Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

The great mistake of the United States in Iraq was to destroy its armed force and its moderate political structure. That exit went to the extremists and paramilitaries. That is what Russia does not want. It is important for Russia to use sociologists and researchers.

Arsenic wrote:"Lost Armour" internet site, is not bad to see the loss.

Regular wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

The great mistake of the United States in Iraq was to destroy its armed force and its moderate political structure. That exit went to the extremists and paramilitaries. That is what Russia does not want. It is important for Russia to use sociologists and researchers.

US couldn't win hearts and minds and use sociologists and researchers went nowhere, but Russia somehow will do this?

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

Regular wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

The great mistake of the United States in Iraq was to destroy its armed force and its moderate political structure. That exit went to the extremists and paramilitaries. That is what Russia does not want. It is important for Russia to use sociologists and researchers.

US couldn't win hearts and minds and use sociologists and researchers went nowhere, but Russia somehow will do this?

They convinced their population with the farce of "the war against terrorism" but they did not have a minimum of historical, social and cultural knowledge. The United States never took its social scientists into account. They have good universities but little integration into their political and military apparatus as one would expect.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:



Russian leadership has very low "social intelligence"; it thinks people who hate them and are mostly unrelated to them are their "brothers."

This approach will be a disaster if they do not change it.

mr_hd wrote:So far Putin managed to unite and energize dysfunctional EU, NATO and US with Ukraine fully in bunker mode and super rebellious. Russia was never in recent history so quickly isolated on world stage... all in all total miscalculation of risks, there are very difficult paths for Russia out from this mess.

adder wrote:Atleast some one in the US is trying to find truth with all the BS coming from western propaganda.
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/misinformation-coming-ukraine-front-kinzinger-gets-punked/

IMEREL
From professionals
Interview with Colonel of the Central Office of the Russian Defense Ministry Vladimir Trukhan:

Very many points are clarified very clearly:

1. There are NO conscripts in the military operation. Only contractors who have received appropriate training. Therefore, Belarusians do not participate either - they have the entire army on call, there are no professional contractors. Therefore, if someone screams about "corpses of Russian conscript boys", you can safely spit in his eyes.
2. There is no question of any 3.5 thousand killed Russian servicemen - such a number of dead would mean several times the number of wounded, which means that all roads would be clogged with ambulances in the opposite direction, plus the massive deployment of field hospitals-it is impossible to hide this. We don't see anything like this even in Ukrainian public pages.
3. Cases of "capture of individual Russian fighters", which are twisted by Bandera propaganda, are unlikely - a single unauthorized person who went to a neighboring village for moonshine can be captured, but this is not a fighter, this is a dolt. A single soldier during an operation in isolation from the column - but who will let him leave?
4. Cases of burnt columns on the march are possible, this is war, anything can happen. Someone made a mistake, didn't follow up, had to throw with empty tanks. For this, someone will pay with shoulder straps. In this case, presumably, the abandoned empty columns are burned by the APU retroactively for staged commercials.
5. The same with "missiles, ammunition and fuel, which are scarce and will last for 3-4 days" - enchanting nonsense. Military operations of this level are prepared for at least several months, everything is calculated and stored in advance with excessive redundancy for all cases.
6. The main leitmotif of the actions of the Russian Armed Forces: "we are not Americans." They are the ones who, when they see something or someone on the way, first throw a grenade, and then start to sort it out - and then if it comes to that. Therefore, a careful detour of a failed suicide who tried to climb under the tanks is the rule. No one is going to produce mountains of corpses, if a person does not resist, why kill him?
7. Blowing up the dam of the North Crimean Canal is a preventive measure if one of the frostbitten natsyukovs decides to blow up a higher dam so that the water has somewhere to go. The same applies to nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, and other infrastructure facilities - they are taken under control without fail.
8. The distribution of weapons to the untrained population, as well as all sorts of "Molotov cocktails", in opposition to professionals - enchanting dolboyashcherism. "Three or four stun grenades are enough for them to blow themselves up on the spot, drop their weapons and run away." Nothing but the blood of civilians at the hands of bandits, it will not bring. After that, it becomes clear that all the actions of "teroboronschikov" who destroy road signs, chase after those who allegedly put markings on roofs, and even blow up bridges-this is just stupidity and complete incompetence. For a modern tank driver still needs to be lured to an unknown bridge - but why should he risk flying from a collapsed bridge span of unknown condition, when it is easier to cross the barrier on a pontoon with a guarantee?
9. Kadyrov's men, trained in the fight against terrorists in urban conditions and trained accordingly, will clean up the uporotyshs.
10. Russian Armed Forces units participating in the operation do not use mortars. All mortar attacks, all mortar explosions in residential areas (Sumy, Akhtyrka, in the Donbas), especially in meaningless places where there is no military or energy infrastructure, are provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and teroboronschikov in order to influence the consciousness of the local population.

In general, to sum up, there are no non-professionals in the operation. The operation was prepared well in advance in all its parameters, and the plan has a lot of ramifications for the various course of events.
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Feb 27 at 18:35

mr_hd wrote:So far Putin managed to unite and energize dysfunctional EU, NATO and US with Ukraine fully in bunker mode and super rebellious. Russia was never in recent history so quickly isolated on world stage... all in all total miscalculation of risks, there are very difficult paths for Russia out from this mess.

Regular wrote:
US couldn't win hearts and minds and use sociologists and researchers went nowhere, but Russia somehow will do this?

adder wrote:Atleast some one in the US is trying to find truth with all the BS coming from western propaganda.
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/misinformation-coming-ukraine-front-kinzinger-gets-punked/

Arkanghelsk wrote:

mr_hd wrote:So far Putin managed to unite and energize dysfunctional EU, NATO and US with Ukraine fully in bunker mode and super rebellious. Russia was never in recent history so quickly isolated on world stage... all in all total miscalculation of risks, there are very difficult paths for Russia out from this mess.

Russia was prepared for this, they dont care about any of it

He said sanctions would come anyway

They know what they do 

Who care if EU pretend to be United, without gas, metals , microchips , eu will see more exits

mr_hd wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

mr_hd wrote:So far Putin managed to unite and energize dysfunctional EU, NATO and US with Ukraine fully in bunker mode and super rebellious. Russia was never in recent history so quickly isolated on world stage... all in all total miscalculation of risks, there are very difficult paths for Russia out from this mess.

Russia was prepared for this, they dont care about any of it

He said sanctions would come anyway

They know what they do 

Who care if EU pretend to be United, without gas, metals , microchips , eu will see more exits

Ah both Russia and US were always feeling much more superior compared to EU in regard to hard power. But suddenly EU is launching huge military budget and is alone ready to get involved into third country conflict against Russia-far the strongest, huge Euroasian power. Security in continent is changing in a way that Russia was for sure not anticipating, actually I am sure there are right now strategists in Kremlin that are shocked what is going on.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

mr_hd wrote:So far Putin managed to unite and energize dysfunctional EU, NATO and US with Ukraine fully in bunker mode and super rebellious. Russia was never in recent history so quickly isolated on world stage... all in all total miscalculation of risks, there are very difficult paths for Russia out from this mess.

Russia was prepared for this, they dont care about any of it

He said sanctions would come anyway