Syrian War: News #22

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Isos wrote:According to russians, syrian buk launched 25 missiles at turkish drones. They destroyed 20 of them, 3 missiles missed and i don't understand about the two other. It's a 80% Pk against drones.

On their official website they say a 70% Pk against cruise missiles which is a similar target than those turkish drones in terms of size.

Under a heavy ECM environment with the Turkish Koral deployed.

Isos wrote:Are those "guardians" one of their proxies ?

ahmedfire wrote:

Isos wrote:Are those "guardians" one of their proxies ?

Almost all groups there are Turkish proxies , some of them didn't agree on the Turkish Russian deal .

Update :

Russian defense: Two Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with terrorists in Idlib  on the "M4" road in Idlib, northwestern Syria

Pic from Turkish mod for the dead .

The chickens coming home to roost! Remember that time when ISIS/ISIL attacked Turkish Leo-2's?

Isos wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1241088031974662149

Krasnopol in Syria. Deadly accuracy.

Bellow in comment more video and one video of ISIS drone launching hand grenades at russian PMC but total failure.

GarryB wrote:Those videos were interesting... if you look at some with the big crosshairs coloured blue or black it marks the exact impact point, while other videos of the same target are centred in other places making the hits look random and not accurate.

I suspect over each target there are drones filming target areas and the drones marking the targets are using their own laser beams to mark the target so when you see video of an attack where the impact is not in the centre of the view of the videoing drone it is because another drone is actually marking the target.

If you go to the above link and look at the second video down at about the 14-16 second mark you see a big circle crosshair marking where the rounds impact on the target so that video is of the target from the drone marking the target... note a section of the roof collapses near the door... then immediately after that view of the impact you see the same building from a different angle... notice the roof collapses again but the impact is not in the centre of view because this camera angle is to view the attack and not to mark the target for the attack.

It is also important to see how close these rounds are to the point of aim... that looks like a CEP of less than 2m to me.... and with a 40kg artillery shell that is plenty...

SVP stands for “специализированная вычислительная подсистема” or “special computing subsystem”.  What this system does is that it constantly compares the position of the aircraft and the target (using the GLONASS satellite navigation system), it measures the environmental parameters (pressure, humidity, windspeed, speed, angle of attack, etc.).  

It can also receive additional information from datalinks from AWACs aircraft, ground stations, and other aircraft.  The SVP-24 then computes an “envelope” (speed, altitude, course) inside which the dumb bombs are automatically released exactly at the precise moment when their unguided flight will bring them right over the target (with a 3-5m accuracy).

In practical terms this means that every 30+ year old Russian “dumb” bomb can now be delivered by a 30+ year old Russian aircraft with the same precision as a brand new guided bomb delivered by a top of the line modern bomber.

Not only that, but the pilot does not even have to worry about targeting anything.  He just enters the target’s exact coordinates into his system, flies within a defined envelope and the bombs are automatically released for him.  He can place his full attention on detecting any hostiles (aircraft, missiles, AA guns).  And the best part of this all is that this system can be used in high altitude bombing runs, well over the 5000m altitude which MANPADs cannot reach.  Finally, clouds, smoke, weather conditions or time of the day play no role in this whatsoever.

Last, but not least, this is a very *cheap* solution.  Russian can now use the huge stores of ‘dumb’ bombs they have accumulated during the Cold War, they can bring an infinite supply of such bombs to Syria and every one of them will strike with phenomenal accuracy.  And since the SVP-24 is mounted on the aircraft and not the bomb, it can be reused as often as needed.

ahmedfire wrote:very cost control way with a cheap bombs against terrorists

magnumcromagnon wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:very cost control way with a cheap bombs against terrorists

MOD has invested heavily in to inertial guidance, and has applied said technology to just about everything. The new GLATGM's being introduced for Russian MBT's will have inertial guidance integration, to allow them to hit targets at much greater ranges than 5km (presumably beyond 10km).

ahmedfire wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:very cost control way with a cheap bombs against terrorists

MOD has invested heavily in to inertial guidance, and has applied said technology to just about everything. The new GLATGM's being introduced for Russian MBT's will have inertial guidance integration, to allow them to hit targets at much greater ranges than 5km (presumably beyond 10km).

But this is different from inertial guidance , i mean it's a free fall but it's previously calculated , the bomb it self neither navigate nor have any flight correction ways like inertial guidance