Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov #2

So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M

Arrow wrote:So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M

Spoiler: Chinese aren't building those ships for Russia

Again, check the map

Arrow wrote:So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M

IS THERE NO END TO THE TROLLING WE MUST ENDURE FROM THIS PRICK?  

Seriously, we have to listen to lectures about tolerating the opinions of others or being "respectful", but this guy is just taking the piss...  

I do not troll, I only compares the development of the navy of Russia and China. Where China will have a much more powerful navy. Although Russian frigates will be much better armed. China will not have such bullets for a long time as Oniks and Cirkon. Russia also needs a strong navy if it wants to be a suuperpower.

Arrow wrote:I do not troll, I only compares the development of the navy of Russia and China. Where China will have a much more powerful navy. Although Russian frigates will be much better armed. China will not have such bullets for a long time as Oniks and Cirkon. Russia also needs a strong navy if it wants to be a suuperpower.

Unless China plans to sail around the world and invade St. Petersburg I don't see how comparing Chinese and Russian navies matters for anything.

China can build 20 CVNs and 250 destroyers and it still wouldn't count for shit when it comes to Russia (unless they install wheels on them and drive them onto dry land)

How about comparing Chinese Navy with Japanese, South Korean or USN? You know, stuff it's built for.

Huh, Gorshkov going ham


https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/05/2019/5ce825099a7947ac33e0fade?from=from_main

The Russian frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" conducted exercises in the Pacific Ocean to search for submarines, reports TASS with reference to the press service of the Northern Fleet.

"The exercises were held in the central part of the Pacific Ocean, south-east of the Hawaiian Islands," the press service said.

The search for the submarine "Admiral Gorshkov" was engaged with the help of onboard sonar weapons, the Ka-27 helicopter also took part in the exercises. During the flight, the helicopter used a descending hydroacoustic station.

Edit: I think the 'South East' is probably actually North West, Google translate seems to have problems with compass directions like that.
Edit2: though Yandex also says South East

They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.

I should think Gorshkov has no need to go half way round the world to be in a place where a US sub is hanging out, probably one of the most certain places in the world for one to be is not far outside Murmansk...

Isos wrote:They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.

What would US subs be doing in Central Pacific?

They have dozen higher priority areas in that ocean alone.

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120240/

Zvezda makes RO55 gearboxes for the new admiralty series of project 22350 ships.

hoom wrote:I should think Gorshkov has no need to go half way round the world to be in a place where a US sub is hanging out, probably one of the most certain places in the world for one to be is not far outside Murmansk...

Not the same climat and underwater conditions.

owais.usmani wrote:https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120240/

Zvezda makes RO55 gearboxes for the new admiralty series of project 22350 ships.

Does this mean they can finally start building more than two at a time?

They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.

These are multirole ships with a range of capabilities and systems... any of which might have been found wanting, so an upgrade or fix or patch might be needed even if it found US subs with no problems...

Does this mean they can finally start building more than two at a time?

How many bottlenecks were there... the propulsion and the SAMs... and it sounds like the SAMs and propulsion are now sorted... so they need to decide how many they want to build and order them...

Sadly, so far the pattern seems to be when they get something they decide they want an upgraded M model that is bigger... and now that propulsion is sorted if they want a 7,000 ton upgraded version you are starting to look at small nuke propulsion instead... which is OK too of course.

OOh, Military Acceptance is doing a 22350 episode

Where is Gorshkov now? Last info was that she is going near Hawaii.

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Breaking news The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,#Ecuador

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Breaking news The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,#Ecuador

Next onto the Panama Canal then Venezuela, then Cuba and finally off home?

If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

JohninMK wrote:

If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.

marat wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation  would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.

I know, it just looks neater on a map.

JohninMK wrote:

marat wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation  would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.

I know, it just looks neater on a map.

I thought that there are some secret naval convention about circumnavigation not known to me

Video from Ecuador.

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Breaking news The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,#Ecuador

Next onto the Panama Canal then Venezuela, then Cuba and finally off home?

If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

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The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov frigate are planning to pass the Panama Canal in the nearest future for deployment in the Caribbean

Gorshkov in Machala, Ecuador

In the Panama Canal yesterday