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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:08 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:

    Remember these days for we are privileged to see them.  This marks the end of the Western globalist unipolar moment, and these MFers can smell it in the air.

    russia

    In what way? So far for me it looks that there's only a unipolar-anti Russian movement even from countries that were neutral before.

    Also, it's easy to be optimistic, but I have quite a large family in Russia and I am shitting my pants because I don't want them to suffer in any way.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:08 pm

    Yes, i always took you for an Nazi, Emperor Palpatine...



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    Post  Arsenic Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:10 pm

    Regular wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Finty wrote:Sounds like we could all do with someone turning Putin’s grey matter into wallpaper, if he’s as mental as is being implied.

    He isn't. But he does seem to have backed himself into a bit of a corner.

    Well that's what happens when someone is on the throne for too long, like somebody already said.

    Dunno what's going to happen now. Russia ruined its own moral authority by invading, regardless of how 'politely' its troops behave.

    dunno

    No one sees Russian troops as polite apart Russians, they already reporting about rapes and looting and it's all over Western Media.

    Moral authority doesn't matter and the narrative is already set.

    I don't see an exit from this at all, there's no bunny in the hat. Nuclear posturing, be it if it's deterrent forces is not a sign of strength from where I look at it.

    I'm from the west, and I watch western newspapers or television and the internet, I've never seen or read this yet...

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    Post  Urluber Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:11 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:What’s the endgame for this war? They failed to take Kiev quickly. I know people will claim they are moving and taking a lot of ground but they are losing a lot of soldiers and armor. They tried to take Kiev with paratroopers and failed. Now it’s going to be a long and painful war. I expect this to go on for at least a month if ukraine digs in and they don’t negotiate a deal of some kind.

    Russia is using very narrow section of its capabilities.
    I still insist on softening the Kiev defences with missile strikes. Strike military positions, government buildings, fuel reserves and so on.

    Last night a huge fire raged over Kiev due to explosion of oil depot. More of this. Russia must know where the Kiev military fuel depots are located - most likely they are in same place as back in 1990.
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    Post  wilhelm Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:12 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:Sounds like we could all do with someone turning Putin’s grey matter into wallpaper, if he’s as mental as is being implied.

    That's the problem with you americans. You always speak for others. Just **** off in your country. Take your dollars, soldiers, missiles and most importabtly all your puppets.
    He's not American.
    He's from Little Britain

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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:12 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    Isos wrote:Soldiers park them in front of ukrainian, leave the area and let the ukrainians destroy it.

    So you are saying soldiers drove in to heart of Kharkov and left their equipment to get shot at?


    Clearly. They send small units which have no chance to take a city. It's mostly some propaganda to use then heavy forces.

    You are kidding me? What happened to vehicle occupants there? They were deep in the city, from one side reached very center of it.

    Why this was needed as propaganda to use heavy forces, why couldn't they be used in tandem. Infantry, heavy armor and rotary craft? Like what they did in 2nd Chechen war
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    Post  Finty Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:13 pm

    Just seen the news about peace talks (again). Also mention of possible 4,300 Russian dead- more than some estimates for the first Chechen war, sheesh!

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    Post  Finty Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:13 pm

    Arsenic wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Finty wrote:Sounds like we could all do with someone turning Putin’s grey matter into wallpaper, if he’s as mental as is being implied.

    He isn't. But he does seem to have backed himself into a bit of a corner.

    Well that's what happens when someone is on the throne for too long, like somebody already said.

    Dunno what's going to happen now. Russia ruined its own moral authority by invading, regardless of how 'politely' its troops behave.

    dunno

    No one sees Russian troops as polite apart Russians, they already reporting about rapes and looting and it's all over Western Media.

    Moral authority doesn't matter and the narrative is already set.

    I don't see an exit from this at all, there's no bunny in the hat. Nuclear posturing, be it if it's deterrent forces is not a sign of strength from where I look at it.

    I'm from the west, and I watch western newspapers or television and the internet, I've never seen or read this yet...


    Same

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    Post  Ghoster Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:14 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Azov base in Donskoye has fallen.

    Russian troops in Borodyanka, west of Kiev.

    Seems like history is repeating itself

    On 8 November 1943 Borodianka was liberated by the Soviet regiments of 75th Guards Rifle Division from the occupation of Nazi Germany.
    Rats nest gone? Good news. Cool

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    Post  Finty Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:15 pm

    wilhelm wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:Sounds like we could all do with someone turning Putin’s grey matter into wallpaper, if he’s as mental as is being implied.

    That's the problem with you americans. You always speak for others. Just **** off in your country. Take your dollars, soldiers, missiles and most importabtly all your puppets.
    He's not American.
    He's from Little Britain

    Think he's just jealous that the USA has clout that Russia lacks.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:15 pm

    Urluber wrote:I assume everyone understands that even if Russia halted the operation immediately and withdrew the forces, the sanctions would stay in place. Putin will not be smiling in photos with "western partners" anymore.

    Russia will face increasing regime change attempts from outside. They already started with Byelors and that woman popping up again. Trying to get people to streets in Minsk.
    At this point, it would worst possible thing to do. Simply, analyze your mistakes, correct them and do it the right way. I think that original thesis of "Ukrainian brothers" and massive defections proved to be wrong. Regroup and hit them hard.
    Continuing with present tactics is bad.
    One more thing. Since Ukr army parked lot of heavy weapons in the cities, use Orion. They should field 30-40 of them i think. For example, in Kharkov. Block the city and start destroying all army vehicles inside and manpower. After 3-4 days lets revisit surender thing again.
    Taking over Kharkov would be huge blow for rest of Ukraine, as that rn is a big propaganda tool.


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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:15 pm

    Updates

    White House: Impact on Global Economy Stops US From Imposing Energy Sanctions on Russia

    Zelensky's Office: Talks Between Russian, Ukrainian Delegations to Be Held Without Preconditions

    Lukashenko Guarantees All Belarusian Aircraft and Missiles Will Be Grounded During Moscow-Kiev Talks

    LPR Troops With Fire Support of Russian Armed Forces Advanced 56 Kilometres and are Developing Offensive Rapidly - MoD

    Ukrainian Nationalists are Trying to Stop Retreating Army in Severodonetsk, Russian Defense Ministry Says

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    Post  lancelot Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:17 pm

    flamming_python wrote:He isn't. But he does seem to have backed himself into a bit of a corner.

    Well that's what happens when someone is on the throne for too long, like somebody already said.

    Dunno what's going to happen now. Russia ruined its own moral authority by invading, regardless of how 'politely' its troops behave. And in front of its own people first and foremost. If a demand can be made to Ukrainian troops to stop defending their 'regime' and lay down arms, then surely that can be made towards our troops too.
    Everyone supports Russia acting in defense. But I doubt most Russians support the campaign against the Ukraine at the moment.
    Since you are supposedly a Communist, what do you think about the Winter War and the annexation of the Baltics, etc under Stalin?
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:21 pm

    Finty wrote:Just seen the news about peace talks (again). Also mention of possible 4,300 Russian dead- more than some estimates for the first Chechen war, sheesh!

    I would say over 200 by now, but it's hard to tell

    Totaled VDV convoy on outskirts of Kiev, and ambushed Tigr and light vehicle convoy in Kharkov is what I've seen today.

    In regards to the later one, 1 Russian serviceman was taken prisoner, but I didn't see any bodies of other Russian soldiers.

    More than anything this actually reminds me of 1993 Chechnya. When Russian servicemen in support of pro-Russian Chechens attempted to take Grozny in a coup (this was a year before the invasion started), but failed and were captured.

    Still, on the whole the advance is proceeding as planned. The set-backs are tactical.

    The bigger worry is the home-front, and the media war, and in general the escalating situation. And the apparent backwards and forwards on actual war aims. No-one understands what the mission seems to actually be. Maybe it will depend on the relative success or failure of the operation as a whole.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:22 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Updates

    Zelensky's Office: Talks Between Russian, Ukrainian Delegations to Be Held Without Preconditions



    Ukro's can try and sugar-coat their surrender.
    Or this is just the next lunatic straight-jacket ukrainian drivel.

    It does not impact the millitary operation in my opinion.
    Objectives stand ,get it done.


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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:22 pm

    Finty wrote:Just seen the news about peace talks (again). Also mention of possible 4,300 Russian dead- more than some estimates for the first Chechen war, sheesh!

    How can you actually count losses on any side during the active conflict?

    Ignore numbers for now

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:24 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:There certainly are a lot of whining pussies in the forum these days.  What the fck did you expect would happen?  


    The Duran video posted by par far goes into details about how NATzO is actually in a panic. They have detonated financial nukes
    that will partition the global (aka western run) financial system into the rump western part and the Russia-China-India-others part.
    NATzO is shooting itself in the head and not in the foot.

    After Putin rattled the nuclear saber a bit, blowhard chicken hawk Stoltenberg quickly changed his tune and claimed Russia is not an
    existential threat to NATzO. Before that there was a crescendo rising of launching a war to take out the new Saddam Hussein, i.e. Putin.


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    Post  Arsenic Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:26 pm

    4300 dead on the Russian side, that seems impossible to me. The Ukrainians would show the images...

    The Russians, in their goal, should cut off all internet in Ukraine. Social networks, today, are also a weapon.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:35 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Finty wrote:Just seen the news about peace talks (again). Also mention of possible 4,300 Russian dead- more than some estimates for the first Chechen war, sheesh!

    I would say over 200 by now, but it's hard to tell

    Totaled VDV convoy on outskirts of Kiev, and ambushed Tigr and light vehicle convoy in Kharkov is what I've seen today.

    In regards to the later one, 1 Russian serviceman was taken prisoner, but I didn't see any bodies of other Russian soldiers.

    More than anything this actually reminds me of 1993 Chechnya. When Russian servicemen in support of pro-Russian Chechens attempted to take Grozny in a coup (this was a year before the invasion started), but failed and were captured.

    Still, on the whole the advance is proceeding as planned. The set-backs are tactical.

    The bigger worry is the home-front, and the media war, and in general the escalating situation. And the apparent backwards and forwards on actual war aims. No-one understands what the mission seems to actually be. Maybe it will depend on the relative success or failure of the operation as a whole.

    The push is still quite fast. Yes, there are losses but the pictures of losses are too low. Here and there a B3 or T90, as a spahtrup, but no 3500 to 4000 victims. Maybe 300 to 400. But we have day 4 and 100 a day with the size of the Ukrainian army can be scheduled.

    Cool remain, Operation runs well. Here and there mistakes but nothing what the liberation stops. Country in two parts columns. .

    Negotiations only lead to clear appearance. No stop of the operation! Create facts. Do not allow the West Ukraine to transform into an Idleb 2.0.

    PR on Twitter is Bullshit. Russian troops in good morale. See various videos. Units of Ukraine are partially complete. There is hope for a rethink there!

    PS: Here, the Strela 10 carrier was bombarded. He is Ukrainian. Exercise when giving civilians weapons. Please check the video until the end.
    https://vk.com/video-70204174_456275874

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:37 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:

    Remember these days for we are privileged to see them.  This marks the end of the Western globalist unipolar moment, and these MFers can smell it in the air.

    russia

    In what way? So far for me it looks that there's only a unipolar-anti Russian movement even from countries that were neutral before.

    The US regime has made the cardinal error of corrupting the so-called "international" finance system in the pursuit of geopolitical aims.  The other major economic players (China, India, ME) will not approve of this crap and this will hugely accelerate then de-dollarisation trend as even US allies around the globe realize that they are vulnerable.

    The globalists have turned the sanctions dial to the max and there is nowhere else to go.  They lack the courage to target Russias energy and materials exports as they know it will crash their own economies, but the sanctions they can action are insufficient and won't deal significant damage to either Russian warfighting capability or internal stability.  They can attempt a massive coordinated short on the ruble, but that simply creates buying opportunities for those who have the cash.  Soros lost his shirt trying to crash the HK dollar (not once but twice) and those who join in to any such attack on Russia will pay similar price. In any event, Russia is a ruble economy and is self sufficient in most goods, so the FOREX rates has a very much smaller impact than it does in import-reliant nations (ie the entire Western world). Western 'elites" suffer from excessive projection, believing their own weaknesses are applicable to others.

    In what way is there a "unipolar-anti Russian movement"???  China and India are both refusing to blame Russia, and even the UAE refused to vote with the West in the UNSC.  Western hysterical MSM and regime media white noise is a useless exercise in orchestrated hyperbole.  Nations that matter are kepeing tehior own counsel and simply watch on as teh West embarrasses itself and demonstrates its outrageous double-standards for all to see.  No official criticism of the US invasion of Iraq or the use of Wahabbi terror gands to destroy Libya and (attempts on) Syria, yet all this absurd fuss about Russia smacking (a non-NATO) Ukraine? Laughing

    Western hegemony is based on control of global finance in general, and the use of the (fiat) USD as global reserve in particular.  Once they loose this as other major economies protect themselves and develop their own independent financial links, Western power will be irredeemably shattered.  

    Small minds concentrate on the tactical to-and-fro in Ukraine, but the smart people watch what happens regarding the  lifeblood of Empire.

    russia

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:41 pm

    Bagdad bob, Kiev Edition is at it again.

    Destroyed russian forces by ukraine.
    Russian poster on Telegram: Forgotten the 2 death stars and 3 aircraft carriers

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    Post  Isos Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:42 pm

    wilhelm wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:Sounds like we could all do with someone turning Putin’s grey matter into wallpaper, if he’s as mental as is being implied.

    That's the problem with you americans. You always speak for others. Just **** off in your country. Take your dollars, soldiers, missiles and most importabtly all your puppets.
    He's not American.
    He's from Little Britain

    Same shit.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:42 pm


    Agree with those that say, more Russian forces are needed in Ukraine . Really , 70,000 does not appear to be a big number to me , for a country the size of Ukraine . Makes me wonder , how they managed to gain any ground , and hold it , with such speed . The two major cities are at least encircled . No use keeping the + 100'000 plus troops in reserve for NATO . That confrontation will not be conventional . Therefore makes sense to put nuclear forces on high alert in Europe , against any type of advance against Russia .

    Those clever Mathematicians , need an algorithm developed for decision on taking or encircling a city . Like operational research tools . It is not up to a gut feeling of probing ! We need to measure the levels of force between the two sides . An attack to take a city happens , when our forces reach maximum constant level , and theirs reaches a minimum constant level . how can force levels be measured non - destructively ? Many ways .

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    Post  Isos Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:43 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:Bagdad bob, Kiev Edition is at it again.

    Destroyed russian forces by ukraine.
    Russian poster on Telegram: Forgotten the 2 death stars and 3 aircraft carriers

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 9 Kiev_b10

    They claim 3 Putin and 2 Lavrov too.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:43 pm

    Have anyone heard, because, there's no videos of Russians using Krasnopol and Kitolov in conjunction with drones? That would be perfect for Kharkov situation. Also very cheap and they must have thousands of those in stock.Due to insufficient nunber of strike drones it would be possible to do more with less.

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