Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

billybatts91 wrote:Russia looking incompetent with this ship sinking possibly? WTF is going on?

This is war.

What, you think the Ukies are idiots who can't use the Soviet-legacy stuff still in their possession? Or somehow cannot tactically apply any new equipment/weapons?

Loss of naval vessels due to enemy action was always a possibility. Lets find out what actually happened before yabbering about "incompetence"....

Stealthflanker wrote:It's a screenshot of a vid here.



and yeah.. Hope this time whoever up there finally got their act together.  It can be anything like storm  or maybe some mines but still a morale boost for Ukraine.

This vid is also fake, just like the two earlier ones.

It's from 2019 and that Tanzanian tanker that caught fire off Krasnodar.

See here:

https://youtu.be/mOHDISvZHC0

About 18 seconds in. They just flipped the footage horizontally and added a fake NV filter.

flamming_python wrote:

Oh but it does.

Now there will be another month of "Russky Korabl idi naxuj!" instead of surrendering like a sensible person would

For Ukrainian coastal defense troops - yes. But Ukrainian soldiers in cauldrons I don't think it will be enough to motivate them. It's not like Moskva was floating in Dnieper river.

Amazing catch. That's why the sea looked so calm. Hope it doesn't look too bad in reality and no loss of manpower.

We will see Moskva being trawled back to the port and it will be clear what damage it sustained. It could as well be a mine. I wouldn't trust a thing from Ukrainian side yet.

At this stage:

- Could be a mine
- Could be Ukrainian Neptune
- Could be UAV
- Could be accident
- Could be an own kill (missile misfire)

We will know better tomorrow.

If the 40 year old veteran cruiser is indeed badly damage, then might as well scrap it.
Too bad, all it had to do is to serve another couple more years (until the Adm. Nakhimov rejoins the fleet) and she would be retired and become scrap metal.

At the moment, it is the crew that matters.

The rest is secondary.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:This vid is also fake, just like the two earlier ones.

It's from 2019 and that Tanzanian tanker that caught fire off Krasnodar.

See here:

https://youtu.be/mOHDISvZHC0

About 18 seconds in. They just flipped the footage horizontally and added a fake NV filter.

Awesome work Dr S

Regardless of the true situation with Moskva, this nicely displays the true nature of the Ukie propaganda machine - its just an old man behind a curtain employing cheap fakes to the unsuspecting rubes who are pre-conditioned to be sheep and believe whatever the feck they are told to believe....  

flamming_python wrote:

Regular wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Oh but it does.

Now there will be another month of "Russky Korabl idi naxuj!" instead of surrendering like a sensible person would

For Ukrainian coastal defense troops - yes. But Ukrainian soldiers in cauldrons I don't think it will be enough to motivate them. It's not like Moskva was floating in Dnieper river.

Na all Ukraine will be dancing on the streets and NATO media will spin is as 'the defiance of the Ukrainian people against Russian tyranny' and so on. The Ukrainian troops in cauldrons are on amphetamines and other drugs, they don't need an excuse to celebrate.

And honestly it's hard to disagree. It's a brilliant victory of the underdog on several levels and just what the regime needs right now.

You are too emotional. All these false hopes that the Ukrainians are getting will make their defeat harder to swallow.
They will be crying harder when they eventually capitulate.

Kuznetsov - taken out by crane

Gremyaschiy - taken out by fire

Moskva - taken out by 404 or sabotage or ineptitude

This sums up the whole story

What depressing news

Talking about trust - Ukrainians claimed that they hit Chernobaevka airfield AGAIN. At least there are some videos from locals.

Posted by this idiot

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1514369555140861954

flamming_python wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
This vid is also fake, just like the two earlier ones.

It's from 2019 and that Tanzanian tanker that caught fire off Krasnodar.

See here:

https://youtu.be/mOHDISvZHC0

About 18 seconds in. They just flipped the footage horizontally and added a fake NV filter.

Do wonder what's up with this story

In the morning they were announcing Neptun strikes against the Moskva with a fake photo

Now this fake video

Yet it seems that TASS, RT have quoted the MoD as saying that something blew up and the crew was evacuated

Meanwhile there is no statement on the MoD site as yet

Bro, I will kill you. Yes I'm joking but don't share those Banderistan video links no more. Moscow cruiser must survive or I am going to fucking Banderistan. I'm very very very angry.

yeah the vid apparently edited version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvagqQePyp4&t=1s

Bro it's past the time of being angry

How can anyone accuse flaming of being emotional

What other reaction can you have watching this buffoonery?

Everything was downplayed , but what more can we sweep under the rug?

Its better to admit what a disaster this has been

But the epic reinforcement of incompetence only leads from one catastrophe to the next

Arkanghelsk wrote:Bro it's past the time of being angry

How can anyone accuse flaming of being emotional

What other reaction can you have watching this buffoonery?

Everything was downplayed , but what more can we sweep under the rug?

Its better to admit what a disaster this has been

But the epic reinforcement of incompetence only leads from one catastrophe to the next

Do you live in the country that has lost more than 20 million lives in WW2 ? WHAT WOULD THEY THINK OF YOU ? Russia is alone against the West, alone, and you should be proud. Nothing is over, nothing.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Bro it's past the time of being angry

How can anyone accuse flaming of being emotional

What other reaction can you have watching this buffoonery?

Everything was downplayed , but what more can we sweep under the rug?

Its better to admit what a disaster this has been

But the epic reinforcement of incompetence only leads from one catastrophe to the next

Chill.

This is war. Losses are inevitable.

What do you expect? You want Ukraine to be fully liberated without a single Russian soldier getting hurt? or tank destroyed? or aircraft shot down? or ship damaged?

Grow up and learn to take losses without blaming this or that.

Did you guys see this video of a TB-2 drone controller vehicle yet?
https://twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1513205410890665985

They think as I do and as flaming does

Go on the Runet and read

About belgorod, about Kiev, about Moskva

Read what the people are saying

It's a unanimous anger and disdain for this leadership

Apparently the VSU has hit Chernobaevka



And yes very few people believe any of this was conducted in a right way

The people unanimously support the war and the troops

But are absolutely puzzled to what we see being carried out by this inept leadership

Peskovs view is spreading

flamming_python wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
This vid is also fake, just like the two earlier ones.

It's from 2019 and that Tanzanian tanker that caught fire off Krasnodar.

See here:

https://youtu.be/mOHDISvZHC0

About 18 seconds in. They just flipped the footage horizontally and added a fake NV filter.

Do wonder what's up with this story

In the morning they were announcing Neptun strikes against the Moskva with a fake photo

Now this fake video

Yet it seems that TASS, RT have quoted the MoD as saying that something blew up and the crew was evacuated

Meanwhile there is no statement on the MoD site as yet

Bro, I will kill you. Yes I'm joking but don't share those Banderistan video links no more. Moscow cruiser must survive or I am going to fucking Banderistan. I'm very very very angry.

Well then go

Because I'm tired. I'm just tired. And I haven't even fought yet. It's just exhausting watching this all play out. And for the men on the frontline I feel sad. Really on both sides even. Because of this Hollywood shitshow, the war will just drag on.

I'll wait for mobilization. At this rate NATO will come in confident its facing a paper tiger, and we'll have a real mess to contend with.

Bro I feel the same exact way, tired of this from just watching

I feel bad for the men in the front also

We need to do something about this leadership, but I doubt we can

It's going to get us killed

NATO is not going to act the way we have disgracefully made assholes of ourselves

NATO is gonna hit us hard while Putin and co. Explain why we lost Moscow, to not cause civilian casualties

It's a big shitshow , I have never seen anything like this

It outdoes the 90s , buran, all that shit

If they declare a mobilization, it's gonna be fucked, lot of us are In jeopardy

I'm seeing the amount of guys dead in mariupol, it's shocking

ALAMO wrote:Considering that new ammo for RPG can penetrate up to 700 mm (Russian testing, not NATO), it can penetrate two of them front to rear in a line

Seems like it was designed to resist 20mm rounds. So probably even the 30mm gun on the BTR-82A can penetrate a Leopard 1.

There are 2 types of men:

- The real ones
- The weaklings

You will recognize the difference during war time.