lancelot wrote:
First, Putin does not go outside the boundaries of what he knows he can do. Second, even if Russia stays on its borders the US would not stop encroaching on Russia's borders and doing their usual shit everywhere else. Just look at what happened when Yeltsin was in power. The US even turns its own allies against them like Egypt (aiding the Muslim Brotherhood) and Turkey (trying to depose Erdogan with a military coup). Russia is simply acting on its own best interest .
indeed,
but at the expense of the misery of millions of civilians in other nations. don't you understand the the syrian war is in reality war against Russia its ultimate goal?
but is syria the one attacked directly by NATO and israel and not Russia.
The syrian war is a trap ,that american and british and israel planned and destroying syria was
only a bonus , to end the support of hezbolah . but the big big goal there was to crush the Russian
army ,in a endless war ,with the entire middle east invading it.. this is very clever attack on Russia interest which are all their closest allies.
Can you see that the war on venezuela ,is a war against Russia too.. they don't care about
venezuela at all , american's have oil . US is only in venezuela because they want to capture
venezuela oil ,then later use that oil ,to flood the market with oil , and increase the pressure
on Russia economy ,because the more oil is produced in the world ,the lower will be its value.
this is how they bankrupt russia in the 90s , with oil price wars ,combined with a proxy chechen war
that nato was the main supplier of weapons to them through turkey ,and with the help of georgia.
All roads leads to rome , all major wars leads to Russia. the arab spring ,which is a muslim brotherhood war , is nothing more than a war to remove all the business client states of Russia in the world . The anglozionist were is preparing the scenario for a major war against russia ,that will likely be by proxy and they want first to block the russian navy from having any port to refuel , also block russia from deploying bases in lybia so close to american bases in italy.
go look at youtube video , 7 countries in 5 years.. where a 3 start former NATO general ,explained this in details, that the military have the order to take down 7 countries in 5 years in late 2001.
all those nations facing war today , he explained ,was to take down them before russia could modernize their military .to isolate russia economy from the world as much as possible ,this was the purpose of the arab spring. by taking down all pro russia governments from the world ,this was told by a former US general in a conference.
New war now in venezuela starting....using similar tactics of the syrian war ,look the news , americans are using their base in colombia to pass weapons to guerrillas that invade venezuela and kill their soldiers , the attrition war against venezuela officially began in 2021. and several venezuelan soldiers killed ,trying to push back this mercenaries paid by US and armed by them. and this is just another layer of pressure on them ,because the economy of venezuela is totally destroyed, their inflation is on the millions per US dollar the world biggest one by far and putin totally absent in the help of their allies. because venezuela is attacked for no other reason ,that is allied to Russia and not to US. So Putin irresponsible foreign policy of using as guinea pigs ,as meat shields other nations to minimize the pressure of US sanctions is criminal ,because Russia is pushing their interest at the expense of the blood and misery of millions around the world.
Imagine one day ,that you are very well armed ,and you choose to fight the drug cartels in any country ,lets say mexico ,and you declare war on mexican cartels openly, but then you get the "brilliant idea" to ask for help local community who live near the drug cartels with a place to sleep ,to rest ,when you are not fighting them at nights. what could go wrong ? that the house you seek refugee will be burned down and destroyed and killed that family in retaliation for helping you.
This
IS the most irresponsible and crimminal policy of putin ,that encourage nations to
help Russia military with a base ,or with refueling ,and sell weapons to them to fight americans.
and later that country is destroyed by the west , and putin look to the side , is not our problem.
Venezuela , just like putin did to syria for the first years of the war (first 5 years) , if left alone to fight the american military proxy fighters ,invading venezuela now, and this same syrian scenario is repeating again in venezuela. a new endless war , all for what ? for venezuela choosing to ally with russia and not with US and this is why is punished. the anglo west wants to get rid of any nation
that Russia manage to influence ,specially in latin america ,that is close to US borders.
does it benefits Russia interest to deploy bases in latin america? off course it does..
but is completely wrong that once an nation offers to join putin calls for an world resistance against
the west ,that later putin abandons them to their own luck when attacked. venezuela no longer have diesel for the the summer because nations are afraid of US sactions and what is putin doing? nothing.
abandoning its allies , nations that have listened putin's calls to join russia , is abandoning them to their own luck.. this is criminal what putin is doing is irresponsible.. i could expect this to happen from the anglozionist empire ,that is a terrorist organization but not from Russia. this put Russia at the same level of US , in terms of using nations for their own benefit and that don't care later of the really bad consequence of their actions for other countries.
If Putin plans to fight the west , he either stand with its allies ,with those who have chosen to trust in Russia calls for unity to join them versus the american regime ,or either he stop encouraging nations
anywhere to develop good relations with Russia ,and warn them that doing business with russia will automatically make them ,to become a target to hit by NATO and that they will be alone on their own. And this is the reason why Russia have almost no allies in the world .Most Nations don't see Russia , as a reliable nation they can trust and so they prefer to avoid being part of this fight between NATO and Russia.
Vann7 wrote:The point here is that all this misery that US cause in the world , all the countries that get destroyed
either their economy or by military ways , this are all wars , proxy wars against Russia.
Not really.
Yes they are.
look all the conflicts americans have started ,for the only exclusive reason
to fight ,to weaken russia.
- soviets war on afhanistan , this was provoked by americans armed mercenaries and skirmishes on soviet borders.
-yugoeslavia war , same. war to kick soviet union from central europe.
egypt war vs israel ,same
-chechen war , same
-georgia war ,same
ukraine war ,same
syria war , same
lybia war , same , to kick russia influence from northern africa too.
basically US wants to kicks russia from any place ,that threatens the security of their nation for being close to it ,as it is latin america ,or their threatens the security of the navigation of their navies when they need to travel to europe, so basically ban russian navy from the mediterranean sea.. and hit any country that give russia a refueling post. just like syria and lybia or algeria. which by the way was attacked to by the arab spring.
not all wars are against russia , (there are conflicts now they trying to provoke ,now against china in asia) but overwhelming majority of all world big conflicts are proxy wars of anglozionist powers against russia. because they fight russia directly since in a nuclear power ,then they doit by proxy.
is very simple their foreign policy ,to understand ,when you see is all about destroying russia, and now also china too.
US foreign policy is all about consolidation of power in the world, full spectrum dominance ,a world dictatorship and destroying all the nations that oppose their unilateral world. and the only ones refusing it , that can cause problems to them ,are Russia and china. so the west goes and provoke
conflicts in all zones in the world that Russia and china have major interest. is as easy as that , the western foreign policy.
I doubt the technology transfer to Brazil would have been that substantive.
then don't doubt , putin is really dumb and stupid.
i check everyday putin's media RT.com and it was there that was told putin was offering brazil
when a pro russian gov was in power , a Full transfer of technology to brasil of their su-57 ,with
everything ,the know how's to do it , so they build them in their own country , if they accept to buy a big number of stealth planes.
the deal never happened ,because brazil say no, they backed down for fear of US sanctions ,on russia
defense industry. But had they accepted that deal , today brazil that is controlled by a puppet of the americans ,will have given away all the secrets of russia stealth planes.
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Putin is a very bad president, will never get tired of saying this. Only gorvashov and lenin was worse. those two hated russia. putin the only positive thing he have ,is that he is patriotic, but he is incredibly naive and fool ,and is destroying the nation with his backward passiveness and policies he promotes in the nation.
None of this wars , we see in the world , ukraine ,armenia ,syria ,venezuela ,georgia , afganistan ,iraq ,iran ,etc etc etc,so many to count, and those that soviet union had to do , none of this wars will have happened ever if Russia did not exist. this are proxy wars ,for the interest of the anglo west , to weaken russia influence in the world.
new wars they starting or will start , venezuela ,nicaragua ,cuba , transnistria , ukraine part 2 , armenia part 2. Syria part 2? war with turkey? i honestly don't see how is Russia going to survive all this millions of proxy wars ,that nato can provoke against russia . they don't need to directly fight russia , all that the west needs is just keep repeating the ukraine and syrian scenarios until Russia bleed to death and economic conditions worsen significantly in Russia and civil unrest , then civil war again. then bye bye russia again. will be split one more time ,with putin in power ,with his extremely passive and reactionary policies.[/quote]