Russian special military operation in Ukraine #10

Hole wrote:
Ukraine is still to big. But OK. Keep it as a reservation for Nazi thugs and shooting range.

Podlodka77 wrote:

Hole wrote:
Ukraine is still to big. But OK. Keep it as a reservation for Nazi thugs and shooting range.

Yes, but it's gangbanged in that picture from the Novorussia from the south, from the north of Belarus and we all know about EAST.  

RTN wrote:Ukrainian artillery is causing a lot of damages to Russian tank, IFV formation.

The Russian have been nominally practicing combined arms warfare for decades. That is a nice idea, but if the battalions, companies, and platoons don't actually emphasize and spend their training rubles on it, you end up with what we're seeing in Ukraine: tanks advancing before infantry, tanks and IFVs bunching up like sheep, top cover technology (helicopters, drones, aircraft) not being employed , and secure communications between units not present.

Artillery killed huge numbers of tanks in WW2.  Remember that each howitzer can land numerous shells onto a point simultaneously using changes in propellant amounts and angle of the barrel.  So when you have a battery or more laying it down on anything…yeah.

Hole wrote:
 Really? How could such a dumbass become CEO?

Mir wrote:

Maybe someone in Israel should tell her about Gaza and the Palestinians - oh and the Syrians -oh and the Iranians - oh and the Lebanese?

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/53457

Boris Johnson and Zelensky stroll through Kiev,

The BBC writes that the defeat of Russia is one for the ages,

Boris Johnson believes himself to be a real modern Churchill, and why not? We are not in Kiev, but he is

At least these Johnsons and Von Der Leyens are more patriotic to their states then Peskov or Sobchaks

Arkanghelsk wrote:Zelensky doesn't care about losing some villages and towns, he's keeping us without moving for 46 days now and takes more territory

He will stage false flags and be lauded as a hero

But yes you are correct, they cannot get into Mariupol, we might take it finally in about 3 weeks

Peskov is playing a role? What role is that? Breaking the morale of the army by disclosing "huge losses"?

That's some 10d chess

RTN wrote:Ukrainian artillery is causing a lot of damages to Russian tank, IFV formation.

The Russian have been nominally practicing combined arms warfare for decades. That is a nice idea, but if the battalions, companies, and platoons don't actually emphasize and spend their training rubles on it, you end up with what we're seeing in Ukraine: tanks advancing before infantry, tanks and IFVs bunching up like sheep, top cover technology (helicopters, drones, aircraft) not being employed , and secure communications between units not present.

Artillery killed huge numbers of tanks in WW2.  Remember that each howitzer can land numerous shells onto a point simultaneously using changes in propellant amounts and angle of the barrel.  So when you have a battery or more laying it down on anything…yeah.

Serberus wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Of course they will take Kharkov. They have it surrounded. They are waiting till there are enough forces to put the squeeze further.

If there were more troops They would have done both at same time but they didn't use a ton for this op. They are still relying on meeting up with DNR and LPR forces in the middle.

I don’t think Kharkov is fully surrounded, at least not according to any of the maps I have seen even the most enthusiastic pro Russian ones, and I don’t think Russians themselves  have ever made the claim either.
But after the Donbas front is hopefully crushed or even during, it should be the priority target imo and doesn’t matter if it’s surrounded yet anyway, it appears as you said troops are building up so I would expect an attack to either coincide or just after Donbas . Odessa I think should be left until last, after Banderistan troops are demoralised and have lost the eastern front at least, its a huge city with almost a million people, heavily fortified , mined and defended by Nazi battalions, who would undoubtedly use the civilians as they did in Mariupol or even worse considering what they did during the protests years ago.

d_taddei2 wrote:
What u dont realise is that zelensky only has media lies, false flags, human shields, neo Nazis and untrained civilians left. That won't win a war.

While Russia is winning the war on the ground, beating sanctions, and still has all it's military infrastructure intact, firing cruise missiles whenever it feels like it, uncovered USA funded bio labs, got foreign agents/SF trapped, and stopped a planned Ukrainian invasion into the Donbass and Crimea which has averted a mass genocide of Russian speakers. Not bad I would say.

Erk wrote:

Sujoy wrote:U.K will send Mastiff armoured vehicles to Ukraine. Russian Kornet will destroy every last one of these. This is precisely why NATO doesn't want to supply western tanks, IFVs to Ukraine because they know how they will end up.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-uk-sending-armoured-vehicles-for-first-time-as-zelenskyy-demands-firm-response-to-railway-blast-12585798

I think it's more like NATO wants countries to send Ukraine their old gear, so they need to replace it with expensive NATO gear.
NATO is a sales force for the US military industrial complex.

ALAMO wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:
What u dont realise is that zelensky only has media lies, false flags, human shields, neo Nazis and untrained civilians left. That won't win a war.

While Russia is winning the war on the ground, beating sanctions, and still has all it's military infrastructure intact, firing cruise missiles whenever it feels like it, uncovered USA funded bio labs, got foreign agents/SF trapped, and stopped a planned Ukrainian invasion into the Donbass and Crimea which has averted a mass genocide of Russian speakers. Not bad I would say.

Only retaking of the water supply for Crimea is a strategic victory that will affect the daily life of 2.5mln people. Not to forget about giant economic importance, bringing back the whole agrarian industry of fertile land. Next year we will have a Crimean rice production, to begin with.