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    Post  nero Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:02 pm

    Isos wrote:Anyway back on the topic :

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    Spotted by @barabanch: vice speaker of the Ulianovsk Oblast legislature claims the 31st Air Assault Brigade of the Russian Airborne Troops "is heading to Nagorno-Karabakh."

    IMPORTANT: no official confirmation of this so far, just one regional legislator's Instagram Story

    There are rumors that Russian peacekeepers are going to be deployed in NK (in the areas still in Armenian control, that is). These are likely the folks that will uphold that role.

    This is the alleged text:

    Говорят, что это текст заявления.

    Заявление
    Президента Азербайджанской Республики,
    Премьер-министра Республики Армения
    и Президента Российской Федерации


    Мы, Президент Азербайджанской Республики И.Г.Алиев,
    Премьер-министр Республики Армения Н.В.Пашинян и Президент Российской Федерации В.В.Путин, заявили о следующем:
    1. Объявляется о полном прекращении огня и всех военных действий в зоне нагорно-карабахского конфликта с 00 часов 00 минут по московскому времени 10 ноября 2020 года. Азербайджанская Республика
    и Республика Армения, далее именуемые Сторонами, останавливаются на занимаемых ими позициях.
    2. Агдамский район и территории, удерживаемые Армянской Стороной в Газахском районе Азербайджанской Республики, возвращаются Азербайджанской Стороне до 20 ноября 2020 года.
    3. Вдоль линии соприкосновения в Нагорном Карабахе и вдоль Лачинского коридора развертывается миротворческий контингент Российской Федерации в количестве 1960 военнослужащих со стрелковым оружием, 90 бронетранспортеров, 380 единиц автомобильной и специальной техники.
    4. Миротворческий контингент Российской Федерации развертывается параллельно с выводом армянских вооруженных сил. Срок пребывания миротворческого контингента Российской Федерации – 5 лет с автоматическим продлением на очередные 5-летние периоды, если ни одна из Сторон не заявит за 6 месяцев до истечения срока о намерении прекратить применение данного положения.
    5. В целях повышения эффективности контроля за выполнением Сторонами конфликта договоренностей развертывается миротворческий центр по контролю за прекращением огня.
    6. Республика Армения до 15 ноября 2020 года возвращает Азербайджанской Республике Кельбаджарский район, а до 1 декабря 2020 года – Лачинский район, оставляя при этом за собой Лачинский коридор (шириной 5 км), который будет обеспечивать связь Нагорного Карабаха с Арменией и при этом не будет затрагивать г.Шушу.
    По согласованию Сторон в ближайшие три года будет определен план строительства нового маршрута движения по Лачинскому коридору, обеспечивающий связь между Степанакертом и Арменией, с последующей передислокацией российского миротворческого контингента для охраны этого маршрута.
    Азербайджанская Республика гарантирует безопасность движения
    по Лачинскому коридору граждан, транспортных средств и грузов в обоих направлениях.
    7. Внутренне перемещенные лица и беженцы возвращаются на территорию Нагорного Карабаха и прилегающие районы под контролем Управления Верховного Комиссара ООН по делам беженцев.
    8. Производится обмен военнопленными и другими удерживаемыми лицами и телами погибших.
    9. Разблокируются все экономические и транспортные связи в регионе. Республика Армения обеспечивает транспортное сообщение между западными районами Азербайджанской Республики и Нахичеванской Автономной Республикой с целью организации беспрепятственного движения граждан, транспортных средств и грузов в обоих направлениях. Контроль за транспортным сообщением осуществляют органы Пограничной службы ФСБ России.
    По согласованию Сторон будет обеспечено строительство новых транспортных коммуникаций, связывающих Нахичеванскую Автономную Республику с западными районами Азербайджана.

    «       » ноября 2020 года

                  Президент
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     Премьер-министр
    Республики Армения
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    Российской Федерации

    If true the the ultimate cucking has took place. NK will practically be surrounded by Azerbaijan. They will have to give back additional territory that is under control of NK currently.

    I feel like there will be a military coup in Armenia/NK soon.

    Explosion in Baku reported a few minutes ago.


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    Post  lyle6 Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:07 pm

    Isos wrote:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2 - Page 21 Emadrp10
    All of those lives lost, for nothing.


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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:08 pm

    Isos wrote:... Azeri bought the right equipment. Armenians didn't. If they had also bought hundreds of suicide drones and some chinese attack drones and some 100 orlan 10 for recco they would be in a better situation.

    And they were doing it very publicly for a very long time

    Only people who were surprised by Azeri ops were Armenians

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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:10 pm

    There are also rumours Turkey will bring its soldiers in the part taken as peacekeepers for azeri side.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:11 pm

    I doubt any peace will last more than an hour or two. Peacekeepers are not enough... Russians will die again because Putin trust Erdogan.


    ELINT News
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    #UPDATE: Explosion reported in Azerbaijani capital of Baku minutes ago
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:22 pm

    Isos wrote:There are also rumours Turkey will bring its soldiers in the part taken as peacekeepers for azeri side.
    Someone might have posted earlier, but apparently Russia's sending its 31st Air Assault Brigade to act as peacekeepers.
    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1325922863149445123

    1. Armenia implements UN resolutions, different districts hand over to Azerbaijani authorities before 15th November, 20th November, 1 December,
    2. Current frontlines halt as of Moscow midnight
    3. Russian Federation peacekeepers to protect 5kms Lachin corridor for 5 years

    STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA, THE PRIME MINISTER OF ARMENIA AND THE PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN

    We, the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Heydari Aliyev, the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol V. Pashinyan and Russian President Vladimir V. We announce the following to Putin

    1. Announces a complete ceasefire in all types of hostilities in the Karabakh conflict zone, starting from October 10, 00.00, according to Moscow time. The Republic of Azerbaijan and the Republic of Armenia, later parties, remain in their occupied positions.

    2. The Aghdam region and the territories controlled by the Armenian side in the Kazakh region will be returned to Azerbaijan by November 20.

    3. Along with the Line of Contact in Nagorno Karabakh and in the Lachinch Corridor, Russian peacekeeping forces of 1960 troops, firearms, 90 armored vehicles and 380 vehicles and special equipment are established.

    4. The Russian peacekeeping force is deployed in parallel with the withdrawal of the Armenian forces. The peacekeepers remain for five years, with the possibility of automatic extension for the next five years, unless the parties announce six months in advance. 5/10

    5. A ceasefire center shall be established for the implementation of agreements between the parties for efficiency and control.

    6. Armenia returns Kelbajar to Azerbaijan by November 15, and the Lachin region by December 1, leaving a 5 km wide corridor that will provide a connection to Armenia but will not touch Shushi.

    According to the parties, a new road through Lachin will be built in the next three years, which will connect Stepanakert with Armenia, for the further deployment of peacekeepers to control that road.

    7. Internally Displaced Persons and Refugees Return to Nagorno-Karabakh and Adjacent Areas Under the Control of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees

    8. Prisoners of war are exchanged and other detainees are exchanged

    9. All economic and transport connections in the region are unblocked. Armenia provides transport links between the western regions of Azerbaijan and the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic. This transport connection is supervised by the RF FSB border service.

    According to the parties, a transport route will be built to connect Nakhichevan and the western regions of Azerbaijan.

    https://twitter.com/warragex/status/1325924386701012998


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    Post  franco Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:28 pm

    "The incident is not directed against Russia": Azerbaijan admitted that it shot down a Russian helicopter

    Official Baku acknowledged that the Russian Mi-24 helicopter was shot down by the Azerbaijani side. This is stated in the statement of the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry.

    The foreign ministry of the republic said that the helicopter was shot down by accident, Azerbaijan expresses its condolences, apologizes to the Russian side and is ready to pay compensation. At the same time, it is emphasized that this incident is in no way directed against Russia.

    The Azerbaijani side apologizes to the Russian side in connection with this tragic incident, which is accidental and was not directed against the Russian side.

    - the statement says.

    The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry explained that the Russian helicopter flew in close proximity to the Azerbaijani-Armenian border during active hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    The helicopter flight took place in the dark, at low altitude and outside the radar detection zone of air defense equipment. (...) Russian helicopters have not previously been seen in the area where the incident occurred

    - the statement says.

    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the loss of the Mi-24 helicopter, which accompanied the convoy of the 102nd Russian military base through the territory of Armenia in the airspace near the Armenian settlement of Yeraskh near the border of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic. The helicopter was shot down by MANPADS in the airspace of Armenia outside the combat zone.

    As a result of the missile hit, the helicopter lost control and fell in a mountainous area on the territory of Armenia. Two crew members died, one was evacuated with moderate injuries to the home airfield

    - said the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov.

    Baku does not specify what caused the Azerbaijani mistake. According to the latest information, "could have been mistaken for an Armenian Air Force helicopter."

    Now it is worth waiting for the comments of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Foreign Ministry on what happened - I mean Moscow's reaction to the recognition by the Azerbaijani side.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:30 pm

    They used the Iskanders at the last moment just to piss off azeris. Not a single tactical meaning. dunno More stupid would be to forget to breath. Why didn't they just gave NK without fighting ?


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    First images coming from the Capital city of Azerbaijan, Xirdilan, Baku . Looks like Armenian forces targeted the city with ballistic missiles
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:31 pm

    lyle6 wrote:
    Isos wrote:There are also rumours Turkey will bring its soldiers in the part taken as peacekeepers for azeri side.
    Someone might have posted earlier, but apparently Russia's sending its 31st Air Assault Brigade to act as peacekeepers.
    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1325922863149445123

    1. Armenia implements UN resolutions, different districts hand over to Azerbaijani authorities before 15th November, 20th November, 1 December,
    2. Current frontlines halt as of Moscow midnight
    3. Russian Federation peacekeepers to protect 5kms Lachin corridor for 5 years

    Now the Armenians has eaten their own dinner plates piled high full of shit. This will teach those barking poodles not to bite the hand that feeds them, and this has surely helped discredit the Pro-EU anti-Rus crowd. Hopefully Pussynian loses the next election, and his whole clique and himself gets thrown behind bars for their pro-West faggotry! pwnd clown
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:33 pm

    Not sure of the reliability of that account tho.


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    Reports of rebellions in the NKR forces. Units are not accepting the ceasefire and are vowing to continue to fight to get back Shusha and all other territories under Azerbaijan control. Also stating that the Prime Minister of Armenia, Nikol Pashinyan is a traitor

    CaucasusWarReport
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    “Nikol Pashinyan has just automatically lost his legitimacy. He is no longer the legitimate Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia.”

    -Armenian government sources
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:39 pm

    Do not know if it is true, but even if so... too little, too late.

    Armenians were happy to start removing ties with Russia to embrace the west.

    I still think that the whole mess isn't finished yet however
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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:41 pm

    Man 2020 just keeps going.
    Sorry Armenians but it was clear your government was fucking you from the start.

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    Post  lyle6 Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:42 pm

    Missed this, but the Russians have sent the strategic bombers on a tour of the Caucasus and the nearby Caspian. At least 15 bombers. Hefty argument for a cessation of hostilities.

    https://twitter.com/Some_Sun/status/1325702355506126849


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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:43 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Do not know if it is true, but even if so... too little, too late.

    Armenians were happy to start removing ties with Russia to embrace the west.

    I still think that the whole mess isn't finished yet  however

    Not finished at all. They just targeted Baku with Iskanders. It was probably done without PM's knowing about because soldiers wants the fight to keep going and now they can even seak for russian help officially.

    If I was Pan.. (PM) I would run away in the US as quickly as possible. Its generals wants his head IMO.
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    Post  nero Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:45 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Missed this, but the Russians have sent the strategic bombers on a tour of the Caucasus and the nearby Black Sea. At least 15 bombers. Hefty argument for a cessation of hostilities.

    https://twitter.com/Some_Sun/status/1325702355506126849

    Sending the VDV as a peacekeeping force is a bit... weird.

    I guess they forced the Azeri's and Armenian's to take the ceasefire.

    Hilariously Russia is now even more hated by Armenians than before. Some NKR units have effectively committed treason by refusing to back down from the fighting.

    What a fucked region.

    The Armenian government has entered war with the Armenian population, apparently:



    The live feed is fucking crazy. They are in a government building fucking shit up. Some one give them some copium.


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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:45 pm

    Isos wrote:Not sure of the reliability of that account tho.


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    Reports of rebellions in the NKR forces. Units are not accepting the ceasefire and are vowing to continue to fight to get back Shusha and all other territories under Azerbaijan control. Also stating that the Prime Minister of Armenia, Nikol Pashinyan is a traitor

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    “Nikol Pashinyan has just automatically lost his legitimacy. He is no longer the legitimate Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia.”

    -Armenian government sources

    What’s amazing is that this basically confirms the rumors from the very start of this conflict that pasha was only put in place so he could surrender NK and then go live abroad somewhere in exile.


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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:46 pm

    Isos wrote:They used the Iskanders at the last moment just to piss off azeris. Not a single tactical meaning.  dunno More stupid would be to forget to breath. Why didn't they just gave NK without fighting ? ...

    With this they will officially go down as saltiest dickless losers in modern history



    Isos wrote:....CaucasusWarReport
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    First images coming from the Capital city of Azerbaijan, Xirdilan, Baku . Looks like Armenian forces targeted the city with ballistic missiles

    So this late in the game they targeted the city and not oil facilities?

    Peak c*nt mode activated...




    Anyway there are indications of Russian strategic bombers cruising in Caspian region ready to pulverise whichever side tries to refuse the peace deal

    Looks like Brother Bear decided that party is officially over


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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:46 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Do not know if it is true, but even if so... too little, too late.

    Armenians were happy to start removing ties with Russia to embrace the west.

    I still think that the whole mess isn't finished yet  however

    Where Russians leave, Americans come. I see a coup in Armenia to remove Pushinyan and install an American friendly puppet. I see Armenians kicking the Russian base out and invite Biden / Harris in. A US military base in the Caucasus so close to Mozdok is a god send to the Americans and a serious pain in the ass for the Russians.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:49 pm

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    According to local sources,#Russia Air Force 3624th AvB in #Erebuni, #Yerevan has started preparing its personnel including MiG-29, Mi-8MT and Mi-24P pilots for possible war with #Azerbaijan. This downed Mi-24P was involved in one of these missions
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:51 pm

    Armenia is definitely joining NATO. There were multiple cases Azerbaijan shelled Armenia proper and Russia did nothing, turning a blind eye and ignoring treaty obligations. Just as Putin handed northern Syria to Erdogan, Putin handed Karabakh to Erdogan. Shame.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:53 pm

    Keep in mind the agreement was made before the attack on the helicopter and the attack on Baku.

    In the next hour it may totally chabge and Russia could step in.

    Russian military was already pissed off by Putin not responding to turkish/israeli attacks on russian soldiers. I doubt he could just let it go and not respond to the death of those 2 soldiers. Untill now only Lavrov have spoken. The MoD didn't.

    Next hours will be crutial for Baku...
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    Post  nero Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:55 pm

    Isos wrote:Keep in mind the agreement was made before the attack on the helicopter and the attack on Baku.

    In the next hour it may totally chabge and Russia could step in.

    Russian military was already pissed off by Putin not responding to turkish/israeli attacks on russian soldiers. I doubt he could just let it go and not respond to the death of those 2 soldiers. Untill now only Lavrov have spoken. The MoD didn't.

    Next hours will be crutial for Baku...

    Putin officially announced the cease-fire moments ago.

    Ru MoD has already commented on the issue.
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    Isos wrote:Babak Taghvaee - Μπάπακ Τακβαίε - بابک تقوایی (B)
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    According to local sources,#Russia Air Force 3624th AvB in #Erebuni, #Yerevan has started preparing its personnel including MiG-29, Mi-8MT and Mi-24P pilots for possible war with #Azerbaijan. This downed Mi-24P was involved in one of these missions

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    Its fall has started...


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    Walking to Republic Square in Yerevan. Huge convoys of cars heading there. Reports of protestors breaking into government buildings

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