2020–2021 Belarusian protests

flamming_python wrote:

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

auslander wrote:

Classes are not in Ukrainian and never were. There was one school in Bahxchisarai that used Tatar language but that school folded when Mejlis ran for the hills 'long about 26 February 2014.

Schools today are taught in Russian. Ukrainian and Tatar languages are offered as courses in the main school curriculum, as are English, French and German, the later two if there is enough demand for a full class. I do not know the number of schools that offer Tatari but I would aver that what few that do are in and around Bahxchisarai, the old Tatar Khanate capitol. Ukrainian, I have no idea which schools and where offer that language, but I know for a fact that no school on north side of harbor in Sevastopol have that language class, there is zero demand.

again, thank you very much for the extensive answer.
It would have pleased to me if heard that classes were also offered on Italian,  since a part of Crimea used to be a Geonese colony before the Tatars... unfortunately the fake state that is modern Italy has no interest in bringing culture abroad (except for food)

Na all the Italians were deported from Crimea to Central Asia along with Crimean Tatars, Greeks, Armenians, etc...
And I'm guessing they all assimilated into other populations since because I've never heard of Soviet Italians. Or maybe they were sent to Italy after the war.

The Crimean Khanate, a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, succeeded the Golden Horde and lasted from 1449 to 1783.[33] During the period of the Crimean Khanate the many pre-Catherine peoples, including Crimean Greeks, Italians, Goths, Cumans, and Kipchkaks of Crimea merged into the Crimean Tatar nation's Tat, Yaliboylu, and Steppe (or Nogay) subgroups

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:^^' Ultimately none of this matters now.

There are no Greeks in Crimea. Some methinks are still left in Ukraine and Russia (Pontic Greeks). I wonder if they still speak their language (Romeika)

Firebird wrote:Does anyone know whats happened to RT... or the English one?
It seems to have become a den of Neoliberal Atlantic integrationism.
Any criticism of homosexuals, America/Neoliberalism etc means censorship. ANd some of its articles are just plain daft these days.
Its about as "Russian state centric" as Shitlary Clinton.

Here's their latest nonsense saying that Belarus will basically become part of the Yankee empire.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/498296-lukashenko-belarus-sovereign-state/

Personally I think Putin should play hardball with Belarus.
And the Ukraine is still a long way from joining the Eurasian Union.

Firebird wrote:Does anyone know whats happened to RT... or the English one?
It seems to have become a den of Neoliberal Atlantic integrationism.
Any criticism of homosexuals, America/Neoliberalism etc means censorship. ANd some of its articles are just plain daft these days.
Its about as "Russian state centric" as Shitlary Clinton.

Here's their latest nonsense saying that Belarus will basically become part of the Yankee empire.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/498296-lukashenko-belarus-sovereign-state/

Personally I think Putin should play hardball with Belarus.
And the Ukraine is still a long way from joining the Eurasian Union.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yes they want him gone but their main problem is can the Russians replace him on such short notice.

Going by the way Russia has been acting towards Luka it's clear they would not cry at his removal but they aren't in a position to ensure if he does step down the person who takes his place will play ball with them.

In the end, for now, Russia needs him to stay in power and it's clear ONCE again they have been caught with their pants down.

The main goal for the Russians should be to add Belarus to the federation (Putin is on record wanting this), otherwise, they keep taking these same risks with and you only need one fuck up to completely lose Belarus

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yes they want him gone but their main problem is can the Russians replace him on such short notice.

Going by the way Russia has been acting towards Luka it's clear they would not cry at his removal but they aren't in a position to ensure if he does step down the person who takes his place will play ball with them.

In the end, for now, Russia needs him to stay in power and it's clear ONCE again they have been caught with their pants down.

The main goal for the Russians should be to add Belarus to the federation (Putin is on record wanting this), otherwise, they keep taking these same risks with and you only need one fuck up to completely lose Belarus

JohninMK wrote:Looks like someone important arrived from Moscow yesterday in a Tu-214TPU. FSB?

par far wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yes they want him gone but their main problem is can the Russians replace him on such short notice.

Going by the way Russia has been acting towards Luka it's clear they would not cry at his removal but they aren't in a position to ensure if he does step down the person who takes his place will play ball with them.

In the end, for now, Russia needs him to stay in power and it's clear ONCE again they have been caught with their pants down.

The main goal for the Russians should be to add Belarus to the federation (Putin is on record wanting this), otherwise, they keep taking these same risks with and you only need one fuck up to completely lose Belarus

Agree with you Seig, that keeping Luka in power should be in Russia's interests.

The opposition is CIA controlled, they want to leave all alliances with Russia and join the EU and NATO.

This sends the wrong message to other countries that are in alliances with Russia.

"A CLOSER LOOK AT BELARUSIAN OPPOSITION’S HEAVILY ANTI-RUSSIAN NATIONAL POLICY PLANS."

https://southfront.org/a-closer-look-at-belarusian-oppositions-heavily-anti-russian-national-policy-plans/

Belarus is not joining Russia - that ship has sailed. The Russian political elite including Putin show zero interest in actually incorporating any former republics with the notably exception of Crimea. People under 35 in Belarus and Ukraine have totally drank the Western social media/Hollywood kool-aid. They are not interested in becoming part of Russia. Only the total collapse of the western model including the EU/NATO and its financial system would create a possibility of Russia expanding and the Russian financial elite and oligarchs have no interest in seeing that scenario.

People under 35 in Belarus and Ukraine have totally drank the Western social media/Hollywood kool-aid.

calripson wrote:

par far wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yes they want him gone but their main problem is can the Russians replace him on such short notice.

Going by the way Russia has been acting towards Luka it's clear they would not cry at his removal but they aren't in a position to ensure if he does step down the person who takes his place will play ball with them.

In the end, for now, Russia needs him to stay in power and it's clear ONCE again they have been caught with their pants down.

The main goal for the Russians should be to add Belarus to the federation (Putin is on record wanting this), otherwise, they keep taking these same risks with and you only need one fuck up to completely lose Belarus

Agree with you Seig, that keeping Luka in power should be in Russia's interests.

The opposition is CIA controlled, they want to leave all alliances with Russia and join the EU and NATO.

This sends the wrong message to other countries that are in alliances with Russia.

"A CLOSER LOOK AT BELARUSIAN OPPOSITION’S HEAVILY ANTI-RUSSIAN NATIONAL POLICY PLANS."

https://southfront.org/a-closer-look-at-belarusian-oppositions-heavily-anti-russian-national-policy-plans/

Belarus is not joining Russia - that ship has sailed. The Russian political elite including Putin show zero interest in actually incorporating any former republics with the notably exception of Crimea. People under 35 in Belarus and Ukraine have totally drank the Western social media/Hollywood kool-aid. They are not interested in becoming part of Russia. Only the total collapse of the western model including the EU/NATO and its financial system would create a possibility of Russia expanding and the Russian financial elite and oligarchs have no interest in seeing that scenario.