Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3
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https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
Edit: Fake news
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Cheetah wrote:Vann7 wrote:omg.. about fucking time..
They need much faster missiles , however , have seen them missing terrorist cars in motion at times.
Russia military needs to use instead hermes missiles much faster and far longer range , or some fire and forget missiles.. because staying a minute there still ,without moving ,guiding the missile , pose a major security risk for the hellicopter being shot by artillery gun or manpad.
Ataka and Vikhr travel between Mach 1.2 and 1.8. You can't really ask for much more speed out of an ATGM. Especially when analogs, like the Hellfire, are subsonic, and only fire-and-forget in ideal circumstances.
hermen missile speed is ~Mach 4.0
range 30km up to 100km.
travels 5 km in near 4 seconds and the helicopter not even need to aim..
so is virtually fire and forget.. because people in the ground can guide it with a lazer
in the last 5km.
so imagine a warship in azov sea.. armed with hundreds of them,, fire them in the direction their soldiers are , and the later redirect them to the final target. it will completely destroy a tank from nato in a frontal attack.. with 1,000mm penetration power or at least disable it.
don't give much time to evade it .
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zorobabel wrote:70 aircraft Ukraine will receive:
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14
Poland (MiG-29) - 28
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12
https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
I read that Bulgaria declined to deliver aircraft.
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Yeah, I read that too.Hole wrote:zorobabel wrote:70 aircraft Ukraine will receive:
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14
Poland (MiG-29) - 28
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12
https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
I read that Bulgaria declined to deliver aircraft.
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zorobabel wrote:70 aircraft Ukraine will receive:
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14
Poland (MiG-29) - 28
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12
https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
twitter being the pro-nato cesspool of Propaganda..
If actually true. because i know these country's do have these aircraft in operational condition...
Then Good, that means the NRF (Nato Response Force) will have to do without.
NATO be Like: "Take this aircraft on an suicide run into Ukraine, have fun! bye!"
And all these NATO tankers in holding patterns next to ukraine are "kinda sus"
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Hole wrote:zorobabel wrote:70 aircraft Ukraine will receive:
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14
Poland (MiG-29) - 28
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12
https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
I read that Bulgaria declined to deliver aircraft.
As a compensation they have to buy at least 40 f-35. You bet they declined.
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Isos wrote:Hole wrote:zorobabel wrote:70 aircraft Ukraine will receive:
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14
Poland (MiG-29) - 28
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12
https://twitter.com/komadovsky/status/1498401018555551747
I read that Bulgaria declined to deliver aircraft.
As a compensation they have to buy at least 40 f-35. You bet they declined.
Wait, what??
As compensation they have to buy??.... isn't it suppose to be the other way around?
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Well. I think humanism, which is there, is only part of the reason why Russia kept communications in Ukraine intact. OSINT works both ways - this morning you record your boys setting a position in the middle of apartment block but not horribly close to buildings, or a camp in the very open - the very next night a fireshow of Grads of something more precise descends on it.Cheetah wrote:I'm usually one for stats and numbers, and I'd like to say (hopefully without losing too much modesty) that I think I've gotten pretty good at sifting wheat from chaff, in an information context.
There has been enough information floating about to comprehend that the Russian forces are advancing, and quite quickly, all things considered. However, to get to the main point I'm trying to make here, despite understanding what's been going on at a statistic level, it has genuinely been quite demoralising, not seeing and media from the Russian side; and I find it interesting to note the relief I feel seeing just a few images of Russian drones, troop advancements, and helicopter sorties after what has essentially been 90% footage from the Ukrainian side of the front.
As much as I, as everyone here, like kewl photos of Russians being Russians at war, I`m glad there our opsec is maintained at least somewhat.
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Sofia’s military chief has been sacked for calling Russia’s conflict in Ukraine a ‘military intervention’ rather than a ‘war’
https://www.rt.com/news/550891-bulgaria-fires-defense-chief/
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zorobabel wrote:It's fake news. Slovakia also said it wasn't true. Disregard.
I really should have listened to Mike....
From now on, ill take his advice and ignore any posts, posting twitter shit.
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dante6913 wrote:asking for a friend. what holds Russian from gifting some goods to Houthis, those nice pipelines. Europeans are arming the Ukraine's
Saudi arabia isn't even supporting westerner. Neither are the rest. UAE price was in russia during the start of the operation. They don't give a **** about Ukraine.
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Isos wrote:dante6913 wrote:asking for a friend. what holds Russian from gifting some goods to Houthis, those nice pipelines. Europeans are arming the Ukraine's
Saudi arabia isn't even supporting westerner. Neither are the rest. UAE price was in russia during the start of the operation. They don't give a **** about Ukraine.
But who says the world is fair? Think on that nice long line to buy some Russian oil. Problem solved.
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Solidarity wrote " Is Russia able and willing to destroy Nato military supplies (including aircraft) that enter Ukrainian territory? " It has to try , since those weapons will be used for killing Russians . But since Russia has to save it's resources , then it must use the most efficient and cost effective methods . Using S300 to hit Drone is possible , but expensive , and gives away your location and frequency . In this case best save it for aircraft . Maybe use manpad ? With Mig29 , even wasting S300 , is not good . Maybe use ballistic missile , if cheaper against runway . But runway can be repaired even more easily , so best target the house of enemy politician with BM . But if you have time , cheaper to send a team , to put his assets in a bag ........But if they still play stupid , detonate a Nuke over Ocean and terrify them into submission ......basically go nuclear !
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Flaming Python I wouldnt want to be in a damn trench with you
You are like shemyakin from 28 panfilov , coward crying of defeat
5 days in man, GROW A PAIR KEEP CALM AND SUPPORT RUSSIA
Support what
Why the **** am I having to message a girl I know in Kiev on what to do and how to keep safe, and trying to keep her calm, that there won't be an all-out urban assault on the city?
I am no coward but I have to know what I'm fighting for. Everybody does at the end of the day.
I'm sorry none of this stuff was ever a good idea. And even if Russia caps the head Nazis and leaves - what then. You'll have a bunch of new ones.
Russia has to keep its objectives realistic. Regime change and nation-building aren't realistic. Neither is anything that leads to any kind of campaign longer than a week.
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Piskarev: punishment for fakes about the actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can reach 15 years in prison
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The head of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption said that there are supporters of the "fake war" not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia
MOSCOW, 28 February. /TASS/. The head of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, Vasily Piskarev, said that criminal liability for disinformation about the actions of the Russian Armed Forces during the military special operation in Ukraine could reach 15 years in prison.
"To provide for criminal liability for <...> the dissemination of knowingly false information (about the actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in conducting a special military operation in Ukraine - TASS note). Using the Internet - more stringent responsibility, a group of persons - even more stringent responsibility, entailing consequences - up to 15 years in prison. This, in my opinion, is fair, we will protect our armed forces," he said on Channel One on Monday.
Piskarev added that State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin supported the proposal of parliamentarians to introduce liability for disinformation about the actions of the Russian Armed Forces during the military special operation in Ukraine.
https://tass.ru/politika/13906209
Airbornewolf wrote:zorobabel wrote:It's fake news. Slovakia also said it wasn't true. Disregard.
I really should have listened to Mike....
From now on, ill take his advice and ignore any posts, posting twitter shit.
it's not only twitter but sources. As for Poland, AFAIK they have 48MiGs 29 of which 26 can me fully operations - those to be sent to Ukraine.
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flamming_python wrote:
Russia has to keep its objectives realistic. Regime change and nation-building aren't realistic. Neither is anything that leads to any kind of campaign longer than a week.
How do you know what capabilities are and objectives of new campaign? Im really curious. Seems you know something Russian side doesn't.
The Ministry of Defense showed the helicopter gunships engaging Ukrainian military.
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