Russian special military operation in Ukraine #2

Hole wrote:
Paratroopers landing near Kiev. From ASB news. Take it with a grain of salt, russian forces have airports under their control. No need for that.

Where is the plane ? They can take apicture of the para but not the plane ?

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Yes, even in Germany, it is massive with the bullshit. No information about the coup 2014. No info about 8 years terror attacks on in the east on Ukraine. Nothing. Even the party "DIE LINKE" stands for Ukraine! "Never fascism again" there is no more here.

Sad to hear that from Die Linke, but I guess this is the event that tells true patriotic leftists from posers, where the whole Western left falls squarely from what we are seeing. These frauds would have objected the Red Army taking Berlin in 1945, because "Peace Good, War Bad"

Isos wrote:

Hole wrote:
Paratroopers landing near Kiev. From ASB news. Take it with a grain of salt, russian forces have airports under their control. No need for that.

Where is the plane ? They can take  apicture of the para but not the plane ?

Looks like smoke not paratroopers.

miketheterrible wrote:

Maximmmm wrote:Alright boys, I’ll ride your optimism wave, god bless you all <3

No, there is tons of criticism needed.  But it has to be proven.

For instance, leaving the airforce base unprotected so a tochka went through, not providing close air support for two supply columns so they get hit.  Yes, possibly those supplies got hit, left other soldiers stranded without supplies.

These are things that the Russian authorities learn. To expect perfection in war is silly. I'm much older than you and I recall wars of the past where tons of mistakes are made and no matter how well prepared you are, you will always have surprises.

But to believe that Russia lost 3500 soldiers (much easier to prove), loss of two il76's (also easy to prove) and lost positions (this one is my favorite since russia gained a shit ton of ground in 3 days), I would say that is spreading fud and being concerned in the wrong area.

Oh but then we agree, I never believed any of that horseshit. I was referring to the vids of our columns that were ambushed or covered by arty. There’s enough stuff on reputable channels to cross reference, also some equipment is clearly ours and can’t be mixed up.
I didn’t mean to sound alarmist.

bitcointrader70 wrote:

Isos wrote:

Hole wrote:
Paratroopers landing near Kiev. From ASB news. Take it with a grain of salt, russian forces have airports under their control. No need for that.

Where is the plane ? They can take  apicture of the para but not the plane ?

Looks like smoke not paratroopers.

New communication technology   it's a data link for that ghost mig-29 pilot

Hole wrote:
Paratroopers landing near Kiev. From ASB news. Take it with a grain of salt, russian forces have airports under their control. No need for that.

It is something else, maybe a photoshop or a wird effect from the light in the camera. You do not drop paratroopers over a city. ever..

It could also be a diversion, dolls manikins or something to **** with the minds of all the chimpanzees they handed out guns to. But I doubt they would risk a transport plane over a city that last night had active air defences hidden in it for something like that.

And it could also be a missdrop

auslander wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:Watch that guy behind Porky on the uttermost Left side   ....you do not need to watch further than 0:45, but do watch from the beginning.

Made me chuckle! he got the "special" forces all right, but not tier one! =)

Reminds me of the trick I used to use in the a bar in US. There was always one or to who were running their mouths about their time 'in the Nam' and killing about a kazzilion 'gooks'.
Note 1. When Brand X is shooting at you when you leave, you lost.
Note 2. The sure fire way to out a poser. Which side of the weapon main frame on Comrade Kalashnikov's Ode to World Peace is the magazine release on? Easy question, either right or left and if they say for instance 'left' and you mention 'wrong' it's always 'Oh yeah, been so long I forgot, it's on the right side.'
Note 3. Wrong again, asshole.

the average american perception of how they peform in war:



And these people are everywhere sadly

Finty wrote:

Regular wrote:

Finty wrote:.

What are you trying to program here, fucking hacker

Just post short description and URL

Embedded tweets, they worked for me but whatever, I'll repost.

*edit* this was it https://twitter.com/DavidYankovich/status/1497682672247873536

False info. He is still alive

Airbornewolf wrote:

And these people are everywhere sadly

I served but never deployed, im proud of that, no need to make shit up I know how easy I would be called out for it. =)

PhSt wrote:

I'd say your brain is more nuked for your inability to process my statement.    War is about violence and intimidation. There is a tendency for humans or animals to resist or fight back against something they disprove, but with enough pain and suffering they will give in, I have proven this through experience. I wish I can perform the same experiments on you. But Russia will soon obliterate your city anyways so that works for my entertainment too

I'm guessing your мама enjoyed a lot of vodka when she was carrying you, or you were dropped on your head. If you think anyone is getting nuked or that it would be a good thing then you are truly ret*rded. Bear in mind that Moscow and every other cack hole east of Suwalki would be turned to glass too.

Flak smoke, seen yesterday as well

Maximmmm wrote:Alright boys, I’ll ride your optimism wave, god bless you all <3

It is not optimism, it is simply not justified IMHO to think that the plan and its execution are amateurish... I would focus more attention into the big picture and less into every detail, they are often fake

With all these EU countries arming Ukraine with various weapons. Maybe it's time for Russia to arm terrorist organisations in EU with arms and see how that turns out for EU countries. Arming orcs is bad, arming hobgoblins even more so, but arming neo Nazi goblins takes the p*ss EU should remember without the Soviet Union they would have been f*cked over in WW2. Sickens me.

EU countries should be asking themselves are they adding fuel to fire or trying to stop the conflict? I think they will find it's the former. Let me hope Russia doesn't forget what they did. And when it comes to them wanting gas charge them accordingly. C*nts

Karl Haushofer wrote:

bitcointrader70 wrote:Too many dead Russians this is bad. This was a poorly planned haphazard war. Obviously Ukrainians and Russians aren’t brothers anymore.

Russia's screw ups in Ukraine.

Ethnic Russian Lenin created Ukraine.

No.. it was german forces in world war 1 ,that created ukraine in ~1918 when invaded western side of russian empire. The first president of ukraine was a german.. interesting eh? and the banderastan from galicia , supported the invaders with open arms. From the baltics to crimea , all those territories ,including belarus ,was called "ukraine" by german forces that captured it. But the germans retreated/kicked from those zones in 1922 with the creation of the jewish bolshevik project called Soviet Union after the russian civil war. Then they began to split the russian empire in zones.. with their own full autonomy. probably they did this , to make it more difficult to reverse the coup and prevent the restoration of the orthodox Russia .


The biggest problems i see with the Russian operations in ukraine are..

1) putin ceases of fire.. he needs to be sedated and put to sleep for a full month , so the military not interrupted.
2) lack of drones support.. Russia needs to have 24 hours drones above their convoys for target adquisition and avoid any surprises.
3)Putins ridiculous hopes ,that he can convince the west into being nice with russia by being polite.
4)lack of ambitions of putin , damage the the country naational security and make it vulnerable
to western sanctions.

d_taddei2 wrote:With all these EU countries arming Ukraine with various weapons. Maybe it's time for Russia to arm terrorist organisations in EU with arms and see how that turns out for EU countries.

EU countries should be asking themselves are they adding fuel to fire or trying to stop the conflict? I think they will find it's the former. Let me hope Russia doesn't forget what they did. And when it comes to them wanting gas charge them accordingly. C*nts

Russia could take out the Middle Eastern oil production with tsirkons. And cut the internet cables in the Atlantic ocean.

This would be a retaliation that would be hard to match.

Of course Russia will never do this, but in theory that is doable for Russia.

d_taddei2 wrote:With all these EU countries arming Ukraine with various weapons. Maybe it's time for Russia to arm terrorist organisations in EU with arms and see how that turns out for EU countries.

EU countries should be asking themselves are they adding fuel to fire or trying to stop the conflict? I think they will find it's the former. Let me hope Russia doesn't forget what they did. And when it comes to them wanting gas charge them accordingly. C*nts

In scandinavia the narrative for years has been that our militant right wing groups, as well as both our leftists and populist right in parliament is funded by Russia.

so they would not really loose any face by doing it.

Governor of Mykolayiv Oblast Vitaly Kim says Russian tanks attacked Mykolayiv and were moving through the city. Heavy fighting was reported in Mykolayiv earlier on that day. Kim later posted a video denying reports he had been captured
https://liveuamap.com/
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Means the Tanks have already come very farther west.

The big story right now is that the dishing out of weapons to randos and prisoners let out to fight is resulting in damage
to regime forces. In Kharkov a Tochka-U system was destroyed by these "defenders". They are basically wild animals on the
loose and do not follow a tight command and control. The shooting inside Kiev is all from gangs settling scores.

The paranoia level is really something. It tells me that there is nascent resistance and the regime loyalists are afraid.

I wonder if sitting on the outskirts of the big cities will be all that is needed. The chaos in the cities generated by the
lunatics and actual criminals cannot be viable state.

"EU's UVDL just announced that a number of Russian banks will be removed from SWIFT, plus that assets of the Russian Central Bank will be paralyzed"...

EkErilaz wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:

And these people are everywhere sadly

I served but never deployed, im proud of that, no need to make shit up I know how easy I would be called out for it. =)

I also served for 10+ years. Never deployed, never shot at anyone and I am very happy for it. My qualifications are very mundane, all infantry and logistics. Last bit was very useful as it helped me in civilian life. I don't have any insider info and there are civilians who know more about my own weapons I qualified with. And I was the geek in the military...shows how "smart" soldiers are lol.

Plenty of us here have military background, but I've only seen 1 o here is claiming that he is super duper ACTIVE SF haha.

EkErilaz wrote:
In scandinavia the narrative for years has been that our militant right wing groups, as well as both our leftists and populist right in parliament is funded by Russia.

so they would not really loose any face by doing it.

Meanwhile Sweden patriates ISIS/Daesh members.

The west is a lost cause.

High concentration of fire. This should be in Kiev though

Hole wrote:
Paratroopers landing near Kiev. From ASB news. Take it with a grain of salt, russian forces have airports under their control. No need for that.

purely directed at the picture, and not at hole.
Always appreciate your posts

why would any millitary make an para insertion near/above an city?. where the lights reflect off your shutes?. give the enemy the oppertunity to eliminate you either in the air, or intercept you on the ground?. Need to first regroup on the ground?.

Take an helicopter, take an truck, or just jump miles away in total darkness in some ass end of nowhere and leg it to the target?.

You do not want paratroop capable aircraft not near cities either, because they are big targets. Need to slow down for drop, and need to maintain course for drop.
anStrela 10, that are confirmed to be inside Kiev only need to get an LOS and you lose your very highly-trained paratroopers.
Threats to aircraft can be anywhere in urban area's.

Russians entering Melitopol and destroyed Ukrainian column near Nikolaev