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The Situation in the Ukraine. #30

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flamming_python Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:57 pm

Now an American has been detained in Odessa during the independence day parade for wearing a t-shirt with the Russian flag

https://twitter.com/SergUA63/status/1429723955217244163

https://twitter.com/russiaspeaks/status/1429752229385342983

What's up with the pro-Russian Anglo insurgency in Odessa? Not that I don't welcome it Cool

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JohninMK Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:14 pm

MOSCOW, August 23. /TASS/. The "quiet diplomacy" which senior Western officials often refer to when seeking agreements without excessive publicity will not work in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with Hungary’s newspaper Magyar Nemzet published on Monday.

According to the minister, "the continuous degradation of observing basic human rights in Ukraine cannot but raise concerns." He recalled that Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky signed the law entitled "On indigenous peoples of Ukraine."

"Along with the laws on the state language and education adopted earlier, it significantly infringes upon interests of Russians, Hungarians and other nations that historically populate the lands of modern Ukraine," the minister stressed. "It is essentially about artificial segregation of people into categories with differing rights, which very much resembles theories and practices of Nazi Germany."

The top Russian diplomat pointed out that Moscow had "repeatedly drew attention of relevant international institutions to these incidents," particularly the UN, OSCE, Council of Europe and UNESCO. "It is vital that the Kiev authorities hear public criticism from European politicians. The so-called quiet diplomacy which our Western colleagues like to refer to will clearly not work in Ukraine," he added.

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flamming_python Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:34 pm

More on that guy in Odessa

Have to agree with the tweet, the music goes ideally with the scene thumbsup

https://twitter.com/Vityzeva/status/1429871405953429505

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Karl Haushofer Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:51 pm

Did he say he was born in Russia but has lived the most of his live in the US?

I feel for the guy but what a dumb move. Ukraine is a dictatorship that hates Russia. What was he exactly trying to accomplish? Getting arrested? Thrown to jail? Well, he got that. But will people care enough to set him free again? Don't think so. Since he is pro-Russian people will have no trouble seeing him thrown to jail.

If this guy really wanted to support Russia he wouldn't have gone to visit Ukraine but instead moved to Russia, marry a Russian girl there and have at three babies with her. Now, at worst, he wasted his life for nothing.

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flamming_python Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:58 pm

Karl Haushofer wrote:Did he say he was born in Russia but has lived the most of his live in the US?

I feel for the guy but what a dumb move. Ukraine is a dictatorship that hates Russia. What was he exactly trying to accomplish? Getting arrested? Thrown to jail? Well, he got that. But will people care enough to set him free again? Don't think so. Since he is pro-Russian people will have no trouble seeing him thrown to jail.

If this guy really wanted to support Russia he wouldn't have gone to visit Ukraine but instead moved to Russia, marry a Russian girl there and have at three babies with her. Now, at worst, he wasted his life for nothing.

They can't just imprison a foreign citizen, especially from a Western nation, for wearing a Russian t-shirt. So I'm sure he'll be fine.

If he a Ukrainian citizen of course he would have been imprisoned for seperatism, which carries up to a 5-year term - thousands have been prosecuted under that already even for just opposing recognition of the coup-govt or engaging in protests against the war, or whatever.

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GarryB Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:38 pm

Na he just knows a fake country when he sees one.

Trolling on Twitter is one thing, but to do it in their country to their faces takes real balls... he is essentially in banjo country showing them what a nice firm ass he has... I suspect more of a mistake than a political challenge or political stance.

What's up with the pro-Russian Anglo insurgency in Odessa? Not that I don't welcome it

It is why the whole west has put its weight behind the Ukraine because the Ukraine supports the same freedoms and rights as the west does... unlike Russia who would not care if he wore a Ukrainian flag on his shirt....

More on that guy in Odessa

Have to agree with the tweet, the music goes ideally with the scene

Wow... I am surprised he didn't get shot.

He thinks that America will save him... but play this video and hear him say Russia is a great country and they will leave him to hang out to dry.

When you are in someone elses country don't tell the local police what they can or cannot do... they never like that... and suggesting you can do as you please because you are an American is another level of stupid...

They can't just imprison a foreign citizen, especially from a Western nation, for wearing a Russian t-shirt. So I'm sure he'll be fine

Would not be hard to make shit up.... some case of graffiti and the guy running away matched this guys description and then him trying to run away etc etc... it could go on for quite some time...

I mean in the US you could get shot for what this guy is doing if you were black.

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flamming_python Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:58 pm

Ukronazis on the prowl, I think from yesterdays festivities

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"Death to Russia"

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flamming_python Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:07 pm

Former President of the Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, got splashed with brilliant green today at the 30th anniversary of Ukrainian independence celebrations

https://twitter.com/SergUA63/status/1430204750704922632

Don't know the agenda of the person who did it was, he could be a disgruntled Ukronazi for all I know.
But that takes some balls..

The revolution eats its own children thumbsup

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Hole Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:53 am

Why paint? Use acid!

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Cowboy's daughter Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:29 pm

flamming_python wrote:Former President of the Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, got splashed with brilliant green today at the 30th anniversary of Ukrainian independence celebrations

https://twitter.com/SergUA63/status/1430204750704922632

Don't know the agenda of the person who did it was, he could be a disgruntled Ukronazi for all I know.
But that takes some balls..

The revolution eats its own children

Wow.

Petro Poroshenko, who said "our children will go to school; their children will "go to school"? "live"? in holes in the ground. Well deserved for it to happen to him. .

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Cowboy's daughter Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:31 pm

flamming_python wrote:Ukronazis on the prowl, I think from yesterdays festivities

"Death to Russia"

Not because I like the sign, I don't, but thanks for posting!

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JohninMK Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:47 pm

Tit for tat and what a tat Laughing

Tit

Dean O'Brien - BA (Hons)
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High voltage signBreakingHigh voltage signReports coming in now that the village of Mineralnoye in the Donetsk People's Republic has been under heavy attack since 06.10 this morning. Ukrainian forces have been attacking from Avdiivka with over thirty 120mm mortars being fired so far. #Donbass

Tat

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BRKNG: Heavy #Russia artillery strikes hit #Ukraine-held city of #Avdiyivka in #Donbas Aug 28 morning, rendering 1 UA soldier non-critically wounded & 3 trucks destroyed: reliable UA journos & bloggers posting videos, photos.
Reportedly, the heaviest RU strike in area since 2017.

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flamming_python Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:53 pm

Hope they really are Russian forces, and that they've stopped fking around, started to put their foot down on further destabilization of the conflict zone

And now's a great time for it, with the imminent construction of Nord Stream 2, and after Kiev chickened out from the escalation and offensive they themselves initiated in the spring. They backed down as the stakes started to increase, and it's only going to be downhill for them from here. Shouldn't have played stupid games.

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franco Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:16 pm

flamming_python wrote:Hope they really are Russian forces, and that they've stopped fking around, started to put their foot down on further destabilization of the conflict zone

Alias Panchenko is an Ukrainian blogger who identifies all resistance to the Maidan as being from Russian forces angry

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JohninMK Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:58 pm

ASB News / MILITARY
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Ukrainian Armed Forces took heavy material & personnel hits in Avdiivka; by Donbas/Donetsk republic forces

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VARGR198 Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:33 pm

I can't find the tweet right now, but I did read yesterday of a member of the Russian Government stating that the Taliban were now better equiped than Ukraine is. I found this dig rather amusing.

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ALAMO Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:04 am

VARGR198 wrote:I can't find the tweet right now, but I did read yesterday of a member of the Russian Government stating that the Taliban were now better equiped than Ukraine is. I found this dig rather amusing.

Well, if we take for granted that they left behind 80 000 military cars only ...
But I don't believe those numbers, anyway.
All of them are part of the giant fraud the Afghan used to be, bottom-up.

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JohninMK Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:51 pm

VARGR198 wrote:I can't find the tweet right now, but I did read yesterday of a member of the Russian Government stating that the Taliban were now better equiped than Ukraine is. I found this dig rather amusing.

This might help

Bryan MacDonald
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Russia’s defense minister has claimed that the US left behind a massive cache of weapons in Afghanistan, including more than 100 Javelin anti-tank missile systems.

Sergey Shoigu says the militant group is now better equipped than the Ukrainian Army.
https://rt.com/russia/533461-

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ALAMO Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 pm

Let's say it mildly, the comment itself is not from Shoigu, but Soloviev.
Yes, they left behind a 3x more javelins Ukrs received.
Does it state for overall equipment?
Hardly.
You can witness how the media sucks all over.

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GarryB Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:47 am

They left behind equipment but we have no idea in what state it was left... it could have been on fire for all we know.

More importantly 50 Javelins might turn into 1,000 when it comes time to send the bill... the CIA could simply spread rumours that many things are booby trapped... some rifle ammo with the propellent removed and some C4 and a detonator inside and people lose confidence in the stuff real quick...

Booby trapping ammo being left to be captured is a time honoured thing for the US... even back fighting the Indians they would allow blankets to be captured in winter with people suffering from disease contaminating them in the hopes of wiping out entire groups of Indians with bio warfare.

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ALAMO Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:46 am

Russians had a dedicated anti-insurgency round, intended to be left in depots conquered/looted by the enemy.
It was designed to explode in a barrel. Don't remember the project name/number.

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kvs Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:42 pm

Russia is not going to renew the permit for OSCE "observers" (aka NATzO spies) to monitor the automobile traffic between Russia
and the LNR and DNR after September 30, 2021.

The OSCE was invited to these crossing points before the Minsk Accords. But now the Ukr freaks in Khuyiv are trying to paint this
change in status as some sort of gross violation of those accords. Even though Russia is not even a party in them with any obligations
while Khuyiv has systematically violated and ignored all of its obligations.

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GarryB Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:59 am

Russians had a dedicated anti-insurgency round, intended to be left in depots conquered/looted by the enemy.
It was designed to explode in a barrel. Don't remember the project name/number.

Have never heard of that before.

I know the CIA used to sabotage ammo left behind by forces in Vietnam during that war to try to damage the image of the weapons they were using, and of course there were plenty of accusations in the west during the 1980s that the evil Soviets were making mines and explosive devices look like pens and teddy bears to kill and maim children... but it always turned out it was bullshit... the stuff was found to be CIA plants and most of it was made in Japan.

Most of the time AFAIK the Soviets used to just burn everything they had to leave behind... a few road flares and engine oil in an armoured vehicle or aircraft would reduce it to scrap... takes a few seconds to spread the fuel and another second to light the flare and drop it in and walk away... no need to monitor it or anything... on to the next thing...

Large amounts of ammo were often burned or detonated in place... fire is excellent for getting rid of excess munitions.

I would think booby trapped ammo could be more trouble than it is worth if it gets mixed with normal stocks.

If you have any info about it I would be interested in reading anything you can find.

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owais.usmani Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:57 pm

https://tass.com/world/1334091

KIEV, September 4. /TASS/. Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Valery Zaluzhny would like to drive a tank along Arbat Street and around Red Square in Moscow, he admitted in response to a question from a viewer on Ukrainian TV on Saturday.

"To tell the truth, I think yes, and along Arbat too," Zaluzhny said, adding in response to the anchorwoman’s follow-up question, "Yes, but carefully, since it is a monument."

Zaluzhny also answered in the affrimative when asked if he would like to drive a tank to the music and under the Ukrainian flag.

On July 27, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky dismissed Ruslan Khomchak and appointed Zaluzhny as commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces.

The new top military chief was born in Novograd-Volynsky, Zhitomir Region. He is a career military officer and has served as commander of the North Operational Command since 2019.

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GarryB Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:21 am

All they have left is big talk...

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