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    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #1

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    Post  Isos Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:18 am

    I wonder if he means by this "Neither of you choosed Russia to solve this so both fuck off and go beg US/Turkey to solve your shit".


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    At Valdai today, Putin said that Azerbaijan and Armenia are both equal partners of Russia and called the conflict a huge tragedy. 1344/


    Twitter isn't an accurate way to detail whats been lost....

    For Armenian loses it us since Turkish propaganda is mainly done on twitter... and they always share every hit from their drones.

    On the other hand Armenian don't use it too much but have used their ATGM and artillery very effectively since the start even if they loose some ground.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:36 am

    Turkey has also faked plenty of images and videos as seen in Libya and Syria.


    So their shit can't be trusted
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:04 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Yes Artsakh is Azeri in fact EVERY nation on earth minus Armenia considers it Azeri land.

    Actually even Armenia officially considers it Azeri land as well



    kvs wrote:The yanquis snookered themselves with their colour revolution in Armenia. They needed a new regime to trigger this war
    and then expected that Russia would heart bleed for Armenia and take the bait.
    ...

    Considering how Pasha was acting like a colossal retard with dumb things he was doing in the run-up to this and how he was writing checks that his country couldn't cover I agree that this is precisely what happened



    kvs wrote:...The question remains: if Armenia is not prepared to fight for NK, then why should Russia?

    Precisely

    Armenian military is still parked on it's ass and Pasha's solution to his irregular troops getting roasted is to just throw more civilian meat on the fire while all the expensive shiny toys are sitting in the garage



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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:46 am

    Update list of 1019 Azeri soldiers killed in Karabakh so far.

    https://twitter.com/KarabakhRecords/status/1319394264091164674
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:43 am


    On a humorous note even the great Gary Kasparov himself has expressed support for Armenia lol1

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=201345511360052&id=100044538125184

    Armenians online are creaming their pants and calling him most intelligent human being to ever walk the Earth (some people just can't read the room)

    I just wonder who genius here thinks should be getting Armenian asses out of the fire, surely not those disgusting undemocratic Russians?

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    On a humorous note even the great Gary Kasparov himself has expressed support for Armenia lol1

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=201345511360052&id=100044538125184

    Armenians online are creaming their pants and calling him most intelligent human being to ever walk the Earth (some people just can't read the room)

    I just wonder who genius here thinks should be getting Armenian asses out of the fire, surely not those disgusting undemocratic Russians?


    Kinda shows their intelligence overall.

    A third rate chess hack who sits and complains about Russia (who got him where he is today), is smart cause he tweeted something to show support.

    What a joke. I think Armenians deserve what they get.

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    Post  Isos Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:30 am

    Iran is sending a quite large force at the border. I think they don't like the idea that Turkry sends nusra guys there. Maybe they will be the big force that stops the war ?

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    An Iranian official said that, during the first 24 days of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, 68 missiles (presumably including rockets and UAVs) landed in Iran. He said that 71 missiles landed in Iran just today. 1351/
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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:09 am

    Seeing that Azer have taken back lost land. And they are now planning offensives into Armenian populated area, that it is good idea for them to get Iranian equipment. Drones etc. To stop the Turkish offensive, the desired prolongation of the war has  negative security implications for Iran. I think it important to even send operatives. To confront direct Turkish involvement. And  force a ceasefire. Stop any more ethnic cleansing of Armenians. The priority is to stop the Turkish  Erdogan expansionist war. Even if some Armenians are in bed with you know who. Deal with that problem later.


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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:18 am

    Isos wrote:Iran is sending a quite large force at the border. I think they don't like the idea that Turkry sends nusra guys there. Maybe they will be the big force that stops the war ?

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    An Iranian official said that, during the first 24 days of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, 68 missiles (presumably including rockets and UAVs) landed in Iran. He said that 71 missiles landed in Iran just today. 1351/

    It will be no different than Russia's forces at Azerbaijan's borders.

    It will be there simply to show that they too are ready and then nothing will come of it.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am

    George1 wrote:Losses of equipment of the parties in the current Karabakh war

    The authors of the well-known blog " Oryx" presented an updated version of their calculations of ground military equipment that was reliably lost in the current Karabakh war from September 27 to October 21, 2020 by the Armenian and Azerbaijani sides based on published photo and video materials. Of course, the data are obviously approximate and in some cases controversial, but, undoubtedly, are of interest. Damaged T-72 tanks of the armed forces of Armenia / NKR, captured by the Azerbaijani armed forces, at the collection point for captured equipment, October 2020 (c) frame from the video of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan

    According to the authors of the blog "Oryx", it can be recorded that the Armenian side has so far lost 138 T-72 tanks of various modifications (of which 44 fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 35 infantry fighting vehicles (16 BMP-1, 17 BMP-2 , two unidentified, of which a total of 14 fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 20 other armored vehicles (14 MT-LB with anti-aircraft guns, two MT-LB, one BTR-70, three unidentified, of which a total of four fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side ), two armored tractors BTS-2 (fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), two combat vehicles of self-propelled anti-tank systems (one 9P148 and 9P149 "Shturm-S", both fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 40 portable launchers of anti-tank systems, 12 self-propelled howitzers (four 2S3 and eight 2S1), 50 towed artillery pieces (two 2A36 "Hyacinth-B",11 D-20, seven D-1, one KS-19, 28 D-30, of which a total of 15 fell into the hands of the Azerbaijani side), 56 MLRS combat vehicles (51 BM-21 Grad, one 9A52 Smerch, two WM-80, one TOS-1A, one unidentified), nine different mortars, one self-propelled anti-aircraft gun ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", 15 self-propelled combat vehicles (three 9A35 SAM "Strela-10", 11 9A33 SAM " Osa-AK / AKM ", one 2A25 Kub air defense missile system), elements of the S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems, eight radars (four types ST-68U / UM and one P-18, 5N63S, 1S32 and 1S91 each), one launcher OTRK "Elbrus", 306 different cars.one unidentified), nine different mortars, one self-propelled anti-aircraft gun ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", 15 self-propelled combat vehicles (three 9A35 SAM "Strela-10", 11 9A33 SAM "Osa-AK / AKM", one 2A25 SAM "Cube"), elements of the S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems, eight radars (four types ST-68U / UM and one P-18, 5N63S, 1S32 and 1S91 each), one launcher for the Elbrus OTRK, 306 different vehicles.one unidentified), nine different mortars, one self-propelled anti-aircraft gun ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", 15 self-propelled combat vehicles (three 9A35 SAM "Strela-10", 11 9A33 SAM "Osa-AK / AKM", one 2A25 SAM "Cube"), elements of the S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems, eight radars (four types ST-68U / UM and one P-18, 5N63S, 1S32 and 1S91 each), one launcher for the Elbrus OTRK, 306 different vehicles.306 different cars.306 different cars.

    Also, according to the authors of the blog "Oryx", it can be recorded that 23 tanks were reliably lost from the Azerbaijani side (two T-90S and 21 T-72, and one T-72 was returned by the Azerbaijani side), 17 infantry fighting vehicles (two BMP -1, 11 BMP-2, one BMP-3, three unidentified), five armored personnel carriers BTR-82A, two armored vehicles (one Matador and one Sand Cat), one engineering vehicle IMR-2, 13 different vehicles.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4169404.html

    NKA doesn't have 138 tanks. The current strike tally is due to many reruns on the strike and multiple angles strikes were taken, including HAROP hits filmed by TB-2's that you can them claim were two tanks hit by two different systems.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:43 pm

    Updated names and photos of 700 Azeri soldiers killed in Karabakh so far.

    https://m.facebook.com/herbimedia/
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:47 pm


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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:25 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #1 - Page 40 14-Karabakh-map-22oct20-1aba99-en

    That mountain is a fortress. Plus it's on the border with Armenia. Unless Azerbaijan is willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of men to take that mountain, Armenia wins the war.
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    Post  medo Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:23 pm

    GRAPHIC. 18+



    Armenian soldiers bury Azerbaijani soldiers in a mass grave

    Artzach army quickly bury Azerbaijani soldiers to prevent spreading of deceases. Azerbaijani army doesn't care for their dead soldiers and leave them behind and don't take them to hide the numbers of dead soldiers. Artzach army now have to bury they in mass graves, so no one count those dead Azerbaijani soldiers. Azerbaijani losses are realy high and some claim even to 15 thousand killed soldiers. What is wrong here is the fact, that those Azerbaijani bodies are in hands of Artzach army. If Azerbaijani army is advancing as Turko-Azeri propagandy lie, than all those body should be on territory controled by Azerbaijani army, who should bury them to prevent spreading illneses in Azerbaijani army. Considering, that it is Artzach army, who take care of them means, that this territora is under control of Artzach army and this is a prove, that Azerbaijani army is retreating under heavy losses.

    Artzach army with dead Azerbaijani soldiers also got Azerbaijani armament, so they replace destroyed armament with Azerbaijani armament.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:39 pm

    I don't think Russia will sit idly by, and allow a humanitarian disaster in NK.  Putin indicated the " tragic loss" of life. Humanitarian intervention? Inaction  will be too politically costly for Russia. And I don't think the diplomats can stop the momentum of Azeri / Turk advance. Despite all these killings. And I don't think Iran can tolerate  an  Azer occupied by Turkey / Usrael , hell bent on Azeri separatism in Iran . So all this may be heading to larger war.  I like this scenario, as most likely.


    https://youtu.be/U-nWWfiHbb8

    RIP to all those Azeri / Arm who died.
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    Post  medo Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:30 pm

    https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1319689403711819779

    Artzach army capture defense line of Azerbaijani army, there are many dead Azeri soldiers in trench.

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    Another Azeri UAV shot down.


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