VVS Russian Airforce Force: News #2

Isos wrote:Already said basing planes west of the Urals is dumb. They can be reached by drones like yesterday.

Transport planes and bombers have enough range to be used from Siberia, just fucking use the strategical deapth of your country.

Those dumb generals keep their bombers close to ukraine to launch very long range missiles always from the caspian sea at target that can be atta k with cheaper stuff... I mean are they aware they need to change tactics and mke a better use of their hardware.

For the first time, the PP-2000 submachine gun began to be placed in the military survival kit of VKS pilots

TULA, September 29. /TASS/. For the first time, the PP-2000 submachine gun began to be placed in the emergency reserve of pilots of the Aerospace Forces (VKS) of the Russian Federation. This was announced by Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces Yuri Grekhov during an inspection of the Instrument Engineering Design Bureau named after Academician A.G. Shipunov.

“In the NAZ (portable emergency reserve - TASS note) it is placed under the pilot’s seat,” he said in response to a comment from Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who pointed out the need for the PP-2000 in the NAZ for pilots and held this weapon in his hands.

Earlier, TASS reported that the Russian Ministry of Defense is considering the possibility of including military pilots in the NAZ instead of the AKS-74U assault rifle with a more compact PP-2000 submachine gun. In May, the Tula Instrument Design Bureau (part of the "High-Precision Complexes" of the Rostec state corporation), which developed the weapon, reported positive test results on the convenience of placing weapons in the NAZ and that a batch of PP-2000 was undergoing trial operation in the Aerospace Forces.

The PP-2000 is chambered for the 9x19 Parabellum cartridge. The weapon is one of the lightest in the world - 1.4 kg without magazine and stock. A special feature of the PP-2000 is the ability to use a spare magazine as a shoulder rest. The bolt handle and magazine release button can be reinstalled on either side, allowing the weapon to be used comfortably by both right-handed and left-handed people.

GarryB wrote:This video sort of explains it.

It shows video from the Ka-52 crew who had to land and be rescued and they seem to have AKs so they were OK but some aircrew don't have space for a full sized rifle and ammo... whether it folds or not... and so smaller is better.

The PP-2000 seems go be gaining popularity despite looking funny. Watch the video above and see how easy it is to strip and handle.

GarryB wrote:Traditionally for escape and evasion the weapon used was a pistol, so a SMG and a light assault rifle is always going to be a step up.

A way to create a more compact weapon is to use a projectile that does not rely on high velocity for effect, a popular option is 9mm pistol ammo, but the Russians also have 9x39mm ammo as well.

The AMB-17 is suppressed and compact and quiet... but then the 9a-91 is designed to be a compact assault rifle and at 2.1kgs with a length of 383mm with the stock folded it is a very compact weapon in 9 x 39mm ammo.
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They had very limited options during the cold war but in the 1990s large numbers of interesting options became available and they still have a variety of choices available to them, each with advantages and disadvantages.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:for western customers there is version "pride"

Hole wrote:Don´t know where to put this, so it ends here.  

M-55 with recon pod, propably for testing