Have you ever seen the size of the RPG warhead or even the launcher? Where is the real estate to fit beam riding sensors?
The beam riding sensors on the back end of Russian missiles are actually rather small and are simply an optical port like a pinhole camera lens like on a cell phone.
To be honest such an arrangement would be overkill and would complicate the design rather more than needed to achieve the required effect.
A simple gyrostabilisation system, which are widely used on even very small drones these days and would fit on your thumbnail and cost a couple of dollars could be used to control nose fins to stop the missile veering off course due to sidewinds, and a decent laser range finder and ballistics computer as fitted into modern rifle scopes with the ballistics of the different rockets loaded in would make the hit probability for modern rockets rather better without making it a lot more expensive.
The RPG-32 is a good example of upgraded optics moving forward.
That's why bean riding is reserved for missiles like Kornet.
The Bulat is half the size of Kornet, and the new version of Metis-M2 is supposed to drop the wire guidance and adopte beam riding guidance.... it means the missiles can fly faster and further... and it is cheaper.
Yeah right. Thousands of Russian soldiers dead. An Islamic jihadi strongman still calling the shots in Chechnya and we are told Russia won.
Soldiers on both sides are Russian soldiers, civil wars are always bloody.
The results speak for themselves however, they have peace and law and order in the region now...
The question is, what are the Russians' plans towards Kharkiv and Odessa? These are much larger cities than Mariupol
Suspect it depends on what happens... if the nazis run away, good, if they dig in then the cancer needs to be burned out.
I slightly disagree with that. If Poland will use it's air force and long range armament from Polish territory, there won't be some local retaliation from Russia. And this time it will be American style destruction.
If Poland are stupid enough to want to dip their toe in this water then they should expect to lose that toe in the very best situation and the whole leg most likely... to which daddy US and HATO leader will say... we told you not to test that water... it has alligators...
You were lucky to just lose a leg...
The problem is we don't know their plans.
Don't you think us not knowing is a good thing, because Nazis can read and this is a public forum and those scum might decide to read what we speculate to get an idea of what is coming... do you want to help them?
Disarming Ukraine and a neutral Ukraine are nonsense.
It is what Russia wants... last time the west ignored Russias security concerns the Ukraine got invaded... if HATO wants to enter Ukraine after this is over, then do you think they will be as nice as they have this time... do you think their attacks will be limited to the boundaries of the Ukraine?
This is not a game.
So if Russian actually retaliate by hitting their airbases, there might be no Article-5 to pull.
Poland is a soverign country and can get involved if they wish, but article 5 becomes null and void if you start something yourself... sending weapons to the Ukrainians is already borderline act of war shit that you can bet the west wouldn't put up with if Russia was doing it.
For all these years a common trope that does the round of this forum is that domestic Russian weapons are magically superior to western analogs and it's only the export variants that are of poor quality.
Not at all.
Western weapons are white elephants designed for the show room and not the war room, they are shiny and enormously expensive and have to be used sparingly because they can't afford to make too many of them because even though the west prints its own money they are very very expensive.
1. There are several types of precision-guided weapons that are neither in service with the VKS nor known to be in development for it. These include precision-guided missiles and bombs that are “network-enabled” and/or equipped with tri-mode seekers for enhanced tactical flexibility.
Fitting three different types of sensors to a weapon makes it much more expensive... and what is this network supposed to do.
It couldn't find IEDs in the Middle East till they exploded, a command guided Ataka missile can be fired from about 8km away in the current model to hit a vehicle sized target with a better level of accuracy than the 2.5km range Javelin with its magic IIR seeker that does not always lock properly and sometimes seems to target parts of a vehicle that are not soft and squishy and don't result in a kill... but they earn the company that make them an eye watering amount of money... which is their primary concern.
2. The integration of the SVP-24 specialized computing subsystem on many Su-24Ms has enabled them to employ unguided bombs with greater precision than before; however, given that unguided bombs are inherently less precise, the Su-24M’s inability to use modern, night and adverse weather capable precision-guided weapons – especially stand-off weapons – remains a huge limitation.
Good point... but not the one you just made... the nav attack bombing system upgrade to the Su-24M allows the aircraft to achieve levels of precision the west gets with guided weapons, but from safe altitudes for MANPADS and ground fire using dumb iron bombs
For the inherently less precise... really... so snipers in the west must be shit because they use inherently inaccurate unguided bullets... what a bunch of useless
they must be.
The Su-24M is able to carry and use a wide variety of TV and IIR and laser guided air to ground rockets missiles and bombs, but as its onboard systems allow it comparable accuracy with cheap dumb bombs why would they waste money and time with guided weapons in that situation.
It is not that it can't use guided weapons, it just costs more to do so, with the targets still being destroyed so only an American MIC company would want more expensive guided weapons to be used.
3. The Su-25SM, it is equipped with a Klen-PS laser rangefinder/designator system, but lacks both a radar and an electro-optical (EO) targeting system, and the only guided weapons it is able to employ are several types of dated laser-guided missiles.
Again, all your time spent on this forum has clearly been wasted, the Su-25SM3 has built in EO targeting systems and both it and its predecessor the Su-25SM can carry a full range of TV and IR and laser guided bombs and rockets.
The fact that most of its targets are direct fire battlefield targets that need to be removed with HE power which is normally a 250kg bomb or a large calibre rocket explains why you don't understand the aircraft and how it operates.
If you want to use standoff weapons then why bother with armour protection.... why is the A-10 armoured?
Why does it have a gun because to use it it would need to close within MANPADS range and they would quickly take out an A-10... when the US attacked Kosovo and fought the Serbs they didn't even bother with helicopters and ground forces... they just murdered from the sky... often the people they claimed they were there to help...
This does not change the fact that Ukraine will not be neutral even if it signs the agreement. The West will break them very quickly by introducing troops, and Russia will do nothing. That is why neutral Ukraine is nonsense. NATO was also never to move eastwards again.
If HATO move in to Ukraine again they represent the same threat they did when Putin decided to attack in the first place... which was bioweapons labs, nukes, and more nazis.
If Russia have to attack again I suspect different tactics will be used... and HATO forces will run away to leave the Ukrainians to deal with things again... will they put up with that... don't know... don't care...
I am sure Putin will give them clear warnings this time around that what they are doing is a red line, and I am sure there will be more respect from HATO because this time around they will be seen as the core problem and not some nazis in orc clothing.
The Nakidka was never adopted.
During their own tests the Javelins failed to lock on to standard Soviet tanks because of a lack of significant IR signature.... it looked like the set the target tank on fire to get the missile to lock... money well spent there... no wonder the US and HATO are giving them away...
As for police forces, one thing I have noticed in the ex Soviet countries I have been to they all have a high number of police forces, I put this down to most have a president who is corrupt and needs a large police force to maintain public order and it's also a hark back to the Soviet era where they had high police numbers.
It was also partly a public presence with less cops sitting on their arses at desks pushing around paper and instead actually patrolling the places they are supposed to be protecting and monitoring.
UK cops will be screen watchers soon with all the cameras they have around the place... no need for being able to run fast or over power a criminal, their skills will be fast forwarding hours of video footage... if it didn't happen on camera then it didn't happen I guess.
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When it got out of control last time Garry threatened a 1 day ban for this rule break.
And two posts later in post 1005, you yourself post a conversation....
The issue is that they have been played THREE times by the anglos in the last century, yet they don't seem to learn that they cannot trust them. Something very serious will need to happen, for them to crawl out of US arse anytime soon
The west is made up of countries that have all fought each other in brutal wars and done terrible things to each others prisoners... Japan and Germany and France and the UK and US and Australia and New Zealand and so many other European countries that now act together as allies because you don't get progress being at each others throats and killing each other all the time, but somehow this cooperation and trade solution does not apply to Russia... it seems it can apply to any former Soviet republic, but not Russia, because Russia is a rival to the power of the US.
The real difference is taht Russia is not trying to take control of international organisations like the US does... sounds like a much better ally and partner going forward.
With the result of NATO breaking up I would pay with my own money if anyone even if its fucking North Korea would push for a coup de 'etat in Mexico and create a Anti-American sentiment of eager Mexicans to get war on the US. All that just so you fuckers start fearing war and death and treat it as the rest of the world as something bad!
That is them in a nutshell... no respect for any other country and war is a game played away and without consequence because our media are not interested in the gory truth... western media is infomercials.
Sure, I think the Russians believed the Ukrainian government would fold and flee at first - which didn't happen. That miscalculation has caused them trouble in that the large force near Kyiv is completely useless right now because the decisive battles that need to be won are in the east.
I disagree... if they thought the south and east would fold there would be no need for the forces near Kiev.
The Orc army is partially in the Donbass and Lugansk regions... they knew they were not going to just all surrender on day one... most know they will either be killed or face life in prison for their crimes and have not reason to survive this conflict.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t8766-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-8 
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