Problems with Star Wars vs reality, and plots in those movies in general

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Hole wrote:

That's an interesting hull indeed

Idk man I heard it has a weak spot where one lucky shot takes it out, Seems like terrible design to me

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Idk man I heard it has a weak spot where one lucky shot takes it out, Seems like terrible design to me

I heard it was intentional sabotage

One of the lead designers was working for the enemy

It is rather funny that the intentionally designed weakspot is only vulnerable to an absurdly lucky shot or a shot guided by space magic and not something more exploitable.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Idk man I heard it has a weak spot where one lucky shot takes it out, Seems like  terrible design to me

Hollywood revisionist propaganda bullcrap! They only showed the last blow to make it appear it was brought down by one guy, the "Hero", conveniently ignoring all the damage it had taken over the course of the long battle.

The-thing-next-door wrote:It is rather funny that the intentionally designed weakspot is only vulnerable to an absurdly lucky shot or a shot guided by space magic and not something more exploitable.

It's perfectly exploitable by standard shot

It's just that terrorists in question opted to use space magic instead of computer after previous one lucked out

With Pantsir-M guarding the weak spot the Empire would still exist.

PapaDragon wrote:

It's perfectly exploitable by standard shot

It's just that terrorists in question opted to use space magic instead of computer after previous one lucked out

If you are the lead designer and want to sabotage it but not have it blow up when first test fired perhaps you should just design the dish is a way that would cause it to catastrophically fail if it recieved any battle damage and if questioned claim that you cannot see any way around it. Or better just include a disguised self destruct in the air vents and tell your rebel friends about it, due to their policy of abducting nearby craft rather than firing on the getting on the death star would be rather easy.

A shaft that long is a 1 in 10 000 000 shot and they only attempted it out of desperation and only succeeded because of the force and
their plot armor.

Hole wrote:With Pantsir-M guarding the weak spot the Empire would still exist. Very Happy

That is what I would always think when seeing capital ships be defeated by attackers at point blank range, that and get some bloody missiles on your ships.

You could add a poll on top about which of 11 Star Wars movies is the best​

Let's have some fun

GarryB wrote:Polls are limited to 10 choices sadly...

Just ditch Solo, I doubt it's anyone's favorite (if it is it would barely count as rounding error)

Personally i am a trekkie

I've just completed watching Star Wars The Episode IX and I feel disappointed about the whole sequel trilogy.

I's just a rehash of the Original Trilogy. It would be much more ambitious to turn the Thrawn trilogy or the Yuuzhan Vong trilogy into movies.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:I've just completed watching Star Wars The Episode IX and I feel disappointed about the whole sequel trilogy.

I's just a rehash of the Original Trilogy. It would be much more ambitious to turn the Thrawn trilogy or the Yuuzhan Vong trilogy into movies.

The problem it suffers from is not only bad uninspired writing, they also had their list of checkboxes which they needed to check.

strong female
gay
black guy
some love story involving interracial relationship

Did I miss something?

The sequels have been only bearable because...
a) It's Star Wars and the nostalgia was forcing me to see it
b) some funny and awesome battle scenes
c) because some of the old cast were involved.

I find it a bid morbid that they made CGI Carry Fisher after shie died, but Disney doesn't give a shit about how the family feels seeing their beloved one being totally unreal.

The Thrawn Trilogy would have been a much better choice. You get a story that
1. logically follows the Episode VI (the Sequels don't)
2. is very well written
3. is known to all hardcore SW fans
4. isn't the Original Trilogy v2.0

Except it would have to get a different director.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The Thrawn Trilogy would have been a much better choice. You get a story that
1. logically follows the Episode VI (the Sequels don't)
2. is very well written
3. is known to all hardcore SW fans
4. isn't the Original Trilogy v2.0

Except it would have to get a different director.

Star Wars for all of its limitations had a lot of potential for interesting movies. They could have made something in the vein
of Mysteries of the Sith. Instead, they focused on cheesy PC rubbish. Pandering never gives a good product. Too many
contradictory demands from the feelings-challenged, intolerant, sanctimonious brown shirts on social media. These clowns
should never be pandered to, they need to be publicly shamed and ostracized.

Sequels aren't bad because of PC. They are simply repetitive. Disney decided to make a new trilogy that is like the old one, we have Darth Vader v2.0, Death Star v2.0, (sort of ) Palpatine v2.0, Tatooine v2.0 and a sort of Luke-Leia crossover. All of that is bad as the prequels already had a lot of references to OT.

The new movies don't have to be a rehash of the old ones in order to be interesing. They can be a new formula and don't even have to be about Skywalkers.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Sequels aren't bad because of PC. They are simply repetitive. Disney decided to make a new trilogy that is like the old one, we have Darth Vader v2.0, Death Star v2.0, (sort of ) Palpatine v2.0, Tatooine v2.0 and a sort of Luke-Leia crossover. All of that is bad as the prequels already had a lot of references to OT.

The new movies don't have to be a rehash of the old ones in order to be interesing. They can be a new formula and don't even have to be about Skywalkers.

A plot cannot be interesting if the primary concern of the director and his bosses is pushing PC narratives. The lack of originality is predicated
on having priorities other than the story to make these movies. I watched them too and they were superficial pap. But that is what almost
everything out of Hollywood is today and for decades already. But even Hollywood can produce something that holds some interest. CGI
effects and brainless action coupled with drivel-logue are stale and boring.

The problems with start wars universe and movies are so many , that i could write  a book
about it, and is not worth of saving that over rated crap. For the only thing i watch their movies
is for the special effects ,the monsters , the space ships are cool , and some uniforms too.
but if you try to immerse in their story , is like walt disney story for children.

With the gazillions trillions ,amount of money that hollywood spend in that super over rated
universe , they should just drop that universe already , and leave it in the past and start something else..  but they will never do that ,because of the ammount of merchandize they have created to sell
from tshirts to mouse pads , and this is a major part of american culture.. i rather take any day
start trek movie over star wars.. but the best space movies drama that america have are alien movies of the creepy creature that grows and terrorize people in a space ship , and the new direction the movie is taking make it better by the time.

So what is wrong  with star wars ?

1) the story is super infantile and amateurish to say the least..
   good boys vs bad guys.. move to the "dark side" luke skywalker.. don't resist.
   but you never see that "dark side in the entire movie" is just words.

2)the lazer guns sucks donkey balls.

3) r2d2 and c3po sucks elephant balls.

4)chubaka..??     why in hell that retarded thing in in the game ,not only looks like
   a halloween costume ,but is annoying too in the movie.
5) yoda , looks like a children toy.. is bad makeup    
6)dark vader.. is the gayest villain in the entire movie industry.  if you plan to make a bad guy
 make it right , not like someone in a halloween costume.

7) the white storm troopers.. why they use that mask ? does it provide them oxygen ? or any
   protection?    
8)the teddy bears..   the jawas?  and the singing..    

star wars biggest problem is that the entire movie is just looks , is just cosmetics ,all words , all acting , is all superficial , is an all ages universe oriented for children to buy their toys ,but when i was a kid , i never liked it either.. lol

So i only watch star wars for the special effects and costumes ,space ships , but could care less about the story .. because is not that immersive.

interestingly i find their video games much better ,more immersive than the movies.. kind of rare.

Hollywood who have money , all they need to do is buy the rights of  Games workshop , or better
buy the company , and replace star wars with warhammer 40k.  is a million times superior in every way. the warhammer 40k universe is super awesome , there are real bad guys there , and the outfits
are very cool.

So this is the problem.. hollywood have all the money ,but waste i it to produce crappy universes
like star wars ,wonderwoman , captain america ,gi joe and other crap ,is..

Games workshop have an amazing universes in warhammer 40k  ( and warhammer fantasy ,an universe that inspired lords of the rings books and movies and that blizzard stole/copied for their games) but the problem of games workshop is that they don't have the money of hollywood and so
they only limit to publish books ,build miniatures to paint and board games.    

so when you have the video game industry ,or even fan videos in their homes ,put to shame
a multibillionaire start wars industry , in terms of better world and story and immersion then you
know Star wars sucks big time and the only reason they promote it ,is because makes money in merchandize sales.. but make no mistake warhammer universe is a million times better ,there is
no "good side" and "dark side" .. and the variety of protagonist alien races ,not just for a beer bar fight ,but actually fight the human race is far more variety.

Why Star war universe sucks.. ? look how much more interesting the competition stories
can do with a million times less budget than hollywood.

warhammer 40k = space alternative future focused story
warhammer fantasy = a medieval times variation with orcs ,elf ,humans ,dwarf and many others.

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr - Cinematic Release Trailer


warhammer fantasy cinematic
Total War: Warhammer 2 - Cinematic Announcement Trailer


fan made mini movie clip..of warhammer 40k universe..


another mini cinematic of w40k



Star wars sucks ,because is infantile story telling ,is all cosmetics , is children and teens aimed ,
they have been improving in latest star wars movies , but still is a cosmetic story ,with cosmetic
characters to the largest part , that you simply don't care at all to know more about any character.

who wants to know about chubaka or r2d2 past?  or yoda past?  Star wars universe is silly dumb
universe. and looks very amateurish.. the alien races in the movie are mostly cosmetic , just to fill
the environment in a beer bar.


Warhammer 40k universe is more similar to how real life could be in a thousands of years, if anglo system allowed to do all they want , is very dark , is very HUGE , and the story is amazing and endless , is an universe that truly makes you think how could the future of humanity could be.. there is a lot of engineering genetics and racism like real life , a lot of innovation in new things never seen before.. like alien-necro robots? biological space ships with animal form, there is a lot of artificial intelligence robots ,with self life ,there are biological technology spaceships , there are genetically modified super humans ,reincarnation subject too , and the weapons are combination of medieval era with high tech.  in the other side the warhammer fantasy side of the universe , is lords of the rings on steroids.. all american fantasy movies and games from  lords of the rings and blizard fantasy online are heavily shamefull imitations copies in an extremely simplified way ,from the warhammer universe.