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JohninMK wrote:Backman wrote:
The term stealing oil implies that this is highway robbery. It isn't. They are in control of some of the oilfields. They are running and maintaining the wells with their own resources. They are dealing with the marginal cost of production like everyone else
To me 'stealing' basically means taking something without the owners permission. I am pretty sure that the US, who are managing the operation, do not have the permission of the oil fields owner, the Syrian Government. So yes, it is highway robbery and a highwayman had to bear the marginal cost of production too, horse, feed, weapons etc but it was still theft.
I know that the SG and SDF have some deals on profit share on oil pipelined west but not this unmeasured extraction. The US have even bought in a western oil company to upgrade the infrastructure to optimize the theft.
With this action I suspect that bulk theft is now over, again. The message has gone out, production and refining for local use is allowed but bulk export, which seems to have been building up (like ISIS exploited to the full in the past), is not going to be allowed to happen again. Someone got too greedy.
A side effect may be more military action as the Turks may well no longer have a profit stream to protect by a softly, softly approach.
you really need to think..your comment is stupid.
do you think turks are the only ones driving trucks?. they aren't not every truck has something to do with oil.
why do I have to point out grade school level things
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GarryB wrote:
The trucks the Russians destroyed were oil tanker trucks and they destroyed them at an oilfield...
GarryB wrote:you really need to think..your comment is stupid.
do you think turks are the only ones driving trucks?. they aren't not every truck has something to do with oil.
why do I have to point out grade school level things
The trucks the Russians destroyed were oil tanker trucks and they destroyed them at an oilfield... who gives a fuck who drives them... maybe it is catholic nuns earning a bit of cash on the side... the trucks that were hit were hit at night so there were likely no drivers in those cabs... but even if they were all manned... tough shit... you are stealing oil from Syria and you are paying with your life.
Ironic coming from you thinking that Iraqis in Iraq defending their country from American invaders are fair game to be shot if they get in the way of American operations... hilarious double standard going on there...
Hole wrote:Around the world some very special country is bombing bakerys or kindergardens because a beardy man was seen in the proximity but bombing fuel truck that are run by terrorists is evil.
Hypocrisy at its best!
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Isos wrote:This bombing happened when they were all parked togather (outside of the city if I'm not wrong). They clearly aren't civilian trucks and for sure were tracked by drones for days to know what they are doing.
They also bombed at night when civilians don't really work.
It was a big attack to destroy a capacity at once and send a clear message.
So no, they aren't bombing indiscriminately civilians in the middle of a city. Neither they will hunt each truck lonely. If it happens again they will bomb just like this time
Russians have learned from US mistakes in Irak and are being cautious to not hurt the population and even provide help when they can.
I said bombing a fuel truck just driving around is a terrible idea. I never said bombing them is bad just indiscriminate attacks is.
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GarryB wrote:I said bombing a fuel truck just driving around is a terrible idea. I never said bombing them is bad just indiscriminate attacks is.
The fun thing is that Syria is currently divided into three parts. One part is Syrian government controlled and one part is Turkish supported terrorist controlled, and one is US Kurdish terrorist controlled.
Bombing fuel trucks in terrorist controlled areas is fair game... and I understand that upsets you because your side is there for the oil even only to deny it to Syrians.
Besides.... hahahaha... an American who thinks indiscriminate bombing is moronic... you might need to re read your manuals commando.
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but hey if your fine with Russia anything that moves then that's fine, just don't bitch about the US doing it because you constantly do.
JohninMK wrote:spriters
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Russia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey:
We agreed to end the Syrian crisis under the supervision of the United Nations according to a political solution that satisfies all parties and ends the conflict in Syria ...
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crod wrote:JohninMK wrote:spriters
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Russia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey:
We agreed to end the Syrian crisis under the supervision of the United Nations according to a political solution that satisfies all parties and ends the conflict in Syria ...
...and so the formal breakup of Syria begins. Wonder what will be left of it.
If they were 'so close' to a diplomatic breakthrough then why did the VKS proceed with the operation? It's nothing more than diplomatic fluff, and post-Cold War history has shown us that postmodernist ("The End of History") diplomacy is a pile of bullshit, and "Might makes Right!" is the only metric that moves the needle for these dipshitmatic bean counters.
elconquistador wrote:
I also very much believe that Russia would happily trade the dismemberment of Syria for blowing up US-Saudi relations and Turkey-NATO relations
crod wrote:JohninMK wrote:spriters
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Russia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey:
We agreed to end the Syrian crisis under the supervision of the United Nations according to a political solution that satisfies all parties and ends the conflict in Syria ...
...and so the formal breakup of Syria begins. Wonder what will be left of it.
elconquistador wrote:
Those developments should be seen in this light.
I also very much believe that Russia would happily trade the dismemberment of Syria for blowing up US-Saudi relations and Turkey-NATO relations
Iran however, will never abandon Syria.
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elconquistador wrote:
Those developments should be seen in this light.
I also very much believe that Russia would happily trade the dismemberment of Syria for blowing up US-Saudi relations and Turkey-NATO relations
Iran however, will never abandon Syria.
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