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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:32 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Most of the images being released by Ukrainian surrogate accounts shows Ukranian military armed with local RPGs and not NLAWS or Javelin.

    Maybe local RPGs proved to be much more credible than the over hyped western ATGMs.

    For western governments the purported use of NLAWs and Javelin is just a sales pitch to Asian and African countries.

    Maybe Russia should release a video to show how ineffective western ATGMs have been.

    The Javelin has not been too highly regarded by the DNR. They called it more of a propaganda weapon.

    There was another AT system that was looked upon as more of an RPG-7 just with some tacticool gimmicks

    Not sure about the N-LAW, the DNR have captured quite a number of them.

    As I heard one of the problems was that the Western-supplied weapons were not even getting to the front-line troops in sizeable quantities.

    The Panzerfaust 3 is very similar to RPG-7 and would operate the same.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:14 pm

    Regarding the issue in Kharabak, apparently Iran threatened Azerbaijan as well just after the event that happened. While Azeries left the area as per Russians demands, if Azerbaijan does something, it is assumed that Iran and Armenia will act against them so Russia has significant backup in the area.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:24 pm

    Last time, Iran was pretty quite, but now it looks like Iran isnt gonna tolerate azari nonsense anymore.

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    Post  par far Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:48 pm

    "“In the video, a representative of the Ukrainian army executes a person in the most cruel way, accusing the person of having links with Russia (!). At the end of the video, the killer says "Glory to Ukraine, death to enemies".”


    Hopefully Ukraine is cleaned out soon.

    Waring the video is very graphic.


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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:51 pm

    The Novichoke rubbish has been trotted out again.

    Wall Street Journal: two of the Ukr negotiation team have been "poisoned" and Abramovich has been as well.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:09 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Wall Street Journal: two of the Ukr negotiation team have been "poisoned" and Abramovich has been as well.



    in McDonalds :d

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:15 pm

    It is getting boring, agree?
    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:23 pm

    kvs wrote:The Novichoke rubbish has been trotted out again.  

    Wall Street Journal: two of the Ukr negotiation team have been "poisoned" and Abramovich has been as well.


    Ah Novichok, so deadly that most who are poisoned by it recover remarkably well. Its an aerosol thats also a gel. Yeah, I don't believe in novichok.

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    Post  Hole Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:26 pm

    I read an article a while ago, one of the developers of the real stuff ("Novichok" was a westernised term) declared that it was so deadly they had to enlarge the testing area to protect surrounding areas. No it can´t even kill one person, even when it is applied directly to his skin or swallowed. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:41 pm

    DNR troops trophied a burnt out Ukrainian rifle UAR-10 (AR-10 licensed copy) in Marinka, and discovered that the bullets have sawed off tips.



    Such a bullet upon hitting flesh will expand inside and cause massive trauma. They're prohibited. A zoo of war-crimes, like I said.

    Also, a Russian Artek mobile radio-station was taken out in the Sumy region. Russians aren't protecting their rear lines enough
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    Post  franco Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:50 pm

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    The remaining for Ukrainian groups ind units defending Mariupol (about 4,000 of them) are currently trying to form a strong strike fighting group that would try to break through the ring and leave the city.

    14,500>7,000>4,000

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:52 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Wall Street Journal: two of the Ukr negotiation team have been "poisoned" and Abramovich has been as well.



    in McDonalds :d

    But they were in in Poland, with no actual "Russians" (that is, reps from Russia) present, right?

    At this stage, I wouldn't be surprised if the entire "Novichok" story has been Ukrainian hybrid warfare all along. Those guys shy away from nothing.

    franco wrote:Spriter
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    The remaining for Ukrainian groups ind units defending Mariupol (about 4,000 of them) are currently trying to form a strong strike fighting group that would try to break through the ring and leave the city.

    14,500>7,000>4,000

    That's assuming that the original numbers were correct. But if so, then some 10k Ukrainian servicemen perished right there, and that would make the overall figures even wilder than the official Russian estimates, given that similarly fierce fighting has been going on elsewhere, especially in the Donbass, and many dozens of rear attacks have left thousands dead.

    We're then looking at 30,000 or more UA military dead, vs some 3000 RU/LDNR, so my old 1:10 thing still stands, eh.

    Also, now we've seen many dozens of Ukrainian war crimes in only a week, about the same number of war crimes they committed every 6 months or so over the past 8 years. Not only does the ramping up of it tell of desperation, it sheds a light on just exactly what kind of people we're dealing with here.

    The entire bandera cult and everything literally revolves around war crimes. UON-UPA and onwards, that's been their shtick all along. And since 2014, they've been naming streets, squares, sports arenas etc after these self-professed and proud war criminals, they've put up statues and they've made national holidays out of them.

    My granny in law who was caught up in WW2 in Ukraine said she feared the fanatical Bandera-Ukrainians more than the Nazis themselves. And indeed, you'll find lots of witness accounts from extermination camps in Poland (Sobibor etc) where Ukrainians ran the show and were far more sadistic to local prisoners (Poles, Jews, Soviet POWs, "not-Ukrainian enough" Ukrainians etc) than the Germans who had been sent there.


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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:54 pm

    franco wrote:Spriter
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    The remaining for Ukrainian groups ind units defending Mariupol (about 4,000 of them) are currently trying to form a strong strike fighting group that would try to break through the ring and leave the city.

    14,500>7,000>4,000

    A Mi-8 sent to evacuate their commanders was shot down on approach to Mariupol

    What did they think was going to happen I wonder?

    They're desperate not to be taken captive and exposed.

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    Post  medo Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:59 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Ramzan is a new Jesus Crist. We have a proof. Write a new Bible... Very Happy

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:02 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    A Mi-8 sent to evacuate their commanders was shot down on approach to Mariupol

    What did they think was going to happen I wonder?

    They're desperate not to be taken captive and exposed.

    only pity that without commanders

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