Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5

UAE seems in favor if increasing production output :

https://twitter.com/UAEEmbassyUS/status/1501598857439981573

If Saudi is on the same train as them, seems Russia will need to wrap things up quickly as their oil may take hit.

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/32353

Heavy strikes on nazis with zala drones

Su34 , drones, everything is working mariupol at the moment, is hardcore

The bear is angry...

teh_beard wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:
Weren't you pouting a week ago with the news of Kadyrov's forces joining too? The sky is falling...I get it.  

Wut?

I`m all for chechens joining the fight were its hardest.
They our gurkhas - savage, have a fearsome blown-out reputation, disposable.
They more they kill and more of them dies in the process the better.

He may have mistaken you with Python.

As well, I agree with others saying the conscript thing isn't really important. Soldiers are soldiers honestly and its their duty regardless. But I am guessing they want more trained professionals than newly conscripted to fight. But, experience is experience.

That said, its being investigated so I imagine some commanders are going to get sacked over the decision to send some conscripts.

Stealthflanker wrote:UAE seems in favor if increasing production output :

https://twitter.com/UAEEmbassyUS/status/1501598857439981573

If Saudi is on the same train as them, seems Russia will need to wrap things up quickly as their oil may take hit.

Both sides also admitted they cannot sustain a large output enough to do much damage against the inflation spikes.

Russias dealings are long term with China and India already, these prices mostly affect western countries most and price is so high right now, there isn't much that can be done.

kvs wrote:Russia does not depend on oil exports.   This is a moronic trope spread by the delusional morons in NATzO.

Russia's timeline is dictated by actual problems such as the humanitarian crisis emerging in former Ukraine.   It cannot
let the terrorists of the NATzO puppet regime to set the schedule.   So taking out nests in Kharkov, Mariupol, and
other cities is now a priority.   Opec can pump its last barrel of oil for all Russia cares.

Stealth Flanker just needs to read through the economic thread to get the info.

Stealthflanker wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
Indonesia is now saying it won't follow sanctions either. After cancelling the Su-35 purchases earlier

We dont have anything to sanction Russia with.

Palm oil, bananas and 70's cheezy horror movies.

Taking over Kiev has taken way too long.

Other than that there was an obvious Russian miscalculation as to Ukrainian military leadership resolve and their unwillingness to lay down arms, with high profile defections. It did not happen nor materialized in any shape or form in over a week of conflict.

In that regard props to the Ukranian regime, CIA and MI6 for cleaning house and eating SVR's lunch on this one. You gonna tell me you couldn't get a couple consequential assets high up in the Ukranian military to flip, staying in the shadows for this very moment - you had over 8 years to prepare for this? The fvck has the SVR being doing? If I'm Putin, I'm cleaning house at the FSB after this op is done.

Obviously the Ukranians came to the quick conclusion, along with their NATO advisers that Russia's rules of engagement left big fat holes in civilian, urban areas to be exploited. As such it is not hard to figure out why #1: "hopless desperation" defections have not come sooner and #2: why the Ukranian army is still, despite limping, alive.

No other choice for Russia than to see this through till the end, no matter what the other side throws at you cause all they need is for Russia to balk and agree to a half-assed compromise that keeps those dogs in power in some shape or form for them to be back at it. You don't do this to keep the same regime in charge, no matter what propaganda koolaid you drink tells you (from whichever mouth it comes from).

No credible threat to the physical wellbeing of the top leadership of Ukraine has been made, and that is unfortunately a shame, and a misstep in Russia's threat posture and messaging, on top of the fact that the propaganda war was lost since Day 0. You can't reason with mad dogs, you can't force them to love you. The only thing you can do is either take them out cold to send a message, or put the fear of god in them that they'll be taken out. Seems to me top Ukranian leadership is comfy in their belief that they have a way out, and NATO (U.S/UK/Polish) protection. Even if they're holed up in a third country (Poland, Moldova, Romania or what have you).... the SVR should be hunting them. You can keep Zelensky alive as a trophy piece, but everyone else should have had a massive target on their back since Day 0, with a few of them already being dead sending the obvious fucking massive message: "no one can't protect you, we're coming for you and it's only a matter of time..". Capitulate or else....

Stealthflanker wrote:UAE seems in favor if increasing production output :

https://twitter.com/UAEEmbassyUS/status/1501598857439981573

If Saudi is on the same train as them, seems Russia will need to wrap things up quickly as their oil may take hit.

kvs has discredited this myth for many years (since 2016; so at least 6 years now). His claims were later vindicated:

Oil and gas rents is 8 or so % of GDP. Oil and gas overall industry is roughly 13% or so because gas is used for general energy and other types of gas and process for potash.

Oil, for plastics and ceramics along with petrol, construction materials and what not. Expensive oil is bad for local market too since it makes those other products expensive. Russia doesn't subsidize the market like it used to.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1501551676360122368

I somehow don't think anyone who joins up will get that kind of money. My guess is, they expect anyone they send to die and anyone who does flee and survive won't see a dime.

miketheterrible wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1501551676360122368

I somehow don't think anyone who joins up will get that kind of money.  My guess is, they expect anyone they send to die and anyone who does flee and survive won't see a dime.

You have to survive to even collect ...literally the saying "Your mouth is writing a check your ass can't cash!" Did I forget to mention these mercenaries are f*cking idiots that carry functioning smart phones that can easily be tracked, with their locations that can just as easily be triangulated!!!

BTW if they do survive they should expect to hear "Oh did we mean $60,000 USD? We really meant to say 60,000 Ukrainian hernia...err Hryvnia!"

Kadyrov about McDonalds and Coca-Cola leaving Russia.

ATLASCUB wrote:Taking over Kiev has taken way too long.

People who don't know the history, will eventually learn it's results on own skin.

Kiev today is a 2.8 mln giant aglomeration, divided by the huge by any standards Dnepr, and tons of smaller rivers, canals, lakes etc.

What makes it a PERFECT match to the Berlin in 1945.
Size is about same 2.8 mln, the difference is that you can't match the Sprewa in Berlin, that runs in settled canals via the city, in opposite to Dnepr.

Been there, saw both.

The direct Berlin operation, took functionally 3 weeks, with use of 2.3 mln of the Soviet&Polish soldiers involved, resulting almost 100k dead&300k wounded.
How many Berlin population died, is actually unknow till now, but the numbers varies around 120-200k.

So you are saying that Russkies are too slow now, and should speed up, yeah?

magnumcromagnon wrote:

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1501551676360122368

There is a Youtube video that came out years ago titled "All wars are bankers wars" well worth a search for.

Max Keiser did a video last week, pointing out that without fiat currency, war would be difficult to wage, because you couldn't pay the soldiers to fight, or equip them. That's why Nixon "closed the gold window" so the US could print unlimited USD to fund the Vietnam war.

On TV they make it sound like concerned citizens around the world are taking up arms to fight in a war, but in reality they want the money. That's what fueled ISIS, they got more pay than the Syrian army soldiers.

The US uses it's ability to conjure USD out of thin air to pay/bribe people to fight when common sense would otherwise prevent them from doing so. Hence the Pentagon's $17trillion unaccounted for spending, you can bet some of it went to fund wars in places they shouldn't be.

BTW there is a good article around called who controls the military industrial complex, and it boils down to the same group of financial institutions having the major share holdings.
A bit of a tangled web.  https://educationcenter2000.com/Articles_Folder/Who_Owns_and_Controls_Military_Industrial_Complex.htm