mack8 wrote:Again, don't fall for the propaganda. Me i am certain of the loss (based on bort number and/or wreck) of one Mi-8, one Mi-35, one Su-34, one Su-30SM. Bad, but not as bad as they try to make it look.
They are trying to add the aircraft lost yesterday (i have posted about that yesterday i think), to make it worse than it is.
Don't believe everything Oryx says, he has an anti-russian agenda, and he's some kind of TB2 propagandist (maybe he's getting cash from the turks to spew his propaganda crap).
And this are planes that are supposed to have electronic warfare ,president S ?
is there is a good thing in all this , is that now putin knows ,they need to change their airforce tactics
when fighting in europe , because their planes are taken down like there is no tomorrow and apparently hit by stinger missiles ,because the russian military told they took down ukraine air defenses and had complete "air superiority.". now is clear it was all a lie . they are losing planes that generally were designed to evade/jam missiles as it is su-34 and su-30sm..
hopefully by this time the russian army realize they need major change of tactics and need significantly more drones. i don't think the russian army will have advanced much if the invasion was in today israel.. their Russian soldiers will have been obliterated by attack drones and kamikazi drones.. and the israel airforce teach russia in syria ,how hit with precision the intended target right next to russian base and run away evading russian best air defenses..
im afraid that if russian airforce continue losing 3-5 planes per day ,they will be without an airforce in just 2 months of combat. and probably give up in just 2 weeks once their numbers of planes loses are in the 50s. This is very bad for russia image in the world.. all western media is making fun of ukranians are pushing back the russian army and causing so much damages to their airforce and convoys.
What im now thinking is that any victory of russia in ukraine will end being a disastrous one , with too much loses in expensive planes and equipment and too many russians killed. 500 soldiers in 1 week.. at this rate , in one year , russia will lose more than 25,000 soldiers..
and in 3 years 75,000. if it last as much as the afghan war..in 10 years, then 250,000 deaths.