Syrian War: News #22

elconquistador wrote:

par far wrote:

elconquistador wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Elconqistador is another retard spewing shit he doesn't understand and can't back up with facts cause of "muh anecdotal evidence cause I talked to Russians in China" stupidity.  It's actually the basics to bring both retarded and a troll in an arguments sake.

1) Russia's economy has been bad since forever according to bumbasses. Yet, they manage to pretty much weather every form of sanctions and start import substitution.  Wow, a sign of bad economy, right fellow retards?

2) Russia is gonna split Syria. Why? Dunno. Just because one retard thinks so.  If we believed everything said by Joe blow nobodies, then we would believe no Russians are in Syria and Russians are in Ukraine.

The problem is, everyone has an opinion.  They should though keep it to themselves so they don't sound so stupid like elconqistador does.  Much like his fellow friends like Ultron and Ultimate Warrior.

Take your pills Mike, you come off like a schizo.

You are the one that needs pills.

If the Russian economy was bad as you say, than western media would have been all over it.

The chance to sell out Syria was when the Saudis offered Russia billions of dollars and Russia refused.

If Russian economy was bad than, Russia would not have been expanding militarily(the new base in Sudan.)

There are always to be some that will go abroad, would not surprise me if white scientists from the west came to Russia(the way the west is treating them, they might not have a choice.) The point that a little bit of Russians are going to a friendly country to teach, does not mean Russian economy is done.

Do you and your friends lack reading comprehension skills?

Maintaining a small military base in a geographically relevant area does not equal fighting and endless insurgency somewhere in the desert

The Russian economy is not doing bad judging by the political situation it is in, but can and must not in any way engage in needless wars of attrition that can be turned on and off by foreign agitators that have a combined GDP 100 times the size of Russia's, have power over the world reserve currency and can create money at will

Bunch of hypocrites on top of that. Half of the membership here is Russians living abroad. Just pack your bags and go back to Russia if its such a great economy. Strangely enough it's always roundtrips though.

The bunch of you are much alike low IQ muzzies. All talk about how bad it is but too much of a cuck to actually say goodbye to comfort and hedonism and start building up your own country.

Pathetic.

As for Russians living abroad, the moment they'd offer visa free travel half the Russian youth would be bunking three high in London and Berlin. You really aren't any different from the Poles, Bulgarians or Ukrainians. The fact that Russian girls are still hooking up with ugly greasy Westerners (or Chinese for that matter) says a lot.

I am a big fan of Russia/Putin and see it as one of the last bastions of normalcy, tradition and the natural /divine order but you guys should really get rid of the siege mentality and the fan boy-ism. You sound like a scorned woman when called fat.

As for your suggestion that high skilled Whites (capital W) coming to Russia, I wouldn't bet on it. Unless its for non-economic reasons. Asia is the place to be. Singapore, Japan, Malaysia, China, even CBDs in places like Manila, Saigon and Bangkok have many sharply dressed White business guys walking around these days

Look at the military budget that Russia has and it is able to achieve with it it.

Russia does not plan to enter endless wars, this is not part Russia's plans. Russia will build military bases but in strategic places. Russia learned from the dying empire that having many bases and wars will bankrupt you(Russia can also turn to  Afghanistan if it ever wanted to go the way that the empire has.)

Russian youth can move to Berlin and other western cities  the west is already giving Russian youth visas to move out(the west would love this) but the Russians are to smart. Also the youth in Russia is not tied down, they can go see what the great is right. Russia isn't a shithole like Ukraine or west controlled Poland where women have to spread their legs for immigrants. And for Russian girls hioking up, there is always going to be sluts in every country.

The future is in Asia and Russia is nicely placed to be part of it and benefit from it.

Backman wrote:

elconquistador wrote:

Backman wrote:

elconquistador wrote:@GarryB I've lived along Russian youngsters for years in China. The fact that they en masse flock to China masquerading as 'Matthew from Minnesota' and 'Kelly from Texas' to illegally teach Chinese kids - thereby risking detention, deportation and forfeiting of funds is a telling sign that the economic situation in Russia ain't all that rosy

Which is underlined by themselves by the way.

Russia is in no position to throw money away on 'humanitarian' projects in Syria. Not that I care by the way, there is nothing wrong with a 'what's in it for me' mentality.

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Or really. You seem to be drinking a lot of the muh Russia economy kool aid

And how do these metrics prove that the average Russian has money to spend on 'humanitarian' missions abroad

In every industrial economy today , there are really rich people and really poor people. It's just a function of the unbacked fiat monetary system that every country is using today. Russia is the only country that is trying to harden up its currency by buying gold.

But either way , that wasn't even your point. You believed that your little sob story about some poor Russian , said something about the structure of the Russian economy. Well guess what. It doesn't.

You say X number of Russians are living on $700 a month and you dont even seem to realize that $700 a month in rural Russia isn't the same as $700 a month in the west. The cost of living is equally low. Someone living in Switzerland on $2500 a month is no better off.

You ranking lists India in its top 5. I can't take that as a serious metric. People that have been to India will understand.

I'd also suggest you stop twisting the meaning of my words. I was referring to disposable income, not monetary policy or gold reserves. I know the hardcore Russia-can't -do-anything-wrong crowd loves to talk about that stuff but it doesn't actually mean anything, not yet at least. To anyone without an agenda that should have been obvious.

'You don't even seem to realize that 700 USD in Russia isn't the same as 700 USD in the West', my man you must be straight up trolling now

There's not a lot of big dick energy going on in this thread. I guess the Russian economy is a sensitive point to posters here. I get it, lots of propaganda and all that, but it sure does feel a bit like an inferiority complex to be honest.

I will refrain from further posting. Good luck with your fundamentalist view on geopolitics. I can only hope Putin has a bit more sense in his thinking. Biden is now 1. 5 months into office and the Ukraine is ready to explode, Syria can be stirred up at anytime, Armenia is a mess, Belarus has turned into a money pit and the Stans could get messy too

par far wrote:

elconquistador wrote:

par far wrote:

elconquistador wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Elconqistador is another retard spewing shit he doesn't understand and can't back up with facts cause of "muh anecdotal evidence cause I talked to Russians in China" stupidity.  It's actually the basics to bring both retarded and a troll in an arguments sake.

1) Russia's economy has been bad since forever according to bumbasses. Yet, they manage to pretty much weather every form of sanctions and start import substitution.  Wow, a sign of bad economy, right fellow retards?

2) Russia is gonna split Syria. Why? Dunno. Just because one retard thinks so.  If we believed everything said by Joe blow nobodies, then we would believe no Russians are in Syria and Russians are in Ukraine.

The problem is, everyone has an opinion.  They should though keep it to themselves so they don't sound so stupid like elconqistador does.  Much like his fellow friends like Ultron and Ultimate Warrior.

Take your pills Mike, you come off like a schizo.

You are the one that needs pills.

If the Russian economy was bad as you say, than western media would have been all over it.

The chance to sell out Syria was when the Saudis offered Russia billions of dollars and Russia refused.

If Russian economy was bad than, Russia would not have been expanding militarily(the new base in Sudan.)

There are always to be some that will go abroad, would not surprise me if white scientists from the west came to Russia(the way the west is treating them, they might not have a choice.) The point that a little bit of Russians are going to a friendly country to teach, does not mean Russian economy is done.

Do you and your friends lack reading comprehension skills?

Maintaining a small military base in a geographically relevant area does not equal fighting and endless insurgency somewhere in the desert

The Russian economy is not doing bad judging by the political situation it is in, but can and must not in any way engage in needless wars of attrition that can be turned on and off by foreign agitators that have a combined GDP 100 times the size of Russia's, have power over the world reserve currency and can create money at will

Bunch of hypocrites on top of that. Half of the membership here is Russians living abroad. Just pack your bags and go back to Russia if its such a great economy. Strangely enough it's always roundtrips though.

The bunch of you are much alike low IQ muzzies. All talk about how bad it is but too much of a cuck to actually say goodbye to comfort and hedonism and start building up your own country.

Pathetic.

As for Russians living abroad, the moment they'd offer visa free travel half the Russian youth would be bunking three high in London and Berlin. You really aren't any different from the Poles, Bulgarians or Ukrainians. The fact that Russian girls are still hooking up with ugly greasy Westerners (or Chinese for that matter) says a lot.

I am a big fan of Russia/Putin and see it as one of the last bastions of normalcy, tradition and the natural /divine order but you guys should really get rid of the siege mentality and the fan boy-ism. You sound like a scorned woman when called fat.

As for your suggestion that high skilled Whites (capital W) coming to Russia, I wouldn't bet on it. Unless its for non-economic reasons. Asia is the place to be. Singapore, Japan, Malaysia, China, even CBDs in places like Manila, Saigon and Bangkok have many sharply dressed White business guys walking around these days

Look at the military budget that Russia has and it is able to achieve with it it.

Russia does not plan to enter endless wars, this is not part Russia's plans. Russia will build military bases but in strategic places. Russia learned from the dying empire that having many bases and wars will bankrupt you(Russia can also turn to  Afghanistan if it ever wanted to go the way that the empire has.)

Russian youth can move to Berlin and other western cities  the west is already giving Russian youth visas to move out(the west would love this) but the Russians are to smart. Also the youth in Russia is not tied down, they can go see what the great is right. Russia isn't a shithole like Ukraine or west controlled Poland where women have to spread their legs for immigrants. And for Russian girls hioking up, there is always going to be sluts in every country.

The future is in Asia and Russia is nicely placed to be part of it and benefit from it.

OK finally a response that isn't centered around personal insults. Much appreciated

^ You asked whether Russia could afford the Syrian war. Russia is a state. The Russian state is not particularly poor.


Whether it's better to be a have-not in Russia or better being a have-not in the west has NOTHING to do with whether the Russian state can afford the Syria war or not. And its a totally different subject.

Of course on balance , it's probably better being a have-not in the imperial super states of the world who have criminally over valued currencies due to their imperial grip on the world. But again. Does this mean the Russian state is poor ? And can't afford the Syria war ? Hell no.

Russian have-nots are worse off because Russia is imperially poor compared to the US empire. And you think Russia reducing it's imperial footprint is going to help this ? It won't. It just makes it worse.

elconquistador wrote:

Backman wrote:

elconquistador wrote:

Backman wrote:

elconquistador wrote:@GarryB I've lived along Russian youngsters for years in China. The fact that they en masse flock to China masquerading as 'Matthew from Minnesota' and 'Kelly from Texas' to illegally teach Chinese kids - thereby risking detention, deportation and forfeiting of funds is a telling sign that the economic situation in Russia ain't all that rosy

Which is underlined by themselves by the way.

Russia is in no position to throw money away on 'humanitarian' projects in Syria. Not that I care by the way, there is nothing wrong with a 'what's in it for me' mentality.

.

Or really. You seem to be drinking a lot of the muh Russia economy kool aid

And how do these metrics prove that the average Russian has money to spend on 'humanitarian' missions abroad

In every industrial economy today , there are really rich people and really poor people. It's just a function of the unbacked fiat monetary system that every country is using today. Russia is the only country that is trying to harden up its currency by buying gold.

But either way , that wasn't even your point. You believed that your little sob story about some poor Russian , said something about the structure of the Russian economy. Well guess what. It doesn't.

You say X number of Russians are living on $700 a month and you dont even seem to realize that $700 a month in rural Russia isn't the same as $700 a month in the west. The cost of living is equally low. Someone living in Switzerland on $2500 a month is no better off.

You ranking lists fucking India in its top 5. And I am supposed to take that seriously?

I'd also suggest you stop twisting the meaning of my words. I was referring to disposable income, not monetary policy or gold reserves. I know the hardcore Russia-can't -do-anything-wrong crowd loves to yap about that stuff but it doesn't actually mean anything, not yet at least. To anyone without an agenda that should have been obvious.

'You don't even seem to realize that 700 USD in Russia isn't the same as 700 USD in the West', boomer you must be straight up trolling now

There's not a lot of big dick energy going on in this thread. I guess the Russian economy is a sensitive point to posters here. I get it, lots of propaganda and all that, but it sure does feel a bit like an inferiority complex to be honest.

I will refrain from further posting. Good luck with your fundamentalist view on geopolitics. I can only hope Putin has a bit more sense in his thinking. Biden is now 1. 5 months into office and the Ukraine is ready to explode, Syria can be stirred up at anytime, Armenia is a mess, Belarus has turned into a money pit and the Stans could get messy too

No one thinks here believes in any propaganda, if something is not right, posters will call it the way it is but the posters also know when and how to deal with bullshit.

Ukraine can explode all it wants, this is a problem for the west/Europe, if Syria is stirred up, Russia can stir something Bidet does not like, Armenia chose a western puppet and are now paying for it, not Russia's problem, Russian investment will go to Belarus and the companies in Belarus will be bought by the Russian government for pennies.

elconquistador just doesn't know how the world works. He's making the same mistake as Yeltsin
Hey lets make our economy capitalist like the USA. Then we will be just as rich as they are. Let's pay down all of our debt (they have) let's get as much gold as they have(they've done that too) And ? How's that working ? Well. The Ruble still gets pushed around pretty easily. Why ? Because the west is rich because of imperialism. Not because it has good economic policies.

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Russia "extremely alarmed" by the transfer of military equipment of the Turkish Armed Forces and fortification works around Ain Issa in Raqqa Governorate, Russian Reconciliation Center for Syria says in a briefing.


This violates the status quo established by the Russian-Turkish Memorandum of Understanding and undermines the efforts of both sides in resolving the Syrian conflict.
/ Deputy Head of the Russian Central Command and Control Center in SAR / RIA Novosti

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russia is alarmed by the transfer of equipment of the Turkish Armed Forces and the ongoing fortification works in the Syrian province of Raqqa, Rear Adm. Alexander Karpov, the deputy head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties in Syria, said at a briefing.

"The Russian side is extremely alarmed by the transfer of military equipment of the Turkish Armed Forces and the construction of fortifications at strong points in the area of ​​the settlement of Ayn Issa, Raqqa province. These actions violate the status quo established by the memorandum of understanding and undermine the efforts of both sides in resolving the Syrian conflict," Karpov said.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202103151082350836-russia-alarmed-by-transfer-of-turkish-armys-equipment-in-syrias-raqqa-military-says/

Backman wrote:elconquistador just doesn't know how the world works. He's making the same mistake as Yeltsin
Hey lets make our economy capitalist like the USA. Then we will be just as rich as they are. Let's pay down all of our debt (they have) let's get as much gold as they have(they've done that too) And ? How's that working ? Well. The Ruble still gets pushed around pretty easily. Why ? Because the west is rich because of imperialism. Not because it has good economic policies.

His plan comes across as naive as well. Why would anyone think that the US would just recognize any political settlements brokered by Russia, ever? Instead of you know, casually ignoring whatever piece of paper the Russians come up with and keep on doing what they were doing before. All those bases you so desired, well guess what, get ready to pack your bags because you just made it 100% easier for the US to replace Assad, the one dude that does have the legal power to eject foreigners from Syria, if not by bomb, but by ballot, or they could just fund some locals to give you a nice bit of Afghan hospitality to make your stay as memorable as theirs were.

Paul Antonopoulos
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My latest: "The coalition against Syria collapsed, with Turkey frustrated over the U.S.’ support for the YPG and the Arabs pivoting back to Syria as they are concerned over Turkey’s support for the Muslim Brotherhood and interference in Arab affairs."


Building up to be the next hot spot. Taking Ain Issa would allow Turkey to pressure both Raqqa and Manbij.

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Ain_Issa
An attack by the Tr/TFSA on SDF sites and violent clashes taking place in the village of Muallaq on the outskirts of Ain Issa.



Two maps, two views of what's what.

Why are these cockroaches still around? Idlib needs to be liberated asap and all these terrorists be purged

JohninMK wrote:[i]Status-6
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Russia "extremely alarmed" by the transfer of military equipment of the Turkish Armed Force....

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202103151082350836-russia-alarmed-by-transfer-of-turkish-armys-equipment-in-syrias-raqqa-military-says/

That is ominous wording. One has to wonder if they are planning to cause trouble in Syria and Ukraine at the same time.

@GarryB I've lived along Russian youngsters for years in China. The fact that they en masse flock to China masquerading as 'Matthew from Minnesota' and 'Kelly from Texas' to illegally teach Chinese kids - thereby risking detention, deportation and forfeiting of funds is a telling sign that the economic situation in Russia ain't all that rosy

There are lots of people running away from lots of countries for lots of different reasons... do you expect a complete picture from such people?

People running away from Saddams regime said all sorts of things about his chem weapons programmes which have since proven to be made up.

I wouldn't believe much from any youngsters from any country let alone ones moving to a foreign country.

People who love their country and succeed generally don't run away and try to start again... more often those that run away feel trapped or unable to develop and progress and think things might be easier in another country... well run away to America and you are a Russian in America... how do you get ahead in America if you complain that things were better in Russia? They don't want to hear that... they want to hear things are terrible in Russia... it would also explain why you left.

Russia is in no position to throw money away on 'humanitarian' projects in Syria.

I never said otherwise, but they have several air bases and their main naval port for the Med in Syria and that makes it worth the fight... the role of the Russian military is to fight the enemies of Russia and the enemies of Russia are amongst the enemies of the Syrian government forces so it makes sense to remain and to fight.

With withdrawal I don't mean abandoning all bases (some of which have been manned since the time of the USSR), I mean withdrawing from the actual theatre of war and working out a solution that (might) involve the de facto break up of Syria

I doubt the Syrian people would be happy to give up so much land to criminal elements. As Syria gets stronger and the opponents give up... Saudi Arabia seems to be changing its position now too and as a major supporter of ISIS this will come as a huge blow to their opposition.

As Russia and Assads forces targets oil revenue their enemies will be starved and it will only be a matter of time for the US to be interested in this conflict if it does not generate income like the poppy fields in Afghanistan or the oil fields in Iraq and Syria.

What if the Americans, the French (are they still there?) and the Turks don't want to leave?

I am sure they don't want to leave... but the Americans and French didn't want to leave Vietnam either... it is just a case of finding the right button and pushing it and offering them an alternative deal.

Is Russia going to go to war with them over Syrian sovereignty?

Russian goals to return Syria to a decent level is viewed with contempt by the west, because they have no intention of investing anything into the areas their surrogates control... why waste money on goat herders?

By that logic none of the other players - America, Turkey, Iran, etc. are in any position to exert tremendous blood and treasure in that quagmire either - and yet all of these countries have much worse internal situation than the one Russia is in but its Russia that has to fold - why?

Good question... the suggestion that America can afford it means nothing... because they clearly can't... and Turkey is in a much worse situation too.

The thing is as long as it costs them even more then Russia should absolutely keep this whole thing going.

The value of the situation in Syria for testing equipment and tactics and new weapons is enormous and is a rather efficient final testing ground for a lot of new systems. They are approaching a point where all new Drones with all new custom designed weapons for Drones are going to be tested and evaluated as a lot cost replacement for manned aircraft in a lot of roles to make things even cheaper.... the revenue in exports of such systems essentially pay for the war on their own.

Sales of combat proven air defence systems that were tested by Israeli F-35s and US F-22s and standoff weapons and drones of all types is invaluable too... before they could say this should be effective... or it has been effective in tests... but now they can show videos and produce proof of the effectiveness of these systems in their hands and in Syrian hands.

And how do these metrics prove that the average Russian has money to spend on 'humanitarian' missions abroad

Syria is a military anti terrorist mission.

The chance to sell out Syria was when the Saudis offered Russia billions of dollars and Russia refused.

Very true. The Saudis supported ISIS forces and offered to buy hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian weapons including SAMs and air defence systems and radar as well as Iskander missiles and other equipment... but clearly only if Russia stayed out of Syria...

Maintaining a small military base in a geographically relevant area does not equal fighting and endless insurgency somewhere in the desert

Do you understand using special forces to infiltrate terrorist areas and drones and satellites and air power to find and engage targets and also support Syrian government forces is not the same as what the Soviets were doing in Afghanistan or the US was doing in Vietnam?

but can and must not in any way engage in needless wars of attrition that can be turned on and off by foreign agitators that have a combined GDP 100 times the size of Russia's, have power over the world reserve currency and can create money at will

What war of attrition?

Russia is using cheap dumb iron bombs from altitudes totally safe from MANPADS and ground based gunfire with a navigation and attack system that offers near guided weapon accuracy.

Such attacks are accurate enough to be effective and cheap enough to continue for very long terms.

New unmanned drones with new weapons specifically designed for use with drones should make such strikes more effective and cheaper and able to be conducted essentially continuously.

New artillery rounds are being introduced with enormous range and guided accuracy that should allow point targets to be engaged at enormous range fairly cheaply.

Bunch of hypocrites on top of that. Half of the membership here is Russians living abroad. Just pack your bags and go back to Russia if its such a great economy. Strangely enough it's always roundtrips though.

Half the membership? I would say the vast majority of the membership are westerners in the west... the purpose of the website is to educate westerners about the real Russia rather than what is portrayed in western media or western government departments.

The bunch of you are much alike low IQ muzzies. All talk about how bad it is but too much of a cuck to actually say goodbye to comfort and hedonism and start building up your own country.

Pathetic.

I appreciate that Mike and some others have not been particularly nice, but careful where you direct your response there sunshine.

As for Russians living abroad, the moment they'd offer visa free travel half the Russian youth would be bunking three high in London and Berlin. You really aren't any different from the Poles, Bulgarians or Ukrainians. The fact that Russian girls are still hooking up with ugly greasy Westerners (or Chinese for that matter) says a lot.

I am a big fan of Russia/Putin and see it as one of the last bastions of normalcy, tradition and the natural /divine order but you guys should really get rid of the siege mentality and the fan boy-ism. You sound like a scorned woman when called fat.

Russia is collapsing so why are you a big fan of Putin and Russia?

Unless you are wrong, so why are you calling us pathetic for correcting your idea that Russia needs to leave Syria soon or Russia will collapse because they can't afford to be nice to other countries like the wonderful big hearted western countries are... look at all the countries they have saved afterall... Haiti is a utopia isn't it?

Asia is the place to be. Singapore, Japan, Malaysia, China, even CBDs in places like Manila, Saigon and Bangkok have many sharply dressed White business guys walking around these days

Ironic that western white guys in suits are going to such places their own countries have done so much to keep under the thumb and on a leash... but now such places are growing and expanding how long before the US and the EU turn their attentions to limit growth and ensure obedience to the west.

The future is in Asia and Russia is nicely placed to be part of it and benefit from it.

There is money in Asia and Europe wants to trade with Asia... the purpose of the North Sea Route is for trade between those two regions that reduced the transport times by 14 days and eliminates delays created by canal traffic and of course costs.

Rail links across Russia to the EU should also be factored in because there are fewer borders to cross...

You ranking lists India in its top 5. I can't take that as a serious metric. People that have been to India will understand.

Move outside a city in most countries and you will see a different world... there will be rural places in China where the idea of the 20th century is a dream let alone the 21st C...

There's not a lot of big dick energy going on in this thread. I guess the Russian economy is a sensitive point to posters here. I get it, lots of propaganda and all that, but it sure does feel a bit like an inferiority complex to be honest.

It is the most used weapon of the west... don't cry to us because it isn't working here.

I will refrain from further posting. Good luck with your fundamentalist view on geopolitics. I can only hope Putin has a bit more sense in his thinking. Biden is now 1. 5 months into office and the Ukraine is ready to explode, Syria can be stirred up at anytime, Armenia is a mess, Belarus has turned into a money pit and the Stans could get messy too

Biden is the invisible man... how many addresses has he made to the American public in almost two months in office... Ukraine is a joke... the Ukrainian military is a joke and is more likely to collapse that do anything to worry Russia. Syria stirred up offers Russia more potential to kill more terrorists, and Armenia is currently under control. Belarus needs to decide for itself, and the Stans are lost to Russia already no matter which way they turn it wont matter that much.

Biden administration continues the US policy of sending convoys full of military equipment and supplies to Syria, and smuggling out oil despite Pentagon denials.

Sounds like they need to target such convoys...

kvs wrote:

PhSt wrote:Why are these cockroaches still around? Idlib needs to be liberated asap and all these terrorists be purged

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There is some accommodation with Turkey to at least have some stabilization.   So a few bones are thrown its ways to keep
its precious jihadis "safe".   Russia is also letting the yanquis "control" the Kurd part on the north-east side of the Euphrates River.
No point of having a military confrontation with Turkey and the USA.   Rebuilding the rest of Syria takes priority.   Eventually
the Turk and yanqui clowns will be kicked out.

Kurds are NATO ally. US is protecting them and Turkey wants them dead.

It's better for Russia that US stay by their side so that Turkish/US relations suffer more. And when they will attack them it could lead to a conflict btw nato vs turkey.

This was announced a couple of days ago. It is a convoy of 10 petrol and/or diesel tankers on their way from Iran to Beirut via the Al-Qaim border crossing into Syria carrying fuel specifically for civil government vehicles there. A high risk journey.

spriters
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Syrian desert, location known. Iranian oil tankers for Lebanon.

@garry

The problem is, we keep having to repeated over and over and over again to every new jerk off who joins the site, spewing things he doesn't understand but likes to think he does. We get psuedo economists who says Russia can do this or that, but then prompts KVS, myself and others who have time and time again stated is bullshit and provide sources, graphs, data, etc proving how wrong they are. All for another one to shit all over the place yet again.

Eventually it becomes tiring and no real discussion will ever happen because no one whom is interested will post anymore as they are tired of having to repeated themselves over and over again.

Instead, a general, locked thread with raw data and links and graphs and what not should be created and then used to link every individual who spews same nonsense so that their post gets edited with that and a mods message.

That's only nice way I can think of doing it.

I would vote KVS to do it and I and other provide sources to assist.

Currently there is another IDF Air Strike against Damacus or this time from the USA?

@Mike

I understand exactly what you are saying in defence, but you should still not give in to abuse...

Your idea has merit... if you guys want to formulate a special thread with just the facts I can lock it so it does not turn into a discussion and can be used to refer people who believe western media BS.

I can unlock it periodically with updated figures and perhaps videos of change to highlight the changes.

This is next level stuff that Russia is trying to pull off, hopefully Russia succeeds.

"In the past few weeks much has happened in the area of diplomacy on the part of Russia. Russia is forging ahead after stepping up its presence in the Middle East in the past decade, taking a strong pro-active political role. Moscow during this period has been intent on consolidating its efforts in re-establishing itself as the key player in any political settlements in the Middle East. Ever since Kissinger in the late 1970’s pulled the rug out from underneath the feet of the USSR, striking a deal between Israel and Egypt, excluding the USSR and the rest of the Arab World, the political influence of Russia in the Middle East significantly waned until it came back with deciding force when Russia responded to the Syrian Government’s request for help in September 2015.

Lately, the economic crisis has deepened in Syria following the drastic Western sanctions. And specifically after the implementation of the Caesar’s Act, the Syrian currency took a huge tumble and the cost of living has soared to unprecedented levels. This left many cynics wondering and pondering what was Russia going to do in the face of the collapsed Syrian economy after having achieved an impressive military victory, taking its troops outside its former USSR borders for the first time and heralding the end of the single super power status of the USA.

To this effect, and on the diplomatic side, Russian FM Lavrov has recently visited Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE for talks pertaining to an array of issues. The agenda issues that transpired to the media include trade, the Russian Sputnik V vaccine, as well as issues of global and regional security, albeit vague in details as what ‘security issues’ mean.

It appears that in these meetings, discussions included the return of Syria to the Arab League and the cost of reconstruction of Syria after ten years of war, a bill touted to exceed $Bn200. Expectations have existed for some time that the Arab Gulf states will fork out a huge chunk of this cost. As mentioned above, the bottom line here is that Russia’s military success in its operation in Syria needs to be followed by political success. Partly, this is achieved within the Astana talks which include Turkey and Iran. However, the very same Arab States instrumental in the ‘War on Syria’ are also instrumental in facilitating the return of Syria to the Arab League, the reconstruction efforts in Syria and the easing of sanctions. The Gulf states have always reiterated that there will no return of Syria to the Arab League for as long as Iranian forces remain on the ground. The UAE seemed more open than Saudi Arabia to the prospects of Syria’s return to the Arab League and financing the reconstruction process.

But why would the Gulf States, the same states that spent tens of billions of dollars in order to destroy Syria, be suddenly now interested in the reversal of the process? This is a fair question to ask.

Quite unexpectantly, and almost immediately after the return of Lavrov to Moscow, a top delegation of Hezbollah, headed by Mohamad Raad, was invited to Moscow for talks. Apparently, the visit was cloaked in a veil of secrecy in Russia and was not at all covered in Western media, even though it made news in Arabic mainstream media. It would be politically naïve to imagine that Lavrov’s visit to the Gulf has no relation to this. All issues in the Middle East are related to each other, including the war in Yemen.

To put it succinctly, the UAE had already stepped away from the Yemen war. However, Saudi Arabia remains bogged down in this travesty and seven years on, must have come to the humiliating and painful realization that it is a war it cannot win. This is where Iran and Hezbollah can have leverage in any direct or indirect negotiations with the Saudis, and Russia is the only arbitrator who is able to communicate with all parties involved.

All parties in the Middle East are looking for face-saving tradeoffs; at least partial and interim ones. The Saudis in particular are tired and exhausted,

In an interview given to Sputnik Arabic, one not widely reported in other media, not even Sputnik English, Raad praised the cooperation between Hezbollah and Russia, stating that ‘the invitation we received aims to reopen the dialogue about the next phase after having reached the achievements that serve the interests of the people of the region in the recent past’ .

This is Raad’s first visit to Moscow since 2011. Of that visit, I am not trying to speculate in hindsight of the purpose of it and the achievements of it. Furthermore, Hezbollah has not ever been party to any international dis-engagement or peace negotiations in the past, except for ones relating to exchange of prisoners. The economic demise of Syria and Lebanon, as well as the Saudi-Yemeni impasse, may well have placed Hezbollah in a position of participating in peace-deals negotiations this time.

I am neither referring to peace deals with Israel here, nor any deal involving disarmament. Hezbollah will not be prepared to negotiate disarming itself under any political settlement either today or in the foreseeable future, and Moscow is totally aware of this.

According to my analysis, the deal that Moscow is most likely to suggest is a mutual withdrawal of Iran and Hezbollah from Syria on one hand, and an end of the Saudi war on Yemen. It is simple, Saudi Arabia to leave Yemen and Iran/Hezbollah to leave Syria. I believe that Lavrov has already secured the Saudi acceptance of those terms, terms that will not only end the war in Yemen, but also the return of Syria to the Arab League and a possible easing of the Western economic sanctions on Syria. Had Lavrov not secured the Saudi assurance, he would not have invited Hezbollah for talks.

A deal of this nature can potentially end the criminal human tragedy in Yemen in a manner that will portray the Saudis as the real losers in the war, and this is where they need a face-saving trade-off in Syria. In Syria, they will be perceived as winners by securing an Iranian/Hezbollah exit. But most importantly perhaps for the Saudis, this will put an end to a very costly and humiliating war in Yemen, one which is beginning to draw criticism from some quarters of the international community, including alleged talk of America considering placing arms deal embargos on Saudi Arabia.

On the other hand, if Iran and Hezbollah end their presence in Syria, many sanctions are likely to be lifted and the severe economic pressure in Syria will be eased. Such a deal will be a humanitarian win for Syria and Yemen, a strategic win for Saudi Arabia and Iran, and a diplomatic win for Russia.

What will be in it for Hezbollah will largely depend on what Lavrov has put on the table, and it seems obvious that it is Hezbollah that will need more convincing than Iran, and this is why the talks are now with Hezbollah; not with Iranian officials. Perhaps the deal already has the tacit approval of Iranian officials.

It goes without saying; Israel will be watching these developments with keen interest. Israel wants Iran and Hezbollah out of Syria. But the trade-off deal I am talking about is not one in which Israel is a direct party.

What is known at this stage is that a meeting has already taken place between the Hezbollah delegation and Russian officials. As I write this, I am not aware if other meetings are to follow and or whether or not the Hezbollah delegation is back in Lebanon.

Was the 2011 Moscow visit of Raad a prelude for Hezbollah to enter Syria? Will the 2021 visit be prelude for Hezbollah to leave Syria? We don’t know. We may never find out the actual detailed outcome of the mysterious-but-not-so-mysterious current Hezbollah visit. It may not even end up with a press release, but in the next coming days, we will find out if a Syria-Yemen trade-off is indeed looming."

https://thesaker.is/trade-off-looming-on-syria-and-yemen/

A US patrol stopped to speak with villagers and discuss the service situation in the village of Karhawk (Tel al-Arab), northeast #Syria. @CJTFOIR
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We'll showing now the US device used. This makes a simple cat and mouse game no longer possible. The are no US Patrolia anymore. This is clearly big device.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:A US patrol stopped to speak with villagers and discuss the service situation in the village of Karhawk (Tel al-Arab), northeast #Syria. @CJTFOIR
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We'll showing now the US device used. This makes a simple cat and mouse game no longer possible. The are no US Patrolia anymore. This is clearly big device.

The US venturing out in their Bradleys rather than MRAPs. I suppose it depends on what transport each outpost has rather than necessarily the level of perceived risk.