussiness ,that the west use to influence the world. all those silicon valley companies software industry , semiconductor and high tech electronics cannot be allow to remain with total supremacy ,as putin have allowed during 20 years. if puti nwants to avoid a nuclear war , he have no options but to compete with western business that they use all the time as soft power to influence the world. a new russia ,new culture , new business industry needs to be created for that.. and use the china example for that. russia needs to imitate the good things the west and china are doing ,that produce major world influence in business and avoid their mistakes ,like blocking religions , blocking freedom of private expression when is peaceful ,those things that blocks the development of every citizen ,their true freedom ,let people worship whatever thing they want
as long is not violent or promote hate and rascism. the government needs to stay away of people private lives. and stop promoting that bullshit orthodox crap ,fake christian cult in in the country.
Above the chart.. is incredibly misleading ,because does not mention that russia economy was in recession ,in negative growth and was most of it in control of foreign enemy nations. there is an analogy that economist use to explain the "miracle" of the russian recovery , if you have a dead cat and throw it from several floors building to the ground , the cat will bounce ,and people who live in a dead economy will also notice the economy a big bounce.. but the economy is death and will fall back , all this bounce up and down is all about perception , and there is no denying russia enjoyed economic progress during first decade , and because the russia economy was worse than bad,
any small changes in the economy ,any nationalization here in the energy industry will have done that. major changes , but all those changes were temporary , all that bounce was unsustainable ,
as soon as american started their sanctions war , the russian economy was crushed and lost more than half the value of its currency and purchasing power from buying modern things.
venezuela is the best way to see how bad Russia position can be ,if putin continue in power.
and its temporary "economic miracle" recovery. the chavez movement nationalized its energy industry and removed all the pro western corruption from power just like putin.. and the venezuela economy.. just like russia , from negative growth began to grow massively. but then the economic development strategy that chavez movement created had a catastrophic major failure,, that their oil sales ,their almost only client in oil sales was United states.
So all this "economic miracle"
that chaves and maduro created in venezuela ,was a temporary one ,went down the toilet with obama and trump sanctions later,,because they forgot to develop and economy that was independent from the west too.. So the same mistakes that venezuela did on its nation development , putin also did it in russia.
The only reason russia is not like venezuela today is that at least russia have a powerful military and its naval commerce can't be blocked and that europe depends heavily on russian energy ,something that venezuela did not have..
while there is no denying that putin "saved the economy" , that is repaired the ship from sinking
at the same time ,putin did not solved permanently the problem that caused the ship to start sinking.
if putin allows russia to continue in stormy dangerous waters ,allows russia to continue following the western system , the western international laws , the western banking system , the western internet and computers ,the western social media to dominate in russia ,to western culture to dominate in russia ,the western embassy allowed to freely recruit in russia , then sooner or later the economy ,the ship will sink again and this will be impossible to repair it by putin.
what life is teaching russia is that they need to be TRUE independent nation ,from the west and needs
to compete with the west
so any fool , even maduro of venezuela ,will have rescue the economy of russia if he was the president and not putin ,as much as putin did it during the first 14 years.. but just like happened to chavez and maduro ,for relying in the western system ,as soon the west start sanction war on your country ,your nation economy will sink.. putin for the past 20 years ,while repaired the sinking ship from continue sinking ,continue moving in circles in stormy oceans and now full of mines . Russia needs a navigation route , one that is very ambitious one ,that take russia to the 21 century as a leader of the world in modern business that directly compete with western ones ,,and they don't need
to do it all alone , they can do it with china or brics nations alliance. one to put an end of the unilateral unfair system the west created and the world follows. Nothing is more influential in the world than a successful nation , with advance future looking ambitious business. and is with business that putin need to fight ..not with hypersonic or bullshit medals. or banana farming records.
All things said , long term speaking , putin did not saved the russian economy ,he only repaired the bleed in the economy and repaired the engines too ,so the russian ship can move ,but instead of moving russia to the next level , he stay quietly depeloping russia like a venezuelan gas station ,
a pipeline empire , so he continue later navigating the russian ship in circles in dangerous waters ,
by not confronting the western system ,not challenging it , neither with their military ,neither with busines ,and so the west is allowed to continue firing missiles , firing sanctions ,financing civil unrest and now using biological warfare against russia ,,and this is why all those table and charts that claims putin "rescue" russia economy are totally pointless even if true ,because all putin did was band aid to a terminal illness that russia face, of stagnation or passiveness and inaction in confronting the things that caused the soviet union to collapse ,and russia empire to fall ,and now threatening russia federation too . there is a system in place in the west ,that if not confronted or challenged will destroy any nation who seek prosperity ,safety and national development. So long term speaking , what putin did was a total waste of time ,so much saving to later allow russia to sink again. putin is bad President russia , not a tyrant ,not a traitor ,not terrible ,but still was bad ,in long term . because his solutions to help russia was only temporary ,not truly long lasting ones. some will argue that putin is better than nothing ,and i will agree ,better than most leaders in the world and that could be true ,because still russia is alive and is not yet too late for russia to fix its problems and become a true super power , because this is the only way ,through leadership how russia can avoid a major world war. but unfortunately Putin is more like a band aid to a small wound of a cancer patient. And a major visionary leader will be need to take russia to the next level. the chinese president Xi jinping will have done a million times better than putin ,because he not only saved china from falling ,but did something even more amazing , Xi jinping took china from a manufacturing power ,into a leader in future looking business in the world, so hats off to all the chinese people, for such amazing president.. Xi jinping is the best president in the world , not only cares about its people ,just like putin ,and many other countries leaders does , but he actually have a real vision for the future of china and this is why the anglo west is very scared of china business development ,because contrary to putin's hypersonic nuclear missiles that will never be used and olympic bullshit that are just distractions , this major advances of chinese business is actually contesting the western world system ,that took them more than 50 years to build ,is now being decimated in 1/3 of that time and if china is major advance in space and high tech industry ,then in 5 to 10 years it could become the next japan.. like japan but on steroids ,and if allowed china to influence the rest of the world with its modern advanced business , then US policy makers will face a huge dilema ,that their sanctions will be useless if nations joins the chinese orbit and their new system ,that still is work in progress ,but have a lot of promises.
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