Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

Krepost wrote:There are 2 types of men:

- The real ones
- The weaklings

You will recognize the difference during war time.

It's very easy to say this on chat

Airborne wolf has a military who backed him up and bombed the enemy wherever it was

Our airforce doesn't cover our men, our men are savaged in ways that you don't imagine

Would NATO let this happen? **** no

And the more you rationalize it the more I see all of you as a bunch of commissar punks who just want to send Russians to die

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Apparently the VSU has hit Chernobaevka

This is to be expected tho as They're so close to Kherson. The thing now is how Russians will defend it. Fall of Kherson and we will see even bigger Bucha shitshow.

flamming_python wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Bro it's past the time of being angry

How can anyone accuse flaming of being emotional

What other reaction can you have watching this buffoonery?

Everything was downplayed , but what more can we sweep under the rug?

Its better to admit what a disaster this has been

But the epic reinforcement of incompetence only leads from one catastrophe to the next

Do you live in the country that has lost more than 20 million lives in WW2 ? WHAT WOULD THEY THINK OF YOU ? Russia is alone against the West, alone, and you should be proud. Nothing is over, nothing.

Don't worry dude, we know it's not over. It's not about victory for the sake of victory, pride and so on. It's about a clique of war-criminals in Kiev and NATO trying to use the opportunity to destroy us - so the war will be fought, there is no backing down.

I'm just simply amazed at everything though. Everything about this operation. Right from how it started, even the bullshit Putin used to justify it

Putin and his people have done nothing his whole reign but miscalculate on the Ukraine and that's continuing now.

It's beyond miscalculation, it's criminality

We know it's a war of destruction, since before 2014

And it's being fought like some kind of joke

They themselves pumped Russia with this line, that the west was coming for us

So why do they then act like it's some picnic?

It's sheer criminality

Ladies and Gentlemen,

You are now witnessing what is commonly known in medical terms as "Panic attack", or "Panic disorder" or "Hysteric reaction" displayed by a fellow forum member.

For his own well being, we should all stop posting on this thread until he calms down.

Thank you for understanding.

flamming_python wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:
We need to do something about this leadership, but I doubt we can

It's going to get us killed

Exactly.
It's a slow-motion train-wreck.

Yeah I can accept that it's war and we suffer casualties. But the flagship of the BSF? Goddd-daaamn

And we can't do anything about the leadership. It's wartime. It's just frustrating.

Minimizing civilian casualties is the right move and increasing them won't change anything. But we really should be doing a better job at self-defense, and taking out whatever missile systems the Ukrainians have. Because they're still firing Tochkas to this day. Do they have underground tunnels for them?

**** if I know , and how can you increase self defense without being proactive?

But this is what you get

The last straw will be Donetsk offensive

If the leadership drops this one, it's basically over for the war in Ukraine

And what happens in Russia after that, will be consequential for the whole world

Assholes better stop treating this like a joke

They have enough passes with the inept shit we have seen thus far

Lose the donetsk offensive, and that's it

I have no idea what Russia is doing at this point.

I propose a massive Kaliber strike on Kiev and major infrastructures housing the Nazi Ukro leadership as punishment for the loss of Moskva.

zorobabel wrote:I have no idea what Russia is doing at this point.

Pulling forces before the offensive in the east?

Or I am missing something?

flamming_python wrote:
There won't a fall of Kherson. They don't have the reserves for any kind of offensive anywhere

But these missile strikes are a bummer.

That's a good to hear. Maybe Russia should move some more Buk's and maybe even S-300/400's as what they did In Lugansk recently. That can provide more decent protection against Tochkas.

Krepost wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen,

You are now witnessing what is commonly known in medical terms as "Panic attack", or "Panic disorder" or "Hysteric reaction" displayed by a fellow forum member.

For his own well being, we should all stop posting on this thread until he calms down.

Thank you for understanding.

As I can see two members.

I am unsure how, honestly, people expected no losses?

Anyway, the pics and video provided by moskva were fake. We need to wait to see what is actually happening.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/42201?single

Regular wrote:Amazing catch. That's why the sea looked so calm. Hope it doesn't look too bad in reality and no loss of manpower.

We will see Moskva being trawled back to the port and it will be clear what damage it sustained. It could as well be a mine. I wouldn't trust a thing from Ukrainian side yet.

Thank you. If anyone can, spread the word, because I see it being referenced everywhere and that's annoying.

Took me 5 mins to find the source, quite honestly. I just thought it looked odd with the obvious tankers/cargo ship silhouettes, and the strange split second switch from a brighter blueish gray into NV green.

So I googled "tanker on fire" and found a suspiciuously similar still image, but with the smoke moving in the wrong direction. Well, once I dug up the video that the still was from, whaddya know, image flipping. So cheap.

flamming_python wrote:

Yet it seems that TASS, RT have quoted the MoD as saying that something blew up and the crew was evacuated

Meanwhile there is no statement on the MoD site as yet

and i cannot open Russian Mod website for some reason. It gave me 403 error.

This is what RT says, take it for what you will.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553838-russia-cruiser-blast-black-sea/

Either case, the crew is safe. If the ship is gone, too bad, was a fine ship. What matters is the crew. The Russians have plenty other ships and may not be as big and power as Moskva, they are still more modern.

Anyway, the war will continue. UK didn't stop after losing some vessels during Flaklands war.  It is expected for these kind of things to happen. There isn't such a thing as guard up or down, because these events can happen regardless how prepared or not.  What matters I how one deals with it and moves on in the end.

Well, when we finally know what actually happened, assess the situation then.

It is a bit of a tradition with at least one big humiliating loss though. UA suffered quite a few already, with nearly 2000 servicemen just yesterday even.

What I don't understand is what the ship was doing there in the first place though. Just chilling? Because its main armament is useless here.

All i wish know is that she would be salvageable and got towed back.

There were claims the ship are listings but no images or anything real so far.

From Russian Reverse Side of the Medal telegram

Arkanghelsk wrote:Kuznetsov - taken out by crane

Gremyaschiy - taken out by fire

Moskva - taken out by 404 or sabotage or ineptitude

This sums up the whole story

What depressing news

Well when you look at what happened to the USS bonhomme and several other NATO vessels, its a cost. This is a 50 year old ship. But the fact it carries the name of the capital city makes it a bigger blow then it is. Also Russia cannot really replace these ships any time soon.

In June 1941, the destroyer Moskva struck a mine off Constanza, Romania (so not particularly far from the current location) and sunk after its torpedo/depth charge magazines detonated.

Cue the superstitious.

I'm curious tho on the RIA and TASS's source as i can't seem to find the statement by th RU-MOD.
I browsed Russian Mod official telegram channel and no statement, i cant access the website as it seems it blocks my IP's.

Regular wrote:Do we know what were the ships escorting Moskva? Ukrainians reported managing to hit it with two R-360 "Neptun" cruise missiles. We should see damage if it doesn't sink.

If Ukrainians did manage to somehow hit this ship then Russia doesn't deserve to have this ship anyway

Ship getting bit by some Ukrainians is a fuckin disgrace of the highest order



Still if it had to happen this is actually best possible time for it, cauldron operation is about to kick off and Russia needs a reminder about the consequences of pussyfooting

Hopefully crew is okay and this should serve as a lesson about dangers of slacking off when they get assigned to their next ships