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2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°51
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Is it true that the new PM brought in thanks to protests and us foreign meddling had canceled victory day in Armenia? Hilarious. Really goes to show what a pos he is and what armenians wanted.
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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- Post n°52
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Where did you get that from?miketheterrible wrote:Is it true that the new PM brought in thanks to protests and us foreign meddling had canceled victory day in Armenia? Hilarious. Really goes to show what a pos he is and what armenians wanted.
There has not been a May 9 VIctory day parade in Armenia for ages.
Our Victory parade happens in September every 5 years.
By the way, don't worry about Armenia getting out of Russian orbit. It will not happen even if we have Saakashvilli as president.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°53
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
I read it on fort Russ. Just as you said this, apparently they just tweeted it was fake news.
I'm starting to think some of these pro Russian sites are not exactly what we think they are.
I'm starting to think some of these pro Russian sites are not exactly what we think they are.
The-thing-next-door- Posts : 1390
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- Post n°54
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Wait what is going on? Is Armenia safe? Was it a flase alarm?
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°55
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
@the Armenian
http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/228782-gotova-li-rossiya-k-vyhodu-armenii-iz-eaes-i-odkb.html
Any of this true? Armenia looking to leave CSTO?
http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/228782-gotova-li-rossiya-k-vyhodu-armenii-iz-eaes-i-odkb.html
Any of this true? Armenia looking to leave CSTO?
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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- Post n°56
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
miketheterrible wrote:@the Armenian
http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/228782-gotova-li-rossiya-k-vyhodu-armenii-iz-eaes-i-odkb.html
Any of this true? Armenia looking to leave CSTO?
Take all these reports with a big chunk of salt.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°57
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
TheArmenian wrote:miketheterrible wrote:@the Armenian
http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/228782-gotova-li-rossiya-k-vyhodu-armenii-iz-eaes-i-odkb.html
Any of this true? Armenia looking to leave CSTO?
Take all these reports with a big chunk of salt.
Thats what I was thinking. I figure a lot of it is fake news being spread.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°58
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/5313845?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share&utm_content=20502123
Armenia's coup PM is to go visit NATO Summit and talks about how important NATO is in the security of the republic. And considers them an ally.
Hmmmm
Armenian, what do you make of this? Sure sounds like he is attempting to possibly join NATO and fuck Russia over.
I hope you have your diapers on cause Azerbaijan will see this as opportunity.
"The participation of the Prime Minister of Armenia the NATO summit is very important for our country. Although Armenia is a member of the collective security Treaty [of the CSTO], official Yerevan considers NATO as a partner organization and a reliable ally in ensuring security of the Republic", - said a source in the Armenian government.
Armenia's coup PM is to go visit NATO Summit and talks about how important NATO is in the security of the republic. And considers them an ally.
Hmmmm
Armenian, what do you make of this? Sure sounds like he is attempting to possibly join NATO and fuck Russia over.
I hope you have your diapers on cause Azerbaijan will see this as opportunity.
"The participation of the Prime Minister of Armenia the NATO summit is very important for our country. Although Armenia is a member of the collective security Treaty [of the CSTO], official Yerevan considers NATO as a partner organization and a reliable ally in ensuring security of the Republic", - said a source in the Armenian government.
Svyatoslavich- Posts : 399
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- Post n°59
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Typícal diplomatical babble about "partnership", it doesn't mean anything and there isn't the slightest hint that they plan to leave the CSTO and join NATO.miketheterrible wrote:"The participation of the Prime Minister of Armenia the NATO summit is very important for our country. Although Armenia is a member of the collective security Treaty [of the CSTO], official Yerevan considers NATO as a partner organization and a reliable ally in ensuring security of the Republic", - said a source in the Armenian government.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°60
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Look what happened to Ukraine and pretty much all other soviet republics?
I think this is something.
I think this is something.
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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- Post n°61
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Mike,
Stop taking everything at face value. In politics, sometimes black is white and white is black.
And I believe you understand what "blowing smoke up one's ass" means.
The previous administration of Armenia was also flirting with NATO and EU. This new leadership is doing the same. I don't agree with those kinds of games, but politics is politics.
Stop taking everything at face value. In politics, sometimes black is white and white is black.
And I believe you understand what "blowing smoke up one's ass" means.
The previous administration of Armenia was also flirting with NATO and EU. This new leadership is doing the same. I don't agree with those kinds of games, but politics is politics.
Walther von Oldenburg- Posts : 1725
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- Post n°62
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Didn't the Armenian PM (new one) also talk about how important it is to have good relationship with RUssia some time ago?
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°63
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Didn't the Armenian PM (new one) also talk about how important it is to have good relationship with RUssia some time ago?
As Armenian said, all smoke up the ass.
Issue is, the flirting with NATO will get Armenia into deep trouble in the future. It is better to keep them at arms distance. Talk to them, but dont flirt with them. Make it clear your intentions.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°64
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/06/will-us-backed-pashinyan-take-armenia-out-of-the-csto-eaec/
Will US Backed Pashinyan Take Armenia Out Of The CSTO & EAEC?
Will US Backed Pashinyan Take Armenia Out Of The CSTO & EAEC?
George1- Posts : 18515
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- Post n°65
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
The actions of the new Armenian authorities irritate Moscow
The newspaper Kommersant in the material of Alexandra Djordjevic, Kirill Krivosheev, Ivan Safronov, Vladimir Solovyov and Elena Chernenko "Armenia breaks away from the collective." Moscow is annoyed by the actions of the new authorities in Yerevan "reports that the persecution of its former leaders by the current authorities of Armenia has caused discord in Moscow's relations with Yerevan and may even more sever the parties. According to Kommersant sources in the state structures of the Russian Federation, special irritation was caused by the bringing to the court of the Secretary General of the Organization of the Collective Security Treaty (CSTO) Yuri Khachaturov. In the Kremlin, it was considered a serious blow to the image of the military bloc, that the CSTO can be headed by a representative of another country. Moreover, the previously agreed arms deliveries to Armenia for $ 100 million turned out to be in question.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3292121.html
opinions? Kommersant is reliable source?
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°66
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
There is truth to it George:
http://tass.com/politics/1015845
Russia is very unhappy with Armenia, and to be honest, rightly so.
Armenia obtains way too much, that costs Russia a lot of money, from Russia. And what do they get in return? Slap in the face. There are almost equal amount of Armenian's in Russia as there is in Armenia, and a large part of Armenia's economy is money from Russia to Armenia.
Already there are many people demanding Russia cut ties to Armenia and just work with Azerbaijan. Which I also support. Armenia has no tactical advantage, their people are obviously easily paid/traitors and Azerbaijan is along the Caspain sea and has a much larger economic prosperity and opportunity for Russia. Religion and so called brotherly love means nothing to Armenians, and in the end only Russias real allies are its army and navy. So they should see it that way, cut Armenia out, kick out Armenian citizens out of Russia to leave those jobs for others, and let Armenia stool in their NATO wonderland.
http://tass.com/politics/1015845
Russia is very unhappy with Armenia, and to be honest, rightly so.
Armenia obtains way too much, that costs Russia a lot of money, from Russia. And what do they get in return? Slap in the face. There are almost equal amount of Armenian's in Russia as there is in Armenia, and a large part of Armenia's economy is money from Russia to Armenia.
Already there are many people demanding Russia cut ties to Armenia and just work with Azerbaijan. Which I also support. Armenia has no tactical advantage, their people are obviously easily paid/traitors and Azerbaijan is along the Caspain sea and has a much larger economic prosperity and opportunity for Russia. Religion and so called brotherly love means nothing to Armenians, and in the end only Russias real allies are its army and navy. So they should see it that way, cut Armenia out, kick out Armenian citizens out of Russia to leave those jobs for others, and let Armenia stool in their NATO wonderland.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/08/03/pro-american-armenia-carried-out-a-regime-change-against-the-csto/
Yeah, I think Armenia is done deal. Better ditch it and let it collapse instead.
Yeah, I think Armenia is done deal. Better ditch it and let it collapse instead.
par far- Posts : 3496
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- Post n°68
Re: 2018 Armenian "Velvet" Revolution
miketheterrible wrote:https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/08/03/pro-american-armenia-carried-out-a-regime-change-against-the-csto/
Yeah, I think Armenia is done deal. Better ditch it and let it collapse instead.
The same thing can Happen in Belarus(Russia cannot let this happen.)
In fact, Mr Mitchell openly proclaimed that the US will contest its “rivals” using other states as a battleground. This will allow to keep the conflict away from the homeland interests of the Washington establishment. The US diplomat also pointed out states where this conflict will be ongoing. These are “Ukraine, Georgia, and even Belarus”.
“Today it is the national sovereignty and territorial integrity of frontier states like Ukraine, Georgia, and even Belarus, that offer the surest bulwark against Russian neo-imperialism,” he said.
The logic of this comment raises eyebrows. He openly suggest to contest Russia intervening into the internal situation in Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus. Nonetheless, he does not see any violation of “sovereignty and territorial integrity” in this strategy employed towards these newly created states
https://southfront.org/brief-look-at-us-strategy-in-eastern-and-central-europe-to-deter-russia-and-china/
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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2018 Armenian Velvet Revolution
par far wrote:miketheterrible wrote:https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/08/03/pro-american-armenia-carried-out-a-regime-change-against-the-csto/
Yeah, I think Armenia is done deal. Better ditch it and let it collapse instead.
The same thing can Happen in Belarus(Russia cannot let this happen.)
In fact, Mr Mitchell openly proclaimed that the US will contest its “rivals” using other states as a battleground. This will allow to keep the conflict away from the homeland interests of the Washington establishment. The US diplomat also pointed out states where this conflict will be ongoing. These are “Ukraine, Georgia, and even Belarus”.
“Today it is the national sovereignty and territorial integrity of frontier states like Ukraine, Georgia, and even Belarus, that offer the surest bulwark against Russian neo-imperialism,” he said.
The logic of this comment raises eyebrows. He openly suggest to contest Russia intervening into the internal situation in Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus. Nonetheless, he does not see any violation of “sovereignty and territorial integrity” in this strategy employed towards these newly created states
https://southfront.org/brief-look-at-us-strategy-in-eastern-and-central-europe-to-deter-russia-and-china/
The benefit of this whole ordeal is that they make no secret of their plans. In this regard, it can royally screw them in the end since its like the bond villain telling bond what their grand master plan is before even executing it. Then it gives bond the ability to counter act cause he already knows what the plan is thus able to come up with something rather quick to stop the bad guy.
In this regard, Russia isn't exactly surprised by such comments and were already fully aware of US intentions in these countries. While they know they cannot contest Russia directly, the best US can do is try to subdue Russia by surrounding it. But that wont work cause in the end, those other nations rely on Russia. Hell, even Ukraine still relies on Russia. If Russia really wanted to fight back, they can strangle the economies of these other nations and cause revolts like not seen since 1918. BUT, in that regard, Russia also can potentially lose out too. So they are doing the "watch from afar and pick here and there". They wont let Donbass fall. They will continue to allow Abkhazia, S.Ossetia, Donbass and Lughansk to be a headache for the other nations. They will also continue to use its consumption power mixed with its energy to pick at the european states. Already, the European Union and its alliance with US is fractured.
The Atlantic council is a mouth piece for American Imperialism. Nothing more. But when they get their cronies to come up to the podium to speak, it gives the rest of us the good idea what their intentions are. And it gives their so called enemies information of what they plan to do ahead of time. A joke really. It is funny but Russia didn't interfere in Ukraine. I think they should have. But many suspect Russia didn't cause they couldn't. That is a lie cause Russia was able to do a heck of a lot more, with significantly less, in 2008. But I think it is because it is better to know your enemy than not.