Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia

Airbornewolf wrote:heads up, U.S airforce on the move from Poland, V-22 and two Super Hercules have departed and seems to be on the way to Ukraine.

Zelensky's evac flights?. who knows? .

https://www.flightradar24.com/2ae5ac42 V-22
https://www.flightradar24.com/RAGGY81/2ae5a5d2 Hercules #1
https://www.flightradar24.com/125759/2ae5a926 Hercules #2

U.S C-17 also joined the formation on the Polish-Ukraine border:

https://www.flightradar24.com/RCH877/2ae54110

bitcointrader70 wrote:Here come the sanctions. MAX PAIN

Yup, for Europe and to a lessor degree the US and a much lessor degree for Russia. It has taken so long to decide on them as they know the real risk of shooting themselves in the foot and that is before Russia counter sanctions as it did in 2014.

It may have escaped your notice but it is winter and there is a serious energy crunch underway in Europe caused by a reluctance to buy gas at the current high prices and to use their vast amounts of stored gas instead. They got so carried away doing this that they have already used 95% of their stored gas, reducing it to an unheard of level when they are only half way through winter. Their timing could not have been worse given the current situation as they were about to have to buy Russian gas in large quantities, as all LNG terminals are already fully booked.

If there are sanction and Russia decides to respond then the obvious option they have, as it is not actually a ‘sanction’ and doesn’t break any contracts they might have, is to slow down or stop supplying the nat gas spot market. This will either mean that the Europeans go seriously short of gas and what gas there is will be at crazy prices (incidentally making the US/EU very unpopular with other nat gas buyers round the World also hit with higher prices) or they will be forced back onto Russia’s favoured long term supply contracts, as Hungary with excellent foresight did last September.

That would be pain, pain and yet more pain.

Putin's take on sanctions

https://tass.com/politics/1406157

Rumor has it that Russian peace keepers will move in to 'separate' the lines. NAF is fully mobilizing and moving to the lines. Rumor has it that Russian forces in their task of peace keepers are also moving at the invitation of Novorossiya. Next will be elections and a constitutional government set up in Novorossiya.

It is unknown at this time of Novorossiya forces will move to take back from the orcs the remaining lands of Donetsk Oblast and Lughansk Oblast.

d_taddei2 wrote:This seem to escalating slightly. There was video footage of a burning BMP but sputnik has since removed it ????

Russia Recognises Donbass Republics' Independence

https://sputniknews.com/20220221/russia-recognises-donbass-republics-independence-1093241178.html

Russian Military and FSB Prevent Illegal Crossing of Border by Sabotage Group From Ukraine. Five members of a Ukrainian sabotage group have been killed by Russian troops and FSB border guard forces after attempting to illegally cross the Russian border, the press service of Russia's Southern Military District has announced.
The incident was said to have taken place near the border between Ukraine and the Russian region of Rostov.

Fake news, that sh*t was debunked.

auslander wrote:Rumor has it that Russian peace keepers will move in to 'separate' the lines. NAF is fully mobilizing and moving to the lines. Rumor has it that Russian forces in their task of peace keepers are also moving at the invitation of Novorossiya. Next will be elections and a constitutional government set up in Novorossiya.

It is unknown at this time of Novorossiya forces will move to take back from the orcs the remaining lands of Donetsk Oblast and Lughansk Oblast.

Wonder how long it'll be till there's a referendum on joining Russia? Do you reckon there'll be one in either/both republics?

Airbornewolf wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:heads up, U.S airforce on the move from Poland, V-22 and two Super Hercules have departed and seems to be on the way to Ukraine.

Zelensky's evac flights?. who knows? .

https://www.flightradar24.com/2ae5ac42 V-22
https://www.flightradar24.com/RAGGY81/2ae5a5d2 Hercules #1
https://www.flightradar24.com/125759/2ae5a926 Hercules #2

U.S C-17 also joined the formation on the Polish-Ukraine border:

https://www.flightradar24.com/RCH877/2ae54110

Might be nothing more nefarious than a training exercise with a heavy presence from AFSOC's 352nd SOW. There's also two MC-130Js operating in Poland right now.

currently, there are rumors that military armored vehicles have moved from Russia to the territory of the DPR and LPR

Scorpius wrote:currently, there are rumors that military armored vehicles have moved from Russia to the territory of the DPR and LPR

https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1495877460944203777

This is doing the rounds on twitter

Along with this, shared upthread too I think

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1495877872304726018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1495877872304726018%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

The EU will not impose sanctions against Russia in connection with the recognition of the DNR and LNR immediately, because it wants to see Moscow's next steps-- European officials

Reportedly, the 8th Guards Combined Arms Army of the Russian Ground Forces is now entering the Donetsk & Lugansk People's Republics.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1495878642588700675

LPR/DPR do not have MSTA-S....right?  

BREAKING: American diplomats evacuated from Kiev to Lvov earlier are being evacuated from Ukraine to Poland

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1495899752550092806

Could explain the presence of those two MC-130J and CV-22B in Poland; the former have just left their orbit near the Ukr border.

flamming_python wrote:Is this the best these idiots in the Kremlin have come up with, when they presented their ultimatum to NATO?

Turning the Ukraine into a battlefield?

I thought they would act smarter

And Putin's delusional if he thinks his grand speech will garner support from Russians. There is no 'just cause' here. We won't be acting in defense.

Ultimately it's just nationalistic/ nostalgic wibble. No one really wins (aside from weapons manufacturers), only losers in this- civilians living in the conflict zone and dead soldiers and their friends/families on both sides.

flamming_python wrote:Is this the best these idiots in the Kremlin have come up with, when they presented their ultimatum to NATO?

Turning the Ukraine into a battlefield?

I thought they would act smarter

And Putin's delusional if he thinks his grand speech will garner support from Russians. There is no 'just cause' here. We won't be acting in defense.

Least damaging move.?

What would you do (in short - bullet points if you have time) ?

flamming_python wrote:

Kriva wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Is this the best these idiots in the Kremlin have come up with, when they presented their ultimatum to NATO?

Turning the Ukraine into a battlefield?

I thought they would act smarter

And Putin's delusional if he thinks his grand speech will garner support from Russians. There is no 'just cause' here. We won't be acting in defense.

Least damaging move.?

What would you do (in short - bullet points if you have time) ?

If war was inevitable, I would not strike first.

I would prepare and make sure I can absorb any blow as well as I could. But I would leave making the decision on going for it to the other guy. Then all would know, that I did not provoke any situation.

There is no war going on, thankfuly.

Yea, isn't this actually going to make the war much less likely?
Ukraine will stop bombing now that the republics are openly and officially backed by Russia. No amount of American pressure will make them attack.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/2/21/us-warns-of-possible-targeted-killings-by-russia-live-news

Russian army gone in, flaming have some dignity man , dont be a vlasovite