2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

We saw this coming from a galaxy far far away:

Ukraine closes criminal case against Biden
https://twitter.com/yenanoha/status/1326199627385884672

Ukrainians are becoming bathroom cleaners in Poland, it's only fitting they start squirting water up Bidet's butt, and I'm sure his son would want to join in the activities!

Just a reminder that Biden is neither currently President or President-elect. Nor is he or his people, still private citizens, allowed onto any Federal site in any role associated with those roles, including installing transition staff or talking to foreign governments.

This is an excellent analysis of where to now, left in normal text for clarity.


The U.S. Presidential Election is NOT Over. Here's Where Things Stand Right Now...
Phoenix Capital Research
Mon, 11/09/2020 - 09:22

Disclaimer: none of the following is meant to be political analysis. I am not endorsing nor disparaging any candidate. I’m simply outlining the facts pertaining to the U.S. Presidential election.

I want to warn you that the next few months in the U.S. will be extremely ugly. The country was already deeply divided before this election. And unfortunately, it’s only going to get worse. The fact is that Joe Biden HASN’T actually won this election yet.

That is not a typo. The media has done the U.S. a great disservice by claiming that Biden is the winner this early in the game. Everyone needs to take a step back and understand how the actual election process occurs based on federal law, not media reporting.

1) The election occurs in early November.

2) Votes are tallied while officials from both parties (Democrat and GOP) are present.

3) Provided officials from both parties are present during the vote tallies and there are:

No credible accusations of fraud.
No software glitches.

Then the vote tallies are ratified.

4) If the vote margin between winner and loser is 0.5% or smaller, an automatic recount is required.

5) If the margin between the winner and loser is larger than 0.5%, but either candidate (or a 3rd candidate for that matter) wants to dispute the results, he or she can pay to have a recount performed. The cost if roughly $3 million per state.

6) Once the recount is completed, or if a recount is not necessary, the individual states formally declare the winner on December 14th when they officially cast their electoral college votes for him or her.

7) Then, in early January of the next year, the new congress meets to count the electoral college votes and formally declare the winner.

The new President is sworn into office on January 20th.

This is how Presidential elections work in the U.S. under normal circumstances.

The media cannot decide who wins. The media can simply project who they think will win based on vote totals at a given time. And unless the loser formally concedes prior to December 14th, the election remains in play.

So where are we in terms of the 2020 Presidential election?

For starters, the races in multiple states (Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona) are close enough to require mandatory recounts (within a margin of 0.5%).

On top of this, the Trump administration will be filing lawsuits in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona alleging fraud, illegitimate votes being counted, and GOP officials being barred from witnessing the ballots being tallied.

Whether or not the Trump administration is right about this remains to be seen.

However, the fact lawsuits are being filed means the election will move into the courts. If the courts decide that the evidence the Trump administration presents is compelling, they can require a formal vote audit.

If, during the vote audit, actual fraud is discovered, the court can rule that those votes are no longer valid, the formal vote counts can change, and it is possible that a given state ends up declaring a different winner.

Even if fraud is not discovered by the audits, but there is a particular problem with vote cards (the wrong type of ink was used, the hole punch didn’t go all the way through the ballot as was the case in Florida in 2000, etc.), the courts can deem those problematic votes as illegitimate.

This again can mean the formal vote counts can change, and it is possible that a given state ends up declaring a different winner.

Mind you, that’s if the courts resolve the issue to everyone’s liking on the first go round.

If either party or candidate is dissatisfied with a lower court’s ruling, they can appeal the ruling, which can result in the lawsuit moving up to a higher court, eventually reaching the Supreme Court, which serves as the ultimate arbiter of election law in the U.S.

This was the case with the 2000 election, when the Supreme Court ruled that vote cards from Florida that didn’t have clean hole punches were NOT valid, which gave the state to George W. Bush and resulted in Al Gore conceding the election on December 13th.

None of the above items are conspiracy theory or wishful thinking. These are the actual facts of how Presidential elections are decided in the U.S. The media doesn’t decide elections. And technically, Joe Biden is NOT the President elect, no matter how much certain people might want him to be.

Remember, he wouldn’t be formally declared the President Elect until December 14th 2020, and that’s under normal circumstances. And as I mentioned already, this election is anything but normal.

I mention all of this to help you keep a clear head during what is going to be an extremely stressful and psychologically draining four-week period between now and that date.

Again, this election WILL not be decided before December 14th. And it’s possible things run even longer than that.

Graham Summers
Chief Market Strategist
Phoenix Capital Research

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-11-09/us-presidential-election-not-over-heres-where-things-stand-right-now

The US may be an empire but clearly it is going off the rails. What is exactly the point of the D. Party frauding their way into
a de facto one-party monopoly. What was wrong with the D. and R. balance? The claim that this is normal is not credible
and it really is a type of soft civil war. Whether it becomes hard is not the issue. The issue is what is causing this stress?
The only empirically justified explanations is the attenuation of economic inputs from around the world and the associated
decline in political power. All empires hit this stage. If they did not, then we would have been living under some ancient
empire.

Growing economic inequality seems to be the cause. The upper and upper middle classes have actually increased significantly in size over past 50 years but for the rest of society standard of living has decreased significantly This is the same kind of stuff that caused the French Revolution, the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-were-grilling-hell-out-me-usps-whistleblower-stands-backdated-ballot-claim-after

The amount of MSM propaganda propping up Biden is insane. These journalist maggots are going after American patriots (i.e.
people who have standards and don't want to see their country be a 3rd world toilet) like they are criminals. This is "enemies
of the people" in the initial stages. Eventually they will be packing gulags with millions to make sure that America is "safe".

People need to appreciate what the MSM is. It was there in the 1930s in Germany and it was there in the 30s in the USSR.
It has also been there in one way or another in the USA engaging in manufacturing hysteria and public opinion based on false
narratives. The MSM is the linchpin of totalitarianism. But people think that they get valuable information and truth for free
because some advertisers paid for some ads. People believe in a free lunch. Information is power so don't expect the primary
spigot of information to remain untouched. Over the last 30+ years the consolidation of the US MSM into the hands of a few
oligarchs has been spectacular.

Big brother realized after the Vietnam war, the power of the MSM which had turned the public against the war and cost them their profit making. New wars were made as the MSM was bought out piece by piece. IMHO this was accomplished by the turn of the century in the USA.

kvs wrote:
The amount of MSM propaganda propping up Biden is insane.

The Democrats have already changed from "no electoral fraud" to "no significant electoral fraud".

Can you imagine the angst that will surface once the allegations of fraud start to go through the court system?

Then if they win in court and huge numbers of votes are disallowed?

Then finally if Trump wins.

OMG it will be stupendous.

Australian parliament to probe Murdoch media dominance

Sydney (AFP)

Australia's parliament will launch an inquiry into media ownership, a prominent senator said Wednesday, after more than half a million people signed a petition demanding a probe into Rupert Murdoch's news dominance.

The online petition attracted a record number of signatories after being launched on October 12 by former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd, a frequent target of newspapers controlled by Murdoch's News Corp.

The Australian arm of the New York-headquartered company is the country's largest media organisation, owning papers in nearly every major city as well as cable television networks and magazines.

Senator Sarah Hanson-Young, a prominent politician from the minor Greens party, said the Senate had backed her push to probe the lack of news media diversity in Australia.

"Very glad to see the Senate support this and establish an inquiry immediately," she tweeted.

"Australians have become increasingly concerned about the concentration of media ownership and the power and political influence of Murdoch."

The country's opposition parties united behind the move in the Senate to effectively sidestep the conservative government, which enjoys strong support from the Murdoch press and had not acted on the petition's demand for a royal commission.

In launching the petition, Rudd decried News Corp as a "cancer on our democracy" operating an effective "monopoly".

"This power is routinely used to attack opponents in business and politics by blending editorial opinion with news reporting," the petition stated.

"These facts chill free speech and undermine public debate."

Rudd, who was prime minister from 2007 to 2010 and briefly in 2013, has long been critical of what he says is the media organisation's "vicious" campaigning for the political right.

The petition was signed 501,876 times on the national parliament's website, eclipsing the previous record of 404,538 signatures on a 2019 e-petition calling on the government to declare a climate emergency.

The petition also garnered support from former Liberal prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, who was ousted by hardline conservatives in a 2018 party coup supported by the Murdoch press.

2020 AFP

Hopefully other countries will follow

SeigSoloyvov wrote:I wouldn't get your hopes up the chances of this happening are like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001 Percent.

But if that did happen oh the tears would be funny to watch

Looks like it's not just the voting machines that have there numbers way off.

I'll bet money that people are gonna try and blame Y2K, for the "irregularities" too.

Growing economic inequality seems to be the cause. The upper and upper middle classes have actually increased significantly in size over past 50 years but for the rest of society standard of living has decreased significantly This is the same kind of stuff that caused the French Revolution, the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917

I half agree... the upper class and the upper middle class are tiny and they have gotten much richer... which makes sense... money makes money faster than labour can make it. You would need to have a special set of skills to earn more than half a million dollars a year and in many areas of work it is simply not possible to earn that much. Give me 100 million dollars and I can make a hell of a lot more than a million dollars a year... just buy 50 x 1 million dollar homes in big cities anywhere in the west and hold on to them for a year or two and they will double in value within 2 years... sell them off and double your money... more money than you could sensibly earn with manual labour... Hire a few sharks... sorry... accountants and they will likely advise you of a few companies that are doing rather badly that you can buy so you can essentially claim all your tax money back so you wont even need to pay tax for the next few years... like most rich people.

The point is that the middle class is moving towards being poor because house prices have become unaffordable and the 1% is getting smaller but also richer...

The Democrats have already changed from "no electoral fraud" to "no significant electoral fraud".

Can you imagine the angst that will surface once the allegations of fraud start to go through the court system?

Then if they win in court and huge numbers of votes are disallowed?

Then finally if Trump wins.

OMG it will be stupendous.

It would be hilarious, but also their best chance of a civil war which would be bloody and devastating and something I would not wish on anyone...

I wouldn't get your hopes up the chances of this happening are like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001 Percent.

But if that did happen oh the tears would be funny to watch

Yeah, you are correct but I seem to remember last election Hillary was going to win and Trumps chances only had two or three less zeros in it than the number you just gave... but I wont hold my breath...  

The petition was signed 501,876 times on the national parliament's website, eclipsing the previous record of 404,538 signatures on a 2019 e-petition calling on the government to declare a climate emergency.

Honestly the monopoly of western media by the 1% is more of a threat to democracy and the world than climate change and ISIS all rolled in to one.

Looks like it's not just the voting machines that have there numbers way off.

I'll bet money that people are gonna try and blame Y2K, for the "irregularities" too.

I read somewhere the vote counting software for a lot of swing states was developed by a company owned by Nancy Pelosi... I am sure it is fine...

The real face of American "democracy".

Imagine anything similar happening in Russia. There would be 24/7 hate spew from NATzO. That you have never heard any
such spew is actual evidence that it does not happen.

The 5th column in Russia has to play games with statistics to "prove" that there is fraud. I have seen these arguments and
they are being directly contradicted in the USA in a gross manner. So some physically viable variability in the opinion distribution
in Russian electoral districts is "evidence of fraud", but 4 am 139,000:0 aggregated state level vote swings in favour of Biden at
the last moment are somehow total absence of fraud.

The common theme with Russia haters of all species is the excrement they are prepared to shove down your throat and
their pissing in your eyes.

Jesus.

I case anyone was wondering what a NeverTrumper looks like.
He's like what happens if The Young Turks pretended to be Conservatives.

They love their opinion polls and statistics don't they... but the facts of the matter is that actual votes count and should be counted... opinions on the internet or news media mean nothing.

They have a voting system and they have a process which they have to follow and they are following.

Evidence of fraud seems to be rather stronger this year than evidence of Russian hackers were last election which seemed to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars to investigate wasting the time of various officials whose time would be better spent doing more productive things... the initial evidence was pathetic and proved to be imaginary yet there are still claims putin interfered in the last US election... who gives a fuck what these idiots think... let the courts decide.

State run propaganda orifice the CBC claims that ballot fraud never happened in the 2020 US election.

This is the same outfit that was filming outhouse holes in rural Russia in the 1990s to prove what a
"toilet" Russia was. Meanwhile aboriginal teenagers were both dying and giving themselves brain damage
on Canadian reservations aka ghettos by sniffing glue and gasoline.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/michigan-judge-denies-trump-bid-block-certification-election-audit

This is how US election fraud is legitimized.   Some hack judge who does not have the mental capacity to rule on the issue
can deny action in the face of brazen evidence of ballot fraud.   Recall that Michigan was one of the states where
you had massive 4 am swings in favour of Biden thanks to the mail in ballots after Biden was losing all night from regular
balloting.   No pro-Trump mail ballots came in.  

Why does Trump even need to ask a judge to rule on this issue.   He should have the authority to send in police (FBI)
investigation teams.   This is the same fakery as with so-called warrants.   Supposedly warrants protect the proletariat
from the state.   In reality they do no such thing.   They are used as a way to technically remove evidence and to let
connected perps walk free.   If the state needs a warrant on you, it will get one no matter what.

OOh god, imagine what would happen if Shoygu and Naryshkin lied to Putin about the number of troops and equipment in Syria for years on end.

How to gain Admin access to voting machine in under 5 min, no tools needed. (6:30)

First we had the fraudulent vote, now we have the fraudulent recount.

Nothing to see here, move along. CNN does not see any evidence of fraud so there must be none.

If you watch that video fully, they bring up Russian hacking and start making jokes. One of them is about standing in breadlines.

Americans are fully detached from reality living in their own fart bubble.

Breadlines are basically ancient history as far as Russia is concerned. If you are going to fixate on events before 1990 within a
modern context, then you have swallow the bitter pill that events before now matter for many questions such as the status
of Crimea. Americans and others don't care about what happened in 1954 and 1990 in the case of Crimea. Well, you are total
hypocrites.

And talking of breadlines, during the Covid-19 pandemic Russian store shelves were not emptied like in the USA due to panic.
Breadlines are linked to not just shortages of production, but also overly cheap prices and hoarding. So before joking about
Russian breadlines, fix your own first you cunts.

kvs wrote:If you watch that video fully, they bring up Russian hacking and start making jokes.   One of them is about standing in breadlines.

Americans are fully detached from reality living in their own fart bubble.

Breadlines are basically ancient history as far as Russia is concerned.   If you are going to fixate on events before 1990 within a
modern context, then you have swallow the bitter pill that events before now matter for many questions such as the status
of Crimea.   Americans and others don't care about what happened in 1954 and 1990 in the case of Crimea.   Well, you are total
hypocrites.

And talking of breadlines, during the Covid-19 pandemic Russian store shelves were not emptied like in the USA due to panic.
Breadlines are linked to not just shortages of production, but also overly cheap prices and hoarding.   So before joking about
Russian breadlines, fix your own first you cunts.

Crowder's mostly a troll for internal consumption anyways, doubt he knows anything about any countries outside of the US for that matter.
But yeah this election is still entertaining weeks after it happened, 2020 is a hell of a year.

kvs wrote:

First we had the fraudulent vote, now we have the fraudulent recount.

Nothing to see here, move along.   CNN does not see any evidence of fraud so there must be none.

Nothing to see here!