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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16

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    Post  LMFS Sun May 15, 2022 10:32 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Natalya, who married her husband Bohdan online in April, was asked if she will see him again: "Yes I hope so. In my mind I think there is no chance but in my heart I feel that we can save them. He said that the ring around Azovstal is getting thinner and the end will be soon."

    I am going to cry, poor nazi sweethearts had a bright future cleaning Ukraine from separs until evil Russia came and turned that dream into a nightmare censored

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    Post  Isos Sun May 15, 2022 10:33 pm

    par far wrote:
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    The new president of the UAE called Russia his second home

    By this he also means that Dubai is the new 2nd home of Russian oligarchs, after London has closed for business Twisted Evil



    I think the smart ones already had their money in Dubai and Hong Kong.

    The smart ones have it at home. Dubai is as stable as the crypto world...

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    Post  Regular Sun May 15, 2022 10:45 pm

    Can anyone ID this belt buckle?

    This is from the video Zvezda posted. Now I see they blurred out the belts too, but still less censored video can be found on their TG.

    https://t.co/1nnBYi7fe8

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    Uniforms seem to be in MTP and Russians don't use them, only a few SSO units have been seen with them and Ukrainians would be the ones using them, not to mention ATGM there too, I doubt captured one would be used in the island. But this belt buckle is being claimed to be Russian BSF naval infantry by OSINT guys.

    I can't find any official belt buckles by Ukrainians or Russians so I can't check this myself. It doesn't look Soviet, Russian nor Ukrainian to me.
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    Post  Azi Sun May 15, 2022 10:54 pm

    Half of the forum wrote:How to deal with Finland?
    Guys...have you lived on the back of the moon for the last 10 years? Since 2014 Finland and Sweden are de facto members of NATO! The whole infrastructure, military command and equipment is designed for corporation between NATO and both "neutral" countries.

    The Deep State in Sweden has always been pro-NATO, even in the Cold War days. If the Cold War had gotten hot back in the days of confrontation...the Swedes would have sided with NATO. On the other hand Sweden and Finland would bring no positive effect to NATO, only the airspace of these countries is important to NATO. The areas north of Wyborg are not suitable for a landinvasion and a encirclement of St. Petersburg (from Finland and Estonia) would be answered with nuclear weapons (use of nuclear weapons if the very existence of the state is endangered).

    Keep cool guys Cool Finland will be destroyed in economic terms. Finland relies heavy on russian gas, oil, electricity, wood and other ressources! The idiots in Finland are just commiting economic suicide...so let them do this if they want so hard! You know the saying..."never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake!"

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    Post  psg Sun May 15, 2022 11:09 pm

    Russia needs to modernise the iskander m/k (4 missile version) build them in the 100's, increase range of the bm-30 smerch with guided rockets. Keep them up north, to pin down, penisland/finland.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun May 15, 2022 11:16 pm

    Regular wrote:Can anyone ID this belt buckle?

    This is from the video Zvezda posted. Now I see they blurred out the belts too, but still less censored video can be found on their TG.

    https://t.co/1nnBYi7fe8

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    Uniforms seem to be in MTP and Russians don't use them, only a few SSO units have been seen with them and Ukrainians would be the ones using them, not to mention ATGM there too, I doubt captured one would be used in the island. But this belt buckle is being claimed to be Russian BSF naval infantry by OSINT guys.

    I can't find any official belt buckles by Ukrainians or Russians so I can't check this myself. It doesn't look Soviet, Russian nor Ukrainian to me.
    Bro you can buy that buckle on the Amazon. Another bs by OSINT.😂😂😂
    Something like this:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16  - Page 8 71d-bg10

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun May 15, 2022 11:20 pm

    Ukraine can defeat Russia – NATO

    Secretary General believes that Russian military operation in Ukraine is not going the way it was planned

    Speaking to the reporters after informal meetings of the military bloc’s foreign ministers, Stoltenberg revealed that the main topics of the discussions were “strong support for Ukraine, the further strengthening of NATO’s deterrence and defense, and the longer-term implications of the war,” including the alliance’s future stance towards Russia.

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    So this meant for average hohol warrior, I guess that they want them to keep fighting

    Nonetheless it probably means VSU will not surrender anytime soon

    I don't think even if Ukraine suffered 100k casualties that they would give up and that's saying something

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun May 15, 2022 11:30 pm

    Regular wrote:Can anyone ID this belt buckle?

    This is from the video Zvezda posted. Now I see they blurred out the belts too, but still less censored video can be found on their TG.

    https://t.co/1nnBYi7fe8

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    Uniforms seem to be in MTP and Russians don't use them, only a few SSO units have been seen with them and Ukrainians would be the ones using them, not to mention ATGM there too, I doubt captured one would be used in the island. But this belt buckle is being claimed to be Russian BSF naval infantry by OSINT guys.

    I can't find any official belt buckles by Ukrainians or Russians so I can't check this myself. It doesn't look Soviet, Russian nor Ukrainian to me.

    Looks like this. "1957 officers belt"

    https://www.antiqueshop.ru/catalogue/morskie_priboru/comments_item_74232.html

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    Post  Vann7 Sun May 15, 2022 11:33 pm

    Finally discovered , the puzzle of why the Russian military shows such incredible weakness in both ,providing air cover to their ground troops from ukraine drones and in being efficient in their use of their own drones , and counter ukraine using exactly their same tactics.

    And the reasons should have been obvious for me , but i made the big mistake to believe a single word
    to putin when he demanded that russian companies stop their dependence of western technology in 2014 with the first round of massive sanctions from the west ,and replace western world system technology with domestic ones .   Rolling Eyes

    So the reasons is this ,Russia is way behind the west in high tech electronics ,and all this advanced weapons nato like drones ,required advance electronics , and putin have been ignoring completely the development of Russia high tech industry . Most of putin investments for nation development was wasted for two decades since he is in power in pure cosmetic artificial development of russian business , like sports , like luxury parks , luxury roads , olympic avenues ,fast trains , things that
    make russia economy dependent on tourism that was totally negated with the western sanctions.  No    and of course becaue most of russia investment was aimed at transforming russia in a saudi arabia of asia , in hopes to creating a monopoly in world energy. No



    This is why putin have done more bad than good , And have been the biggest threat to Russia own existence ,to russian nation independence and development. By not doing what he was supposed to do , in true development and true independence of the nation economy and business,
    he even put in danger its own country national security , by depending so much in european ,american and their asian puppet electronic giants tech. Between 2010 and 2018 , putin invested at least  $100 billion USD dollars!!!! is meaningless bullshit sport distractions ,to try to "influence the west" into "friendship with russia" and "proof russia is not outdated nation" by holding modern olympics. and cut the space budget in half , for totally useless distractions ,that  in no way modernize the Russian economy ,that so desperately Russia needs , to end russia dependence of the western system ,that so much dominates and controls most business in the advanced developed world.

    So is to blame for russia outdated drone technology?
    -putin is.

    who is to blame for russia third place in space?
    putin is.

    who is to blame for all this failure of russia to influence nations away of nato?
    putin is to blame and only him. because he is the one that decide the direction of the nation
    economy. when you have a president that absolutely understand nothing of what the west is doing,
    with so much business power , allowing them to dominate in every important area of nations development , then he himself blocks the true development of its military in many important areas
    and also weakens significantly russia advance business influence , russia softpower ,in the world .


    While putin was giving gas discounts to ukraine , to try to lure them "away of nato" , the west was providing ukrainians with iphones , digital cameras , internet , advance audio system , computers ,and space leadership .  More money ,does not necessarily more nation development, is not about quantity ,but about quality of russia economy , quality of russia development ,what putin needs to think.  quality economy > quantity economy.  the first one can bypass western sanctions and can help russia achieve its own nation true independence and disband the western economic block ,with superior business.


    so there is no worse president that those that don't have a clue of what they doing, by allowing russia to depend so much in anglo-asian nazi friendlies economies , he himself by his own hand ,
    significantly limits its nation economic potential ,and even less the probability of russia to one day become true independent nation.  When you have bad leadership , you can't expect a nation to become truly developed and truly independent and even less disband NATO ,that is break the western destructive system.  People say , just give him more time , but unfortunately ,under putin administration , not even in one million of years , if he could last that long , it will help russia to become an independent nation. Russia desperately needs a new government , that understand clearly how the west influence the world , and convince them to move away from russia orbit. is called business power , and leadership.  those that lead the world development are followed , that don't don't lead are left behind and isolated of partially isolated ,as is the case of Russia ,iran ,north korea , cuba and venezuela.  Russia biggest curse , is their own administration , that 1)don't understand what  Leadership and how important is for Russia to influence the world with a lot more
    than gas station and cheap oil discounts . The core of all major russia BIG issues , what threatens the the nation own existence , is that Russia don't lead, and the west DO leads.. with their softpower ,business power. And so more money , bigger economy will not solve russian problems if later russia can't buy anything they need for the modernization of their nation and military.  

    Basically russia significantly limits their drones use , causing russia military to lose a lot of equipment and soldiers to drones , because russia drones are extremely dependent of anglo-asian pupets bussiness tech. and so they can't buy more or produce them at home ,and so they need to limit their use significantly , for much bigger wars they know will face . Some of its technology that all their drones use ,that russia can't produce locally at home without the support of the west.  Russian president have been clueless for 21 years of how important for russia own nation existence is their high tech electronic industry .  Now is too late for Russia showing any competition to the western world business , now russia is in survival mode , and it best it could do is hope for china to not collapse or break , that is the only thing left , that will keep russia afloat.  Because russsia no longer will be provided with any technology and what they failed to achieve in 20 years on their own with putin in power in the high tech industry ,will not magically show up in the next 10.  No

    im even reading reports that russian army is facing major problems with night vision supply to their troops, but no idea if those are true , but will not be surprised , if russian nigh vision thermals are also foreign made , since whenever i see russian media , showing "Russia technology advances" , to uplift the morale of russian citizens , what i notice is russian engineers soldering by hand circuits boards.. one by one. Rolling Eyes Means russia will never catchup with the west tech , or have a chance to mass produce anything high tech domestically in big numbers, including drones. So this is awfully bad  , that russia is so far behind the west in high electronics , when this is so extremely important not only for the business development of their nation , but as we can see now , to the russian military too and so far for russian own existence. No  

    Uraine have proved beyond any doubts , that russian airdefenses and cover of its own nation airspace is not as good as the military advertised, that there are huge blind spots ,where any aircraft can enter flying low , even in russian western borders with NATO. No  So this massive holes in russia air space defenses , should be even worse in northen and eastern borders of russia.
    So It will NOT be surprising at all , that all those mysterious explosions in russian territory of weapons depots , and scientist laboratories of russia defense industry ,from belgorod ,to moscow to urals , are all caused by NATO strike drones ,that sneak inside russia large territory. Some of this fires and drone attacks could be strike drones that were sneak in secret inside russian cities in hundreds of parts by trucks ,and later assembled there . Thus allowing more easily to evade any air defenses.


    Russia perhaps could have deployed permanent downward looking radars ,as i told long time ago ,
    but putin's fanboys claimed "russia don't need that" "russian air defenses are enough"    Rolling Eyes

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    aerostat radars looking downward should be deployed across all their entire western borders with ukraine ,baltics and finland and in kalingrad ,to have permanent monitoring of its airpace and never miss the entry of a low flying aircraft on their territory .

    something to think about.. if ukraine had nuclear weapons , already a russian cities near the border with ukraine will have been destroyed. ukraine is helping to understand the weakness of russian air defenses . those s-400s in crimea failed to protect russian warships near snake island No
    People ignore how important is that any aircraft , whether is combat jet ,helicopter or drone ,flying high or very low , is stopped way beyond it gets close to launch its missiles. So is doesn't matter at all , how many drones russia army claims they intercepted from ukraine ,if they allowed to hit first
    their intended targets , and fire all its missiles , then it will be too late, and nato can continue sending more and more , drones , to overwhelm russian military and even sink russia entire navy in black sea. if this is not alarming , then no idea what alarming is.. russia air defenses are being exposed in failing to properly protect their military in ground ,their main land cities and russian warships in the black sea from NATO drones and their supplied anti ship missiles to ukraine. No





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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun May 15, 2022 11:39 pm

    Wow, all of that text because the cheap mass-produced model airplane that is the Orlan-10 has cheap off-the-shelf electronics and doesn't come with space lasers installed.

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    Post  Isos Sun May 15, 2022 11:46 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can defeat Russia – NATO

    Secretary General believes that Russian military operation in Ukraine is not going the way it was planned

    Speaking to the reporters after informal meetings of the military bloc’s foreign ministers, Stoltenberg revealed that the main topics of the discussions were “strong support for Ukraine, the further strengthening of NATO’s deterrence and defense, and the longer-term implications of the war,” including the alliance’s future stance towards Russia.

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    So this meant for average hohol warrior, I guess that they want them to keep fighting

    Nonetheless it probably means VSU will not surrender anytime soon

    I don't think even if Ukraine suffered 100k casualties that they would give up and that's saying something

    Yeah Stoltenberg is really famous for its books about military strategies and its background in military.

    Wait... no he isn't actually. He is just famous for his ability to swollow US spermatozoids.

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    Post  Ispan Mon May 16, 2022 12:00 am

    Collected reports of the last 3 days. Briefings, summaries, maps, reports, news, links with lots of videos, a lot of reading

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/15/informe-especial/

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 16, 2022 12:52 am

    Ispan wrote:Collected reports of the last 3 days. Briefings, summaries, maps, reports, news, links with lots of videos, a lot of reading

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/15/informe-especial/

    Missing from the translation are some excellent maps.

    Summaries of the previous days,

    For short, I copy only reports from Telegram channels that are more difficult to view and translate correctly. When the summaries of the day are published on a website, I put the link

    THURSDAY, May 12 - Vladislav Ugolny

    Briefly: the Ukrainians were expelled from the Rubizhne suburbs, advances in the area of Krasny Liman and Avdeyevka, an attack was launched from Popasnaya to surround Zolotoye.

    Direction Kharkov - Ukrainians control the Prudyanka-Nursery-Rubizhne line. The fighting continues in the Liptsov area. In the Chuguev area - unchanged. To the south, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not abandon attempts to cross the Seversky Donets River in the Chepil area.

    PAVLOGRAD ARCH:

    Northern flank of the arch (from Izyum to Popasnaya) – in the Izyum area the fighting continues along the entire front, tactical advance to Dolgenky (heights taken). East of Oskol reports about the liberation of Novoselovka, the advance to Drobyshevo and the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the south of Yampol, which was previously liberated by the Russians. The operation to force the Seversky Donets River in the area of Belogorovka and Shipilovka continues. In the Borovaya area the enemy was pushed to the right bank of the river and Voevodovka was liberated. Earlier, the advanced units of the People's Militia of the LPR entered Severodonetsk, the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed the bridge between Voevodivka and Severodonetsk. In Bakhmutka (Artemovsk), the battles for Orekhovo continue, and the advance on Toshkovka continues.

    Central Front (from Popasna to Marinka) - from Popasna to cut off the Ukrainian fortified area in Zolotoye, they advanced on Kamyshevakha. In the direction of Artemovsk and Svitlodarsk, shelling is being carried out on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Troitsk. In the Avdeyevka area, an offensive is being carried out on Kamenka, Novokalinovo, Novoselovka-2 and Novoselovka to cut off the Avdiivka — Konstantinovka highway. In Marinka and Novomikhailovka - unchanged.

    Southern flank of the arch (from the Dnieper River to Marinka) - there is no information about the change of the front line.

    Mariupol Caldera - the assault on Azovstal continues, the enemy has lost one of the water supply routes.

    Direction Kterson-Mykolaiv-first line unchanged: Black Sea-Aleksandrovka—Maksimovka - Snigirevka-Vysokopolye-Dnieper River.



    Highlights 12 May - Rybar

    ▪ the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the training base of the Ukrainian Territorial Defense Novgorod-Seversky.

    ▪ in the Poltava region, cruise missiles attacked the Kremenchug oil refinery.

    ▪ In Belogorovka and Shepilovo are fighting fiercely, the People's Militia of the LPR launched an assault on Privolye. From Vojvodka the Allied forces reached the border of the Borovaya River.

    ▪ A large-scale assault has begun in Severodonetsk, Allied forces are advancing from three directions.

    ▪ the fighting continues for Orekhovo and Toshkovo. An offensive has been launched from Popasnoya in the direction of Kamyshevakhi.

    ▪ at the Azovstal Iron and Steel Works, the Allied forces occupied the territories of the auxiliary enterprises along the Kalmius.

    ▪ the Ukrainian Armed Forces are regrouping and preparing for a new offensive on the island of Zmeiny. (snake island)



    Summary Cassad (Boris Rozhin) May 12, 2022

    1-Mariupol-The unhurried assault on the Azovstal industrial complex in Mariupol continues. Having lost the slag hills, the Azov fighters (Neo-Nazi National Guard regiment of Ukraine) continue to maintain key buildings on the territory of the complex. These strong points are being subjected to air and artillery strikes by the Allied forces, which contributes to a steady increase in casualties in Azov.

    3-Ugledar-There have been no changes along the Novomikhailovka—Ugledar—Velikaya Novoselovka line. Reports indicate heavy fighting in the Novomikhailovka area.

    4-Maryinka-There has been no substantial progress within the boundaries of the settlement. Fighting continues, as before, in the vicinity of the waste hill

    5-Avdeyevka-Clashes continue along the Avdeevka—Konstantinovka highway. Reports indicate that Ukrainian troops have blown up the dam to delay the progress of the advancing allied forces. Fighting is also continuing near Novobakhmutovka, in the vicinity of Troitskoye.

    6-LNR-After the capture of Popasnaya, the allied forces continue to explore the defenses of the Ukrainian army in the direction of Artyomovsk (Bakhmut). Clashes are also continuing near Toshkovka and Voevodovka. Ukrainian units are moving away from Rubezhnoye. Heavy fighting is taking place in the vicinity of Belogorovka, where a threat to the communication lines of the Severodonetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has materialized. Both sides suffer losses. However, the risk of encirclement of a part of the Donbass military grouping of the Ukrainian army is increasing.

    7-Izyum: Heavy clashes continue near Kurulka and Pashkovo, as well as in the vicinity of Velikaya Kamyshevakha. Near Yampol, the Ukrainian army suffered heavy losses and was forced to retreat. The Allied armies are approaching Krasny Lyman (Lyman) from the northwest. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is rushing reserves to this theater of the campaign in order to shore up the rupture of the front.

    8-Kharkov- Ukrainian units are carrying out attacks in the direction of Liptsy and Kazachya Lopan, intending to move the allied forces away from Kharkov. The Ukrainian army has also advanced from Stary Saltov in the direction of Ternovaya, in the vicinity of which fighting is taking place. It is clear that the situation in the theater of the Kharkov campaign requires Russian reinforcements. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine approaching the border increase the threat of shelling settlements on the territory of the Russian Federation, and it would be difficult to suppress such attacks without controlling the border with the Kharkov region.

    The lid of the cauldron of Avdeyevka closes

    https://topwar.ru/196175-voenkor-soobschaet-o-zahlopnuvshejsja-kryshke-kotla-dlja-protivnika-v-avdeevke.html



    About losses at the river crossing on Belogorovka- Gleb Bazov

    To close the issue of the pontoon crossing of the Allied forces near Belogorovka. And move on. Yes, in fact, the Ukrainian artillery attack was real.

    Yes, the losses were suffered by the Allied troops. My information indicates that less than two dozen vehicles were lost in the debacle. I do not think that the personnel losses will exceed 50 servicemen from the Allied armies.

    Yes, the battle for Belogorovka continues and the Allied forces could not maintain control after initially taking the settlement. However, the fate of Belogorovka has already been decided, and the only reason the fighting continues is that the Ukrainian troops have no other choice.

    All that is a tactical setback that is completely overshadowed by the breakthrough of Allied units near Belogorovka, Krasny Lyman (Lyman) and Yampol, Shandrigolovo and Novoselka, and, of course, in the Severodonetsk triangle and around Popasnaya (on the first day of the offensive alone, the Allied forces eliminated up to 120 Ukrainian fighters and multiple armored vehicles in the Popasnaya sector).

    Maps and reviews of Cassad

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/523



    FRIDAY, May 13 - Vladislav Ugolny

    The highlight: the liberation of Dolgenky, the battle for the passage of the river in the Belogorovka area, the intensification of hostilities in the Ugledar area.

    Kharkov direction, unchanged: the Ukrainian counterattack stopped, the Ukrainians control the Prodyanka-Pitnik-Rubizhne line, and the fighting continues in the Liptsov area. The Russians are unable to develop an offensive on the right bank of the Donets River because of the destroyed bridges. In the area of Chuguev and Balakleya - unchanged. There is also no information about new attacks to cross the Donets River south of Balakleya. There is information about the transfer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Kharkov direction to Lysychansk.

    Maps and photos of the Ukrainian counterattacks

    https://t.me/rezident_ua/12203

    PAVLOGRAD ARCH:

    Northern flank of the arc (from Izyum to Popasnaya) – in the area of Izyum Dolgenkoe was released in the morning, a bastion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine between Izyum and Slavyansk (in the positions occupied was found the corpse of a woman raped by Ukronazis, and murdered.)

    In addition to approaching Slavyansk, this will worsen the position of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the right bank of the Seversky Donets River in the Svyatogorsk area.

    An offensive was launched in the direction of Dolina and Bogorodichnoye with the aim of reaching Slavyansk and finally encircling the enemy in Svyatogorsk. There is no updated information about the situation between Oskol and Yampol, which continues in the area of Aleksandrovka and Novoselovka. In the Belogorovka area, despite the losses, it was possible to take a bridgehead on the left bank of the Donets. Information about the start of the battles in Severodonetsk is confirmed, but at the moment these are advanced units. In Bakhmutka, the battles for Orekhovo and Tashkent continue. Fixing attacks on enemy positions in Zolotoye.

    Central Front (from Popasnaya to Marinka) - fighting continues for Kamyshevakha and cannonade in the direction of Svitlodarsk. In the Avdeyevka area, the offensive continues in Kamenka, Novokalinovo, Novoselovka-2 and Novoselovka to cut the Avdeyevka—Konstantinovka highway. Training intensified in Marinka and Novomikhailovka.

    Southern flank of the arch (from the Dnieper River to Marinka) - a section of the front in the Ugledar area has become more active. Fighting in the Pavlovka and Vladimirovka sector. There is no information about the fighting west of Ugledar.

    Mariupol Caldera-the assault on Azovstal continues, with 2,000 Ukrainian militants remaining at the plant, 600 of them wounded.

    Direction Kherson-Mykolaiv-first line unchanged: Black Sea-Alexandrovka - Maksimovka-Snigirevka-Vysokopolye-Dnieper River.

    Regarding Avdeyevka - Gleb Bazov

    What is happening here is what I described in a post a few days ago. A frontal assault on the heavily fortified Avdeyevka would be too costly in terms of personnel and resources. Instead, the idea is to bypass Avdeyevka from the north, isolate it from logistics with the Ukrainian hinterland, all the while protecting the flanks of the offensive, and materially starve the Ukrainian defenders in the Avdeevka fortress, creating a mini-cauldron. Meanwhile, a group of DNR forces has been engaged in a static frontal attack that immobilizes the defenders of Avdeyevka with the threat of pursuit and artillery fire.

    Accordingly, the Allied forces have been conducting an offensive on Kamenka, Novokalinovo, Novoselovka 2 (Drugaya) and Novoselovka, intending to cut off the Avdeyevka — Konstantinovka supply route (shown with a dotted blue line on the map). The offensive has been activated here in the last two days. Once the road is cut off, Avdeyevka will be in operational encirclement



    Central Front (from Popasnaya to Maryinka) - Gleb Bazov

    The Allied forces advanced from Popasnaya towards Kamyshevakha for the purpose of isolating the stronghold of the Ukrainian troops in Zolotoye from the rest of the Donbass military grouping (this is being done in sync with the attack on Orekhovo, north of Zolotoye). Arestovich, the master Ukrainian propagandist, had previously identified Zolotoye as a key stronghold of Ukrainian troops in the area after the fall of Popasnaya.

    To support the offensive in the direction of Artemovsk and Svetlodarsk, the Allied forces are conducting artillery shelling against the Ukrainian positions on Troitskoye.

    Summary of Rybar 13 May published here

    https://slavyangrad.es/2022/05/14/24542/#more-24542

    Summary of Readovka 13 May

    https://readovka .news/news/96911



    SATURDAY 14 MAY

    Summary of Readovka 14 Mayo

    https://readovka .news/news/97002

    Summary of Rybar 14 Mayo

    Offensive in Donbass: the situation at the end of May 14, 2022

    ️In the direction of Izyum, Ukrainian forces tried to cross the Seversky Donets River and attack the flank of the army advancing against Slavyansk. Ukrainian units were beaten by artillery at the crossing point.

    ◾ Dolgenkoye, released on the eve. Long fighting continues. The Ukrainians tried to take back the village, but were repulsed.

    At the bridgehead on the western bank of the Seversky Donets River in the area of Belogorovka and Privolye, fierce fighting continues. After receiving new orders from the command the Russian units changed tactics and are fighting furiously for control of the area.

    ◾ The city battles continue in Severodonetsk: several blocks were taken.

    ◾ Expansion of the gap in Popasnaya. Having taken the village of Alexandropolye to the north, the attack continues in the direction of Kamyshevaha, if you go ahead and take the locality and the road junction, the enemy grouping in Severodonetsk-Lisichansk-Rubezhnoye is threatened with encirclement.

    ️ ️ The Ukrainian Armed Forces blew up the dam of the Mironovsky reservoir in e the Svitlodarsk district. Potentially, this threatens to flood several areas of Luhansk.

    ◾ The offensive in Avdiivka is developing successfully: the Ukrainian fortifications in the city of Avdeyevka and in Troitske have been taken, some hills have been taken that open the way to New York (Novgorodovka), the fighting continues in Novoselka.

    On the Western edge there is fighting on Novobakhmutovka and the Avdiivka-Konstantinovka highway is disputed.

    After a long artillery preparation, attacks on Novoselovka-2 from Novobakhmutovka and Kamienka from Yasinovataya.

    In Peski, Maryinka and Novomikhailovka, as well as on the Ugledar front line remained unchanged.

    ◾ On the territory of the Mariupol Azovstal Iron and Steel Factory, the Allied forces managed to occupy part of the thick plate rolling workshop, one of the two largest workshops in the complex.



    Donetsk – Avdeyevka Front 14 May

    Flanking attacks on Avdeyevka, breakthrough on Maryinka and fighting on Gulyay-Pole

    16:30 hours

    https://topwar.ru/196290-boi-v-rajone-internata-v-marinke-i-aktivizacija-nanesenija-udarov-po-pozicijam-protivnika-v-rajone-guljajpolja.html

    Positions taken on the outskirts of Avdeyevka, the enemy retreats into the inner city

    21:25 hours

    https://topwar.ru/196295-na-avdeevskom-napravlenii-vzjaty-peredovye-pozicii-boevikov-protivnik-otstupil-vglub-goroda.html

    The next day Cassad published this report:

    Zaporozhe – Donetsk Front: Major Ukrainian attack repulsed in Malinovka - Boris Rozhin

    the next day Cassad published this report on the fighting on Saturday 14 May

    "The Armed Forces of Ukraine from 09.00 tried to hit the flank of our group in the direction of Gulyay Pole-Malinovka.

    Several groups came out with the support of tanks, and armored BMP. At the junctions between our units they could not enter. The fighting continued into the evening.

    The enemy had no tactical success. Confirmed enemy losses: 30 tanks, BMP 11, BTR 2, Grad 2 rocket launchers, irrevocable losses of the enemy - more than 300. The figures are very serious, but nevertheless there are losses on our part: irrevocable 15, sanitary-11. There are no data on material losses."

    Comment: It would be hard to believe these figures of Ukrainian losses (own casualties are censored), but it should be borne in mind that in the fighting for the river crossing in Belogorovka dozens of destroyed armored vehicles, up to 70, from both sides have been photographed. So it is possible that indeed the Ukrainians have carried out a counterattack of this scale. After all the terrain is more open and conducive to the maneuver of armored units. There are no war correspondents on this front and it has been static for weeks, but it is because the Ukrainians concentrated their best troops here to stop the Russian offensive that started from Volnovakha, considering that to the north of Donbass, the terrain was not favorable for an offensive. By the time they realized that it was no fun and sent reinforcements, they had already lost the Izyum bottleneck.

    If the front is stabilized here it does not mean that it will not be fought, the shelling is very intense and some villages have changed hands several times.



    SUNDAY 15 May

    Boris Rozhin:

    20:00 hours

    In the afternoon, there were reports that the enemy was retreating from the villages of Yarovaya and Drobysheva (there are no photos and videos confirming this yet). Previously, he was already expelled from Novoselovka. The main points of resistance in this direction are Svyatogorsk and Krasny Liman, which, after losing Yampol and Drobyshevo, will be enveloped on both sides. Earlier, the bridge between Slaviansk and Krasny Liman, as well as the bridges near Svyatogorsk, was destroyed. Obviously, the enemy hopes to hold on to these settlements for some time, and then organize resistance on the basis of the Seversky Donets and defensive positions in the Dolgenky area.

    Gleb Bazov

    20:30 hours

    Izyum: I was waiting for more information about the situation around Barvenkovo, but, as I suspected, the claims of the assault on Barvenkovo itself were premature. The only solid report indicates that the allied (Russian-Allied) forces have engaged the enemy near Gusarovka, en route to Barvenkovo, several smaller villages will be taken first, and progress towards the first will be marked by reports of these intermediate victories.



    Front line 22:00 hours

    Data on the situation at the front according to Ukrainian sources who monitor local social networks and report the noise of fighting and shelling.

    In almost all places the cannonade and the fighting are described as "intense" or "strong", when there is no fighting other relevant events are described

    Grushevakha-Ukraine. Explosions (arrivals)
    Velikaya Kamyshevakha- Russia
    Barzhanovka - Russia
    Novaya Dmitrovka-Ukraine (assault)
    Dibrovnoye- Russia
    Kurulka - Russia attacks (assault)
    Dolgenkoe - Russia.
    Dolina-Ukraine (arrivals)
    Yaremovka-Russian Federation
    Bogorodichnoye-Ukraine(arrivals)
    Yatskoe - Russia. Restoration of bus service to Svatovo
    Alexandrovka - Russia. (arrival)
    Drobyshevo - Russia. Shooting
    Liman-Ukraine (arrivals, departures)
    Yampol - Russia. Shooting
    Dibrova-Ukraine. Shooting (people in basements)
    Dronovka-Ukraine (calm)
    Seversk-Ukraine (there are arrivals)
    Privolye-Ukraine. Shooting
    Svitlodarsk-Ukraine. (assault)
    Toshkovka-Ukraine. (assault)
    Zolotoe-Ukraine. (assault)
    Popasnaya - Russia (the breakthrough is expanded after the break of the front)
    Mironovsky-APU (dam blasting)
    Troitskoe - Russia. storming the outskirts of New York)
    Novobakhmutovka – Russia. Fort (assault on the Avdiivka – Kostiantynivka highway)
    Novoselovka 2- Ukraine Loudly (assault)

    Izyum

    https://t.me/s/vysokygovorit

    19:55 hours

    "Today, 13 enemy missiles were shot down over Izyum. Some of them are Tochka, others are Tornado and possibly American Himars rockets."

    What can I say, glory to air defense!»

    - According to the statement of the Russian army, 11 Smerch rockets and one Tochka missile were shot down in the Kherson region



    15.05.22. Message from military observer Marina Kharkova:

    Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine released 8 peaceful civilians from Novoselovka, where they are located, next to us, in the DPR. No provocations or shots fired.
    But this is not about humanism. Thus, the enemy gained time for himself, gained a breather. Since during the withdrawal of civilians from two to five, there were no assaults and shelling of enemy positions, and after five in the afternoon, attacks are usually not carried out. This is how long-term defense tactics work.

    Donetsk - Gorlovka Front

    It must be remembered that in parallel to the attacks on Avdeyevka, they are attacked in the direction of New York, it seems that they are very close but in reality there is about 20 km away.

    On the outskirts of New York

    10:15 a.m.

    https://topwar.ru/196303-podrazdelenija-nm-dnr-pri-podderzhke-vs-rossii-vybili-protivnika-s-ukreprajona-na-podstupah-k-nju-jorku.html

    Summary of May 15 - Vladislav Ugolny 23:00 hours

    Briefly: Ukrainian group in the Krasny Liman area split in two, offensive north of Popasnaya, battles for the suburbs of Severodonetsk.

    Direction Kharkov-the Ukrainians control the Prudyanka-Nursery-Rubizhne line, in the Ternovy area they reached the state border. To the south, the front has not changed, there is information about the defeat of an attempt to cross the river by the enemy between Balakleya and Izyum.

    PAVLOGRAD ARCH:

    Northern flank of the arch (from Izyum to Popasnaya) – in the Izyum area, the fighting continues in the Dolgenky and Kurulka area. In the Oskol area, according to unconfirmed information, Yarovaya and Drobyshevo were liberated, the Ukrainian grouping on the left bank of the Seversky Donets River was divided into two parts one in. Svyatogorsk and another in Krasny Liman. There is no information about the fighting in the Belogorovka area, but the Lisichansk-Artemovsk highway is still beaten by our fire. In Severodonetsk, there are battles for Shchedrishchevo, Voronovo and Borovskoye. In Bakhmutka, the battles for Orekhovo and Toshkovka continue.

    Central Front (from Popasnaya to Marinka) - Alexandropolye was liberated north of Popasnaya, and the fighting continues for Kamyshevakha and in the Vrubovka area. In the Avdeyevka area, the offensive continues in the directions of the Avdiivka — Konstantinovka and Novgorodskoye highways, in the area of the latter, the enemy's fortified area was destroyed. There is also unconfirmed information about the activation of artillery work in the north of Gorlovka. In Marinka, no changes.

    Southern flank of the arch (from the Dnieper River to Marinka): the fighting continues in the Ugledar area, Velikaya Novoselka (according to unconfirmed information, we control the village of Neskuchnoye). There is information about an unsuccessful attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Gulyai-Pole area.

    Mariupol-Azovstal caldera began to be bombarded with incendiary shells.

    It is speculated that if there is a biological weapons laboratory, the reason for this bombing may be to burn the area to prevent the possible spread of pathogens. I hadn't thought of such a possibility, but it's strange to resort to incendiaries now.

    Video:

    https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/2167

    At the same time, aviation shelling and attacks by infantry assault units continue.

    Address Kherson-Nykolaev-first line without novelty : Black Sea-Aleksandrovka—Maksimovka - Snigirevka-Vysokopolye-Dnieper River.



    Other reports and analysis



    1. Strategy, tactics and analysis:

    the Russians did not take Kiev in three days

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/russkie_ne_vzyali_kiev_za_tri_dnya.html

    What happens at the front and what will happen to the war?

    very good interview with retired Colonel Yuri Knutov, one of the most interesting analysts and who knows what he is talking about

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/ukrainskij_front_chto_tam_proishodit_i_kuda_dvizhetsya_vojna_intervu_.html

    2. Armament

    Lessons from Ukraine: how the armored ones will change

    https://topwar.ru/196113-uroki-ukrainy-kak-izmenitsja-bronetehnika-posle-rossijskoj-specoperacii.html

    Why drones are not the panacea

    https://topwar.ru/195978-pochemu-dron-ne-panaceja.html

    The ineffectiveness of portable anti-aircraft missiles against Russian aircraft

    https://topwar.ru/196301-jeffektivnost-primenenija-pzrk-protiv-aviacii-vks-rossii-na-ukraine-upala-nizhe-10-procentov.html

    3. Other

    Surrenders of Ukrainian soldiers

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/kak_soldaty_vsu_v_plen_sdautsya_komandiry_brosili_edy_i_vody_net_snaryady.html



    The threat of Polish intervention in Ukraine

    FIGHTING VIDEOS

    About the seizure of the Zarya gunpowder factory, in Rubezhnoye

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/1482752.html

    Airstrikes on Avdeyevka

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/video_vks_rf_unichtozhaut_neonacistov_pod_avdeevkoj.html

    LNR artillery shelling Svitlodarsk

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/vojska_lnr_obstrelivaut_pozicii_vsu_u_goroda_svetlodarsk.html

    Hotels near New York

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/boi_pod_nu_jorkom_novgorodskoe_na_donbasse_pervye_kadry.html

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/sily_dnr_nastupaut_na_pozicii_vsu_v_rajone_nu_jorka.html

    The military battalion on Avdeyevka

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/05/tankisty_dnr_unichtozhaut_pozicii_vsu_u_avdeevki.html

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    Post  Vann7 Mon May 16, 2022 1:16 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Wow, all of that text because the cheap mass-produced model airplane that is the Orlan-10 has cheap off-the-shelf electronics and doesn't come with space lasers installed.

    no..
    but because it shows why russia is so weak and limited in their use of drones  and why they so weak
    and limited in protection against them. because they can't mass produce drones without foreign  electronics.. for russia dependence on the western technology and its controlled asian economies.

    Means russia is struggling to fight ukraine ,and losing so many soldiers and warships sinked and their main cities bombed because of russian weakness in advance electronics.. that ukraine receive in endless supply ,but russia don't ,and neither can't produce them locally anymore for its dependence on the west. No more orlan-10 drones for russia , if they are under sanctions. what camera they going to use now, soviet  cameras from the 70s ?  lol1  and if they find to copy one from the west , can't mass produce them. doomed either way.  Will not be surprising if this problems with orlan-10 development also exist in their orion drones too. that russia military industry have been unable to
    produce alternative to western controlled technology and so is very limited the production of drones that russia can do with its own domestic and  inferior electronics.

    Minimizing russian mistakes and real weakness of Russia defense industry with high tech ,will not help in any way the russian army to become more efficient. it actually could not help the government to address the problem and take it seriously , if they become victims of russian defende minister ,and fanboys propaganda, that everything is going accordingly to the plans.. Rolling Eyes No  

    by the record , i don't think ,that even with all this very serious weakness of russian military in ukraine ,that still dont dominate or control ukraine airpace, not even close , allow those NATO drones to fly for too much time , enough to fire their missiles , before they destroyed and smash  their soldiers and tanks first ,with impunity before they taken down , don't think that even with this  advantantage of nato weapons ,that ukraine will win , at all , because russia can continue bombing with cruise missiles ukraine entire infrastructure and economy ,even if the russian military completely destroyed there. but still this doesn't change the fact of badly prepared is russia to defend against nato ,  and how vulnerable is russia military without locally produced advance electronics ,without locally produced and manufacturer computer processors. artifical intelligence and drones is the future and russia don't make computers , without western controlled technology help.  No

    Russia government and military will need to do major radical changes to what they were doing , in terms of training and priorities . those surface warships are floating coffins , to drones attacks , russia needs to significantly invest on their airforce and drones and develop a real high tech electronics industry and stop depending on western tech for once. Artificial intelligence and flying drones will dominate future wars, and this is exactly the area russia is way behind the west and will face major issues for their dependence of western tech.


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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon May 16, 2022 1:42 am

    diabetus wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    diabetus wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    diabetus wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:@diabetius u stated "That's nonsense. An AK is better at every conceivable role save for sniping. An AK firing semi auto with iron sights is far more effective at defending buildings at realistic ranges than a mosin with irons is."

    Clearly you have zero military experience and majority of your comments are BS hence I have u on ignore enough said.

    @regular you stated "
    It's evident they won't be doing armed school cop duty and will be part of an offensive on an ever-changing battlefield. SVD is superior to any bolt action there is in ANY ROLE, even in sniping"

    Yet again its clear u have no military experience or weapons intelligence. SVD is a marksman/battlefield rifle it isn't superior at anything other than that role. It's certainly not superior to sniping as you claim it cannot match the accuracy of a bolt action sniper rifle and it cannot match the range and accuracy of a 12.7mm sniper rifle. I actually fired a Dragunov in Ukraine back in 2014 (happy to show you the pic) on the same day also a mosin nagant carbine. Ask yourself if the SVD is superior to any other weapon in any role as u state then every Russian would be armed with one and nobody would be armed with assault rifles and sniper rifles, LMG, etc. Your comment was pretty dumb to be honest. Every weapon has it's purpose and it's advantages and disadvantages.

    Sigh. You need to learn how to read. A mosin (or SVD) is not better at any role than an AK is with iron sights. You can't see far enough to make a use of the ballistics of the full sized 7.62 round. I've served and continue to serve in an army for almost a decade, if you really think a mosin is a superior infantry rifle (not a sniper rifle with optics, and it probably is inferior as a DM rifle with optics) then you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't care if you've shot something at a range. This is settled as assault rifles have replaced bolt action rifles for just about every role. If you disagree, do some basic research after you lay off the drugs you take.

    You're arguing that soldiers with iron sighted mosins are better off than they would be with AKs. Think about the foolishness of such a statement.

    As I said u have no military experience clearly the only thing you have been serving is more than a decade in mental health secure unit, taking vast amounts of meds and copium. Your comments on this forum are troll like and full of nonsense. I confirmed everything I have claimed in my past in this forum with evidence. Currently u have zero. Have done any FIBUA training????? Clearly not. Maybe u should enlist and doing some actual training and I don't mean on call of duty like where u got your current experience. Also learn how to use an iron sight while your at it.

    Ur Back on the ignore list again

    It must hurt to be this clueless.

    Judging by your post right after this one, you are in no position to call anyone clueless.

    The man served in an actual army. You didn't. You are a couch warrior with no skills but plenty of time to waste trolling this forums which I might add is also against the rules.

    I'll ask GarryB or George to clean up this thread with all the nonsense. I know if I still had my mod privileges like I did years ago, I would be handing out suspensions for a week for the trolling going on here.

    What army did he serve in lol?. I'm in an army and have been in one since 2013. He's arguing that a mosin with iron sights is superior to an AK with iron sights. There is no universe where that makes sense, and that's why armies generally issue assault rifles as standard issue weapons and abandoned bolt action rifles after WW2.

    The reason why u think it's makes no sense is because have never served at all. Only thing u have served is playing call of duty. Zero evidence of service and your comments on this forum are troll like and the rest of your comments are pure BS.
    If you bothered to read my previous comments on how bolt actions are useful in urban environments and assault rifles are better for patrolling and assaulting buildings hence the name. The reason why assault rifles are used more than bolt actions is because majority of the time they will be used in the field, bolt actions are still used for sniper rifles feel free to research it. Battlefield rifles only became popular since Afghanistan. Only the Soviets, eastern bloc have been using such weapon the Dragunov consistently over the decades. Your comment has made u look even more dumb.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 am

    diabetus wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:This argument about the Mosin-Nagant is academic

    They were literally dished out to hastily mobilized school teachers and such

    These aren't trained marksmen. They're civilians who at the most might have a little experience from the first war 8 years prior but would be pretty out of practice by now. More likely though, they're just ordinary civilians.
    I mean I'm sure these rifles are used in defense of buildings, with attempts at all sorts of interesting tactics. But for people with that level of expertise, they'll be better off with AKs, and defend or advance the good old fashioned way - by attaining firepower superiority. Rain enough fire onto the advancing enemy and he won't be able to get closer. Rain enough fire onto an enemy in defense and you'll pin him and then you can get closer. That's why assault rifles are versatile and noob-friendly.

    To hit even a target 300m away consistently with any sort of weapon, you need a lot of time spent at the range already. And BTW any AK apart from the most abysmal Bulgarian copy is perfectly accurate enough up to at least that range.
    If we're talking about ranges beyond 300m, then any weapon that maintains accuracy to 400-800m is fabulous, but useless for most people. You'll need a scope on the rifle, that you'll need the training, nerves and so on to be able to use effectively, you'll need to know how to keep the scope zero'd, and so on and so on. Not that I even saw scopes on those rifles.

    What a bolt-action rifle is good for as well though, is to teach the fundamentals of shooting. So I guess, it might be an interesting way to get the mobilized reserves through a baptism of fire. So long as you don't stick them anywhere too hairy. And then better issue them with AKs afterwards, unless they prove to be fantastic shots.

    Have you served? Iron sights can still get u hitting targets 600m even 800m if your good. Previous pics of troops armed with such looked far more professional than the ones in the video. And giving AK to noobs as u put isn't always a good thing, then then to be more trigger happy blasting off rounds wasting ammo, a bolt action reduces the tendancy to blast off as many and makes them more likely to actually aim when they fire. It's why here in UK cadet rifles were always bolt action or require a cock for every round to install a disciplined shot, I was a cadet for year before joining the army.

    And as u said needing a scope needs training especially on the SVD hence a SVD hasn't been issued to then despite Russia having truck loads of SVD. And as previously stated the power of the mosin verses the AK. The AK is good for patrolling a d attacking but defending building in a built up area the mosin is rather more useful. I really wish people here had FIBUA training maybe they would understand that tactics are completely different and not based on call of duty or some film they have watched. Various weapons are used and a completely different ratio compared to fighting in the field. I spent a whole year training in FIBUA, majority of the time troops got 2 weeks.

    You don't give "cadets" a bolt action rifle as they head to the front vs an enemy that clearly is going to fight back. "Cadets" aren't going to really be effective shooting at enemies (again, that are firing back) 400-800 meters away. The terrain isn't even that great for it due to hills and forests etc. You teach trigger discipline in the training ground, not at the front. It's a really good thing you aren't in charge of anything in this war.

    Cadets don't go to the frontline, cadets are kids I was a cadet at 15yrs, a government would have to be very desperate to send cadets. Secondly the British government/army clearly think bolt actions are the perfect weapon for cadets and since the sa-80 came out they use a cadet version with needs cocked every shot. But u clearly think u know better than British army. Trigger discipline goes out of the window with reservists when shit hits the fan, there level of training is far less than s professional soldier something u clearly have no knowledge in. It's a really good thing nobody has trusted u with a weapon or allowed you to serve because Ur mental capacity would severely endanger people within an armed forces. Thank God your experience only extends as far as a computer game and your imagination.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon May 16, 2022 2:05 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown clown Goddamn but its hard to take these lying idiots seriously!

    The head of the NATOstani sock puppets is increasingly chanelling Baghdad Bob these days... Razz   Maybe Stolty needs to get together with his predecessor (Fogh-of-War Rassmussen) and they can do a little duet?  Too late for Eurofagvision, and Ukropisstain was always designated as the winner, but the show must go on Razz

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    Post  Kiko Mon May 16, 2022 2:12 am

    Empire of Bioweapon Lies, by Pepe Escobar. 13.05.2022.

    What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow / Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man, / You cannot say, or guess, for you know only / A heap of broken images, where the sun beats, / And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief, / And the dry stone no sound of water. Only / There is shadow under this red rock, / (Come in under the shadow of this red rock), / And I will show you something different from either / Your shadow at morning striding behind you / Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you; / I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
    T.S. Eliot, The Waste Land: I. The Burial of the Dead, 1922

    This glimpse of “fear in a handful of dust” already ranks as one the prime breakthroughs of the young 21st century, presented this week by Chief of Russian Radiation, Chemical, and Biological Protection Force Igor Kirillov.

    The provisional results of evidence being collected about the work of U.S. bioweapons in Ukraine are simply astonishing. These are the main takeaways.

    1. U.S. bioweapon ideologues comprise the leadership of the Democratic Party. By linking with non-governmental biotechnology organizations, using the investment funds of the Clintons, Rockefellers, Soros and Biden, they profited from additional campaign financing – all duly concealed. In parallel, they assembled the legislative basis for financing the bioweapons program directly from the federal budget.

    2. COVID-19 vaccine manufacturers Pfizer and Moderna, as well as Merck and Gilead – of Donald “known unknowns” fame, and affiliated with the Pentagon – were directly involved.

    3. U.S. specialists tested new drugs in the Ukraine biolabs in circumvention of international safety standards. According to Kirillov, acting this way “Western companies seriously reduce the costs of research programs and gain significant competitive advantages.”

    4. According to Kirillov, “along with U.S. pharmaceutical companies and Pentagon contractors, Ukrainian government agencies are involved in military biotechnology activities, whose main tasks are to conceal illegal activities, conduct field and clinical trials and provide the necessary biomaterial.”

    5. The Pentagon, Kirillov pointed out, expanded its research potential not only in terms of producing biological weapons, but also gathering information on antibiotic resistance and the presence of antibodies to certain diseases among the population in specific regions. The testing ground in Ukraine was practically outside the control of the so-called “international community”.

    These findings, amply documented, suggest a vast “legitimized” bioweapon racket reaching the highest levels of the American body politic. There’s no doubt the Russians plan to thoroughly unmask it for the benefit of world public opinion, starting with a War Crimes Tribunal to be set up this summer, most probably in Donetsk.

    An ongoing U.S. bioweapons program in Ukraine was one of the Top Three reasons that led to the launch of Operation Z, side by side with preventing an imminent NATO-managed blitzkrieg against Donbass and Kiev’s desire to re-start a nuclear weapons program. These are Top Three red lines for Russia.

    The strength of the collected evidence may directly correlate with what was largely interpreted as a carefully measured Victory Day speech by President Putin. The Kremlin does not bluff. It will certainly privilege the meticulous presentation of – bioweapon – facts on the ground over grandstanding rhetoric.

    The return of Nord Stream 2

    Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Dmitry Polyaniskiy announced Russia’s demand for an open meeting of the UN Security Council to present further evidence related to U.S. biolabs in Ukraine. Even if the meeting would be vetoed by the U.S., the evidence will be entered by Russia on the UN records.

    These developments provide an extra indication there’s absolutely no space left for diplomacy between Russia and the U.S./collective West, as Polyaniskiy himself suggested when commenting the possible accession of Ukraine to the EU: “The situation has changed after Mr. Borrell’s statement that ‘this war should be won on the battleground’ and after the fact that the European Union is the leader in deliveries of arms [to Ukraine].”

    It gets worse. The next chapter is Finland’s drive to join NATO.

    The Americans gamble that Finland – and Sweden – joining NATO will totally discredit Putin’s Operation Z as having accomplished next to nothing strategically: after all, in the near future, potential U.S. hypersonic missiles stationed in Finland and Sweden will be very close to Saint Petersburg and Moscow.

    Meanwhile, Russian unmasking of the bioweapon racket will drive a toxic section of American political elites to turbo-charge their warmongering. It’s all following a carefully calculated script.

    First, these bioweapon-supervising “elites” ordered the massive Kiev shelling of Donbas in early February. That forced the Kremlin’s hand, pushing it to launch Operation Z.

    We should always remember that the ultimate goal in the U.S. plan of training Ukrainians for war since 2014 was to alienate Germany from Russia – as Germany de facto controls Euroland economically.

    Imperial control of the oceans allows the Empire to strangle Germany at will into subservience by cutting them off from Russian energy – as the British did to Germany in WWII when Britannia ruled the waves. The Wehrmacht could not supply their mechanized army with fuel. Now, in theory, Germany and the EU will have to look to the seas – and total U.S. dependency – for their natural resources.

    The remote-controlled Kiev regime dominated by SBU fanatics and Azov neo-Nazis is making it even harder – by shutting off all natural gas from Russia through Ukraine into Europe, reducing the flow by more than one third.

    That translates as U.S.-enforced blackmail to force the EU to increase the Ukro-weaponizing against Russia. The practical consequences for Germany and the EU will be dire – in terms of shut down industries and cost of home heating and electrical power.

    Russia, meanwhile, will rely on a bolstered Pipelineistan maze to China and East Asia as well as high-speed rail to transport all its natural resources.

    Blowback against the Americans though is not off limits. Stranger things have happened. If gas transit to Europe via Ukraine is totally cut off, there are no alternatives. And that – assuming there are working IQs in Berlin – would open the way for a renegotiation on the future of Nord Stream 2.

    As the head of the Energy Development Center Kirill Melnikov notes, “the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline is practically idle and one of the Nord Stream 2 lines is also ready for operation though the German regulator has not issued permission for its launch yet.”

    That prompted Melnikov to a priceless comment: “If purchases remain the same, Germany will probably need to urgently allow the launch of one of the Nord Stream 2 lines in order to replace the Ukrainian transit route.”

    No one ever lost money betting on the astonishing stupidity permeating EUrocrat decision levels. Even facing economic suicide, the EU is desperate to “abandon” Russian oil. Yet a full ban is impossible, because of energy-deprived Eastern Europe.

    Every impartial energy analyst knows replacing Russian oil is D.O.A., for a number of reasons: the OPEC+ deal; the ghastly divide between Washington and Riyadh; the never-ending JCPOA renegotiation, where the Americans behave like headless chickens; and the crucial fact – beyond the understanding of EUrocrats – that European oil refineries are designed to use oil from the Urals.

    So just when we thought we could enjoy the summer by watching Europe commit hara-kiri, it’s time to stock up on those Aperol Spritz. Get ready for a new hit series, season 1: Inside the American bioweapon racket.

    http://thesaker.is/empire-of-bioweapon-lies--/


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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Ispan wrote:Collected reports of the last 3 days. Briefings, summaries, maps, reports, news, links with lots of videos, a lot of reading

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/15/informe-especial/

    Missing from the translation are some excellent maps.


    That is some epic effort by Ispan and yourself

    Sitreps for the past week. Gives a good account of how the war is going and it's as I suspected. Ukr Kharkov counter-offensive is a dud. MANPADs ineffective. Azovstal and Avdeevka steadily being taken. Belogorovka losses not as bad as the published photos made them seem.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 16, 2022 2:15 am

    Isos wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can defeat Russia – NATO

    Secretary General believes that Russian military operation in Ukraine is not going the way it was planned

    Speaking to the reporters after informal meetings of the military bloc’s foreign ministers, Stoltenberg revealed that the main topics of the discussions were “strong support for Ukraine, the further strengthening of NATO’s deterrence and defense, and the longer-term implications of the war,” including the alliance’s future stance towards Russia.

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    So this meant for average hohol warrior, I guess that they want them to keep fighting

    Nonetheless it probably means VSU will not surrender anytime soon

    I don't think even if Ukraine suffered 100k casualties that they would give up and that's saying something

    Yeah Stoltenberg is really famous for its books about military strategies and its background in military.

    Wait... no he isn't actually. He is just famous for his ability to swollow US spermatozoids.

    Stoltenberg as far as I am aware was never a soldier but a pencil pusher his entire career.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 16, 2022 2:17 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can defeat Russia – NATO

    Secretary General believes that Russian military operation in Ukraine is not going the way it was planned

    Speaking to the reporters after informal meetings of the military bloc’s foreign ministers, Stoltenberg revealed that the main topics of the discussions were “strong support for Ukraine, the further strengthening of NATO’s deterrence and defense, and the longer-term implications of the war,” including the alliance’s future stance towards Russia.

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    So this meant for average hohol warrior, I guess that they want them to keep fighting

    Nonetheless it probably means VSU will not surrender anytime soon

    I don't think even if Ukraine suffered 100k casualties that they would give up and that's saying something

    Yeah Stoltenberg is really famous for its books about military strategies and its background in military.

    Wait... no he isn't actually. He is just famous for his ability to swollow US spermatozoids.

    Stoltenberg as far as I am aware was never a soldier but a pencil pusher his entire career.

    What's funnier is that Polish clown who was saying that NATO will conquer St. Petersburg

    I don't get it. Who are they talking to? Who is this garbage intended to be heard and believed by?

    Is this yet more psychological warfare? Are they counting on Russians getting spooked? It's not going to work.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 16, 2022 2:34 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can defeat Russia – NATO

    Secretary General believes that Russian military operation in Ukraine is not going the way it was planned

    Speaking to the reporters after informal meetings of the military bloc’s foreign ministers, Stoltenberg revealed that the main topics of the discussions were “strong support for Ukraine, the further strengthening of NATO’s deterrence and defense, and the longer-term implications of the war,” including the alliance’s future stance towards Russia.

    “Russia’s war in Ukraine is not going as Moscow had planned. They failed to take Kiev. They are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in the Donbass has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives,” Stoltenberg said.

    So this meant for average hohol warrior, I guess that they want them to keep fighting

    Nonetheless it probably means VSU will not surrender anytime soon

    I don't think even if Ukraine suffered 100k casualties that they would give up and that's saying something

    Yeah Stoltenberg is really famous for its books about military strategies and its background in military.

    Wait... no he isn't actually. He is just famous for his ability to swollow US spermatozoids.

    Stoltenberg as far as I am aware was never a soldier but a pencil pusher his entire career.

    What's funnier is that Polish clown who was saying that NATO will conquer St. Petersburg

    I don't get it. Who are they talking to? Who is this garbage intended to be heard and believed by?

    Is this yet more psychological warfare? Are they counting on Russians getting spooked? It's not going to work.

    Good question.  I am unsure who its for because that doesn't spook the Russians.  Simply because Russians is one of the few with nuclear weapons that can wipe out all those nations off of the face of the earth.

    Is it for internal consumption?  I dunno if Polish people are that dumb to believe it (Alamo will have to be the one to tell us if his fellow compatriots believe it or not).
    Is it for NATO states themselves? They already drank the coolaid and does nothing to repeat nonsense
    Is it bravado to make oneself look strong? Probably but to who?

    There is a lot of nonsense and there may be a form of delusion that these people truly believe what they are saying.  I mean, they would get a wake up call if they tried but it is always bravado of these suits to say such stuff but they are brought down a peg by military commanders who tell them that their actions would start WWIII and that it could turn nuclear hot.


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    Post  lancelot Mon May 16, 2022 2:37 am

    Vann7 wrote:So the reasons is this ,Russia is way behind the west in high tech electronics ,and all this advanced weapons nato like drones ,required advance electronics , and putin have been ignoring completely the development of Russia high tech industry . Most of putin investments for nation development was wasted for two decades since he is in power in pure cosmetic artificial development of russian business , like sports , like luxury parks , luxury roads , olympic avenues ,fast trains , things that
    make russia economy dependent on tourism that was totally negated with the western sanctions.and of course becaue most of russia investment was aimed at transforming russia in a saudi arabia of asia , in hopes to creating a monopoly in world energy.
    Most modern electronics are manufactured in Asia. And drones require things like high resolution CMOS image sensors. Which are only manufactured by a couple of companies in Japan and China. You might have heard that Canada was supplying drone cameras to Turkey. Well they supplied stabilized mounts. But the sensors and probably the lenses are imported for sure. The reason why there are so few suppliers is that you need a dedicated fab to make CMOS sensors, they cost a lot, and to pay for the fab you need to sell tens of millions of sensor units. Only Japanese consumer digital camera manufacturers, like Sony, and Chinese digital security camera manufacturers, like Hikvision, have enough volume to pay for such fabs. You won't find such fabs in the US either. And yet you expect Russia to have them.
    What the US should be able to fabricate are lower resolution IR sensors for weapon systems using older technology. And I would not be surprised if Russia also had similar facilities since those are typically export restricted due to possible military applications. For example I doubt Russian combat helicopters or tanks which use night vision still use systems imported from the West.
    Investment in sports, it depends, if you are paying for public gyms, you are increasing the physical fitness of the population. And that will be important not just to increase overall health of your population but to improve physical fitness for the pool of possible military troops later. Improvements in transportation improve the economy in general. Olympic venues are basically a waste of money though.

    Vann7 wrote:by depending so much in european ,american and their asian puppet electronic giants tech. ... putin ... cut the space budget in half, for totally useless distractions, that  in no way modernize the Russian economy, that so desperately Russia needs, to end russia dependence of the western system, that so much dominates and controls most business in the advanced developed world.
    Never heard about the space budget being cut. If it was cut how was Vostochny developed? Or the serial production factory for Angara built? Yeltsin was the one who cut the space budget to a point Russia had next to no GLONASS satellites in orbit anymore and all new technology developed during his tenure and manufactured rockets were for export. And European consumer electronics industry is dead as well. What happened to Nokia and Ericsson phones?

    Vann7 wrote:So is to blame for russia outdated drone technology?
    -putin is.
    who is to blame for russia third place in space?
    putin is.
    I do not think Putin cares much about details like specific military gadgets. Never was his thing. If the military does not demand it the state does not fund it. It is as simple as that. And for a long time the military did not demand it. Just the military industry. As for Russia being third in space that was going to happen eventually since China keeps moving towards #1.

    Vann7 wrote:who is to blame for all this failure of russia to influence nations away of nato?
    putin is to blame and only him. because he is the one that decide the direction of the nation
    economy. when you have a president that absolutely understand nothing of what the west is doing,
    with so much business power, allowing them to dominate in every important area of nations development, then he himself blocks the true development of its military in many important areas
    and also weakens significantly russia advance business influence, russia softpower, in the world.
    I think Putin understands the strategic problems in the economy. But asking him to understand military and technological issues is a bit much. He is a lawyer with a later degree in economics. If there is anyone who might understand the technological problems in the current government it is probably the current Prime Minister. The fact Putin chose a person like that for Prime Minister clearly shows he at least knows it is a problem even if he personally can do little about it.

    Vann7 wrote:While putin was giving gas discounts to ukraine, to try to lure them "away of nato", the west was providing ukrainians with iphones, digital cameras, internet, advance audio system, computers, and space leadership.
    To get high production of luxury items you need to have enough of a customer base, highly skilled labor, and most countries which do luxury items is because they can't focus on something else. In Russia for historic reasons luxury items were not produced for decades. Trying to kick start an industry like that from zero is pretty much hopeless. As for electronics unless you are located near the main assembly hubs in the Far East you have little chance of competing. It is why the European electronics industry is pretty much dead and the US one is heading there. If the problem is programmers, the Googles and things like that, Russia also has programmers. Otherwise things like Yandex would not exist.

    Vann7 wrote:but because it shows why russia is so weak and limited in their use of drones  and why they so weak
    and limited in protection against them. because they can't mass produce drones without foreign electronics.. for russia dependence on the western technology and its controlled asian economies.
    Neither can the US. Do you think similar cheap US military drones would not use imported electronics? I do not know of a single factory of high resolution CMOS sensors in the US off the top of my head. Probably imported from Japan. And the US at least claims itself to be the #1 economy. With many times over the population of Russia.

    Vann7 wrote:No more orlan-10 drones for russia, if they are under sanctions. what camera they going to use now, soviet  cameras from the 70s? and if they find to copy one from the west, can't mass produce them. doomed either way.  Will not be surprising if this problems with orlan-10 development also exist in their orion drones too.
    What, you think it is will be a problem for Russia to source a couple hundred commercial consumer cameras that Japan manufactures in the millions? Even North Korea can smuggle similar cameras if they want to. Actually using consumer cameras in the drone is brilliance, not stupidity, and a way to get a cheap drone without being reliant on hard to source imports. Russian industry has a lot of problems with electronics imports and substitution, but that is not one of them. I think the main one was electronics for modern engine control like FADEC in jet engines and common rail electronics for diesel engines. The problem with FADEC seems to have been solved but the one with diesel engines I never heard of it being solved. Another issue was with the production of hand held military radios. But those kinds of electronics have always been highly restricted. For example you cannot buy certain kinds of software tunable radios on the open market despite every smartphone basically having one. Those are considered military grade. But the Chinese can make them and do make them. In fact they have been stealing that market from the West because they are way more lax with exports of that kind of tech.

    Vann7 wrote:how vulnerable is russia military without locally produced advance electronics, without locally produced and manufacturer computer processors. artifical intelligence and drones is the future and russia don't make computers, without western controlled technology help.
    This is framed as more of a disaster than it is really. You will see in a couple of years. They banned all sales of certain chemical materials and products to make chips from the West to Russia. But China can also make them in industrial quantities and even Russia has been working on replacing some of those Western imports for a couple of years already. Like semiconductor grade copper. Russia has enough factories to make its own military demand for chips. What they cannot manufacture, can easily be smuggled, at least what I saw thus far. The sanctions will impact the government's plans towards Russification of government civilian computer systems over the next 3 years. But not the military. And AI is pretty much vapor. And Russia already has some technology in that. Both software and hardware. It has AI accelerator chips, used in the Su-35, and advanced AI software research in the private sector.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 16, 2022 3:13 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Good question.  I am unsure who its for because that doesn't spook the Russians.  Simply because Russians is one of the few with nuclear weapons that can wipe out all those nations off of the face of the earth.

    Is it for internal consumption?  I dunno if Polish people are that dumb to believe it (Alamo will have to be the one to tell us if his fellow compatriots believe it or not).
    Is it for NATO states themselves? They already drank the coolaid and does nothing to repeat nonsense
    Is it bravado to make oneself look strong? Probably but to who?

    There is a lot of nonsense and there may be a form of delusion that these people truly believe what they are saying.  I mean, they would get a wake up call if they tried but it is always bravado of these suits to say such stuff but they are brought down a peg by military commanders who tell them that their actions would start WWIII and that it could turn nuclear hot.

    I ultimately don't care

    It's time for Russia to start making plans to survive a nuclear war, and this would involve the evacuation of the civilian population to the countryside in advance and the stockpiling of food supplies

    Then start increasing the amount of tactical nuclear warheads in service

    Such talk even if it's just talk, must have consequences, and scary ones for the other side

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    Post  Erk Mon May 16, 2022 3:52 am

    [quote="flamming_python"]
    sepheronx wrote:
    ...

    It's time for Russia to start making plans to survive a nuclear war, and this would involve the evacuation of the civilian population to the countryside in advance and the stockpiling of food supplies

    Then start increasing the amount of tactical nuclear warheads in service

    Such talk even if it's just talk, must have consequences, and scary ones for the other side

    I agree, it seems highly probable that a nuclear war with NATO is going to happen at some point, you would be crazy not to prepare for it. Civilization must go on regardless, the need is to be practical about it, and not some doomsday worshiping do nothing.

    Shelter, resources, cleanup techniques, underground agriculture, all sorts of things to be taken into consideration.
    Life goes on in Nagasaki and Hiroshima and they had no preparation.

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