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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17

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    Post  Serberus Sun May 29, 2022 2:23 am

    limb wrote:

    I'm more interested in seeing close up images ofdozens of m777s, FH70s, Caesars and PzH2000s destroyed or captured. Who cares about jeeps.

    Also if the Russian government declares a ceasefire and mission accomplished after it completely breaks through in the Donbass, this is would be disgusting and a repeat of the winter war. Right when the Russians were on their way to Helsinki and nothing was stopping them, the Finns sued for peace, the Russians accepted and Finland has declared the war as a victory since then, because they didn't turn communist. For Russia's sake, I hope Putin doesnt entertain any talks of peace for neutrality, since this gives Ukraine the ability to declare propaganda victory of not being dismembered. Finlandization failed once, it will fail twice. All it creates ais a temporarily neutral state which spreads russophobic dehumanizing propaganda.

    I know it’s an insignificant piece of trash but I live in Australia, was waiting for this so I can troll the local morons who wouldn’t be able to point out Ukraine on a map , but suddenly want to go to war with Russia over it 🙂

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun May 29, 2022 2:40 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17 - Page 16 Z-capt10

    Clearly the Ukropi are putting the Polikarpov I-15 back into production...  but they are having some issues with their early prototypes not being fully up to specifications...   Razz

    On the positive side however, they have selected a 4-blade main prop which will clearly provide a performance boost over the twin-bladed original, and they must be planning for a winter campaign given the choice of skis for landing gear rather than wheels (alternatively could be an economy measure?).  

    They have also managed to get the colour scheme correct - blue on top and yellow beneath.  It has great national significance as it represents the tears flowing down the face, and the piss running down the legs...   Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17 - Page 16 Polika10

    I never realized how similar the I-16 was to the I-15. Its almost like they just removed the upper wing and replaced the fixed landing gear with retractable and called it a day.

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    Post  limb Sun May 29, 2022 3:58 am

    Krepost wrote:From Charly:

    The Russian Navy losses 3 months into the conflict:

    Sunk
    Cruiser Moskva: sunk (still unknown cause)
    Large Landing ship Saratov (burnt and sunk at Berdyansk pier)
    Small Serna Class landing ship 9sunk at Sanke Island)

    Damaged
    5 Raptor class assault boats

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    Won't the Saratov be raised and repaired? It was just flooded. It's structurally intact.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 29, 2022 4:48 am

    limb wrote:
    Krepost wrote:From Charly:

    The Russian Navy losses 3 months into the conflict:

    Sunk
    Cruiser Moskva: sunk (still unknown cause)
    Large Landing ship Saratov (burnt and sunk at Berdyansk pier)
    Small Serna Class landing ship 9sunk at Sanke Island)

    Damaged
    5 Raptor class assault boats

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f20/20/39/08/89/28-10711.jpg

    Won't the Saratov be raised and repaired? It was just flooded. It's structurally intact.

    It was older than shit, what's the point of repairing it?

    Let these embarrassments fade away (good thing is that people really are forgetting about them at least in Russia, winning is best way of forgetting dumbassery)



    Also, gotta love how the author left all that free space to add more later, someone is optimistic Cool





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    Post  GarryB Sun May 29, 2022 9:18 am

    Now remember what happened as Medvedev was President. The west tried to screw him and did so with Libya. He remembers.

    All the previous anti Russian BS was directed at Putin so I think Medvedev might have thought he could step in and fix relations with the west and boost trade and improve everything with better relations with the west... and as you mention... Libya, but also South Ossetia and he realised the west isn't anti Putin, they are anti Russian and only a weak sell out like Yeltsen is going to be popular in the west... and the Russian people would not stand for that I don't think.

    Wide eyed hopes for a good future with the west dashed to pieces for both Putin and Medvedev, which is why we are where we are today.

    Not necessary in fog. Wet weather is fine.
    It is called Wilson cloud effect.

    A pressure wave from the explosion is supersonic so it is also a sound wave, but even subsonic airflow can compress moist air and generate clouds... happens all the time at airshows with fighters manouvering hard with clouds appearing over their wings in hard turns where the turbulance compresses the air and the cloud forms.

    Ukraine has now received M 270. This system will be used to target Russian infantry divisions.

    Pantsir should be able to neutralize the M 270's rockets in flight.

    An important escalation which will likely lead to heavier and more regular strikes in western ukraine where these items are going to be filtering through from... the rockets themselves would be a pain in the ass... they would be less effective than Smerch rockets which they already have but the Bradley IFV based tracked chassis might be something new for them to try to operate and maintain... and being tracked it will be much slower than the truck mounted Smerch... I suspect they will have trouble using it effectively... especially in this phase of the war where Russia will be increasing its number of drones and air and artillery strikes...

    No idea , but NATO combined could do it , aside they have a lot of airforce too , that can overwhelm
    any territory in the planet ,including kalingrad and crimea , in case of war .

    HATO has never operated in an area protected by S-300 and BUK let alone S-400 and S-350...

    They refused to fly below 8km in Kosovo because MANPADS were too dangerous... so no attack helicopters and no A-10s... and Pantsir and TOR would lift the ceiling to 15km plus... and once the HATO airpower is defeated then their attack and defence capacity diminishes dramatically... look at how the Afghan forces did after the HATO air power was taken away... HATO forces will be in the same boat... and while they might have lots of drones of their own their air defences against enemy drones is pathetic and in many cases non existent.

    . Even israel in syria with just 2-4 planes can overwhelm pantsirs defenses and destroy them.

    In Syria the wont fly into Syrian airspace and spend US taxpayers dollars on standoff weapons and likely use US satellites to watch Syrian air defence vehicles to try to catch them on their own and even then their attempts to "take out Syrian AD" has been pathetic.

    Russia needs short air defenses specifically made for targeting swarm of drones in the hundreds..

    The irony is that the Russians will get that defence capacity before any member of HATO manages to perfect a swarm drone that is useful enough to need defending from.

    So far it is all just talk.

    How many drones US have or not , is not important ,what their collective alliance ,
    what they can do ,is what Russia needs to be measured .

    If Russia is fighting the entire alliance of HATO then drones wont be as important as tactical nuclear strikes very early on targets that matter... in the US.

    you never see russian airforce sending dozens of su-35s combat planes deep into ukraine airspace ,for fear of they being shot down.

    Targets deep inside Ukrainian territory don't require large numbers of aircraft to hit... standoff weapons are getting the job done just nicely.

    Going back to Syria the core difference is that Israel is launching missiles to hit the air defence systems and their standoff weapons are being shot down in large numbers. Compare that with a strike of Russian standoff weapons where I have seen one claim of a Russian missile being shot down by the Ukrainians... one claim of one missile being shot down after all the thousands of weapons fired...

    I would say Russia is doing rather well... Syria managed to shoot down 71 cruise missiles out of 103 launched by the west... quite a few more were deceived into flying into the ground and a few reportedly hit some buildings that had no air defence systems near them because they were no longer being used... and that was Syria fighting the west with no direct help from Russia and no IADS network to help them... they only got added to the Russian IADS after the Israelis hid an attack behind Russian aircraft and the Syrians accidentally shot down a Russian plane.

    Compared with one claimed missile shoot down...

    Yeah, I think the Russians are doing rather better than you suggest.

    So you guys , no offense , but if you think ,the west is stupid , is because you don't understand what they really doing. the west is incredibly smart , they are geniuses . the only dumb here Russia government ,specially Putin and his goverment.. the West policies are made for the creation of a world empire , while putin's policies is for "stability" of the russian state..

    The mission to Afghanistan was a critical fail in many ways... the most obvious of which is that it proves HATO is not a defensive organisation... the Taliban were no threat to Europe or the US. Secondly it shows that HATO is useless without the US.... when the US decided to leave all their little bitches had no choice and had to leave because they couldn't afford to foot the bill of everything the US brings to a conflict to subsidise Europe. Thirdly, when US air power pulled out the remaining coalition was useless and basically in the hands of their enemy who showed more morals and ethics than the west ever did by not taking advantage and making them really pay like they did to the British when they ran away the last few times they invaded Afghanistan... they tried to do the same with teh Soviets and the west was supporting them to try to create a route but they failed and the US actually tried to study the Soviet withdrawal because they wanted to emulate it to minimise casualties for themselves when they had to leave. They screwed that up of course.

    And then the instant collapse of their allies and the disorder in their running away was a catastrophe highlighted by more wholesale slaughter of friendly afghans at the airport trying to leave the country with them when an ISIS bomb killed some Americans... they just opened fire and murdered all the Afghans present in response and then used a drone to murder a man who was working for him and his children and their friends... yeah merica covered itself in glory there... those geniuses will be getting all sorts of medals and bonus payments for that... Rolling Eyes

    When you have a leader like putin ,with no vision of the future , with no major ambitions ,other than russia as a gas station of the world and the capital of sports. Rolling Eyes and that don't understand how the west manage to influence the world ,with its dominating future looking business , then all this things are possible. Russia is facing their decades of passivity and inaction

    After 22 years of getting the same reaction from the west he is turning Russia towards the rest of the world.... if you look at my posts over the years I have been suggesting this since I arrived on this forum... when I first posted such ideas a lot of Russian members did not trust China and basiclally thought of themselves as European and could not see how such a future could possibly work.... well the natural consequence of western attempts to isolate and contain Russia has led to Russia turning to the rest of the world and I can tell you that the rest of the world will really benefit because in the past there was no alternative to the US led west so it was all about doing the best deal you could with the devil... now there is an alternative to the devil the devil is going to have to up its game which in itself is already better for the world.

    Screw the west... they made their bed and now they can lie in it... the Russians didn't send weapons to the Taliban to kill western soldiers when they were there... before you pissed on their shoes they were letting you send equipment and gear via their territory, but still the accusations about bounties on US soldiers and all sorts of bullshit at a time when US special forces and EU special forces were helping ISIS in Syria to try to kill Russians and pro Assad Syrians defending their own country.

    You are still turning a blind eye to the fact that the west has promoted Nazism in the Ukraine and built bio weapons labs and was offering materials to make nuclear weapons and are currently feeding new weapons into the Ukraine to kill Russian soldiers and any Ukrainians that reject US influence in the country.

    Putin can't ignore this... relations are never going to be the same... and nor should they.

    You saw how apeshit the US went with claims regarding interfering with US elections.... with no proof at all even after extensive investigations.

    Russia needs to plan a future that does not involve the west.

    It is certainly possible that some european countries might realise the US cares about them as much as they care about Ukrainian soldiers and that making their own decisions in their own interests might allow them to keep warm during winter, but if they dont' then that is their problem when the US gets what they want, which is for the EU to cut gas and oil and coal supplies from Russia... even if they wont do the same themselves...

    Europeans are dumb and are easily led... and might even blame Putin in the end, but Putin wont care because trade will be zero with the west and they will only have military options they will not be able to use in fear of the response... because the US will put missiles on Finnish territory and wont care about the Russian response of locating lots of short and medium range nuclear armed missiles to obliterate Finland... that does not hurt the US...

    So the EU is cutting off cheap energy and resources for the US and in return the US will protect the EU from the Russians that are now an enemy because the US made them Europes enemy.... like I said... Europeans are stupid.

    The only problem the west have is GREED , that makes them arrogant and take major huge risk.
    but when it comes to building an empire ,they are already experts on this. Russia in the other side
    is expert in complaining how unfair is the west system. but don't do anything to compete .

    Putin spent the last two decades trying to get Russia into the wests little exclusive club... now they are going to look to the rest of the world for trade partners... the only countries that lose are the west.

    Was Russia able to successfully intercept BM-27, BM-30 rockets in flight?

    Already has... the Russian army systems of TOR and Tunguska are already able to do the job... and BUK can too.

    The lack of drones in the beginning of the conflict was strange. Russian units were shocked at how many experienced drone operators the DNR and LNR had, and how they had improvised with off-the-shelf options. Now, of course, many Russian units are being supplied with off-the-shelf drones for reconnaissance paid for out of people's pockets, but it is still unacceptable.

    Not at all... it is perfectly normal for forces arriving late to a conflict to learn quite a few things from those who have been fighting there for a few years...

    The KLUB-BLA video from a couple of days ago shows it can be much more effective than a Switchblade, and it is supposedly cheap and simple to produce. Where is the Lancet in this conflict? Agreed, there is a need for recon drones, drone swarms, loitering munitions. A big need for cheap kamikaze drones that can hit trenches, something like an upsized KLUB with a 6kg warhead, to use in conjunction with regular artillery.

    People watch videos of kamikazi drones and think they are amazing, but they only take out one target... considering the Orcs have lots of men that need to be killed or captured Kamikazi drones don't make a lot of sense for Russia... as shown on a recent video where a Russian drone was following a unit of M117 guns... the guns stopped and deployed and were clearly going to fire so the drone that was watching them dropped one bomb and they had to bug out and move... that drone carries small bombs in a small fairing under the wing so with one under each wing that would be four bombs the size of a large hand grenade... even with phenominal accuracy you can't take out an artillery unit with its trucks and guns with four hand grenades... but it didn't have to.

    Russia has an air power and artillery advantage so why not use it?

    The drone used one bomb to get the unit moving to cover in a small forested area and then we saw the first volley of Russian artillery landing just outside the forested area... with the video from the drone the enemy forces are going to be pinned there and the volleys of Russian artillery are just going to get more and more accurate till they are wiped out... something no kamikazi drone could achieve... you would literally need one K drone for each man and truck and gun... hundreds.

    Ridiculous.

    In comparison you keep using your recon drone to shell the area and you send in some attack choppers to pick off any trucks that trying to do a runner and then slash through the forest with cannon and rocket fire for good measure...

    Job done properly.

    I'm not assuming anything. Russian soldiers were complaining on telegram about the lack of drones in the first two months. Kadyrov himself stated this.

    Yeah, during their down time in this operation, the Russian soldiers that are not allowed cellphones are complaining to their mates.... right... are you sure they weren't Orc trolls?

    Well I am called a troll if I post colonelcassad, rybar, or alleged complaints of russian soldiers. If you post western propaganda, youre called a nazi troll. If you post russians criticising russian military or government performance, youre called an ura patriot emo marxist troll.

    Alleged complains by alleged Russian soldiers... yeah, that is the basis for a conversation...

    A country owning Uragan, Smerch and Tochka will get nothing perfectly more with M270.
    Maybe the fact that they will have it leads to a conclusion that they are out of rocket artillery either.

    Or the US sending a message that they are sending more and more... but then they had bio weapons labs and were offering help with tactical nukes so Putin already knew that.

    One of the few things I agree with in the video that vann sent, is that ukrainians are putting manequins in trenches as decoys to get the russians to waste ammo. I guess its an obvious low cost solution that the ukrainians are for sure doing en masse. What are possible tactics to counteract this, other than more surveillance? I guess double check the trench with thermals if the figures are actually warm?

    The fact that you can watch for hours and not a single person moves would be a good hint, but perhaps it also suggests they are running out of volunteers to sit in trenches... which is also a good thing...

    I guess Pantsir is used by Russian forces to intercept Ukranian BM-27 and BM-30.

    Pantsir, Tunguska, TOR, and BUK would all be very useful for that... and also Tochka.

    How the hell do ukrainians have so many tochka u missiles laying about in the donbass. Today they fired 3(!!!!) tochkas on the vollage of scatovo to cause terror among civilians. In total ukraine had 800 tochka missiles. The russians destroyed a lot of them. How do they still fire several per day? How are they transported to donbass?

    From the information you have provided yourself and what we know already it is pretty obvious.

    If the Ukraine had 800 missiles where would they have deployed a large percentage of them... considering they were about to launch a large attack on the Donbass area to retake it and eventually follow up with attacks on the Crimea...

    They are not going to stack them all on top of each other in one place and just use them a couple at a time... they would scatter them around teh place as much as possible and get one out at a time for a launch from a single launcher.

    Their real problem would be launcher vehicles because how could you launch one without it...

    Not to mention that over the years they have probably used a few against the Ukrainians of the Donbass regions and in other places as well.

    To move the missiles around the place any truck or bus would do... Saddams forces moved Scuds around in buses in the early 1990s.

    The simple fact is that while they keep launching them they also keep getting shot down over Russian units... they get results against their own civilians and random shots into Russian territory where there were no ready air defences, but the latter came to an end pretty quick too.

    A very capable system of limited use because of Russian artillery and air power dominance and well as their air defence capabilities.

    are there guided shells for this gun?

    Pretty sure there are... but for most targets like an enemy artillery battery in counter battery fire then precision is not so critical with the target being an area target.

    The 120kg HE shells this gun fires spreads lots of fragments over a fairly wide area out to rather long ranges, which makes it good for counter battery fire against towed guns as well as rocket launchers and self propelled guns too.

    But without van , what you will have is a forum ,with people , fanboy tards.. only saying the things
    that are positive for Russia ,and in total denial of russian catastrophic mistakes that repeats again and again and never stop. I was attacked in the forums when i told , that russia was humiliated in the armenian conflict by turkey and azerbaijan.. that they did all they wanted with russia and armenia.

    Blah blah blah... Russia wasn't involved in the conflict in NK... the fact that the Armenians themselves did very much to help the NK is why the Azerbaijanis were relatively successful... if anything that conflict was a great example to countries of how a fighting sprite means nothing if your own government sells you out by sucking up to the west.... Saddam was courting the west when they screwed him... so was Assad and even Gadaffi... and only the Armenian tool and Assad survived...

    majority of ukraine drones are not TB2 but only recon one guiding ukraine artillery. doh.. that fly
    very low , just 1km altitude or bit more. Also TB2 pilots not always fly high altitude ,where they are vulnerable to s-300s ,tors and buks defenses.. a good pilot of tb2 ,will know when to fly low to evade major air defenses , by flying low.. this is what russian attack hellicopters are doing , to evade ukraine buks and s-300s.

    You don't even understand that most drone pilots don't fly the UAVs... UAVs fly on autopilots and are directed to waypoints and to fly at different speeds and altitudes. The pilot monitors the flight and operates the cameras... if they actually flew the planes you could locate them and kill them very easily because of the two way electronic transmissions needed to do that.

    Russia have good weapons , but is the mediocre tactics of russia military in modern wars ,and the small inventories of their good weapons, what kills russian effectiveness in the battlefield.

    Is Russia is winning in ukraine? for sure ,

    Yeah... they are winning because of the overwhelming numbers advantage THAT THEY DON"T CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE GROUND.... their tactics allow a smaller force to pin down and destroy the much much larger force of the Ukrainian military... that is how and why they are winning.... good enough weapons and good tactics which change when needed.

    The only place they are losing is in your head and in western media... neither of which are too worried about reality or truth.... every story is just a shot at Putin and how stupid he is.

    Must be a total moron to be able to do this to the west... China certainly couldn't... the EU hasn't been able to do this to the US either...

    Which brings question why the **** he's still using it...

    Because the sheep he is feeding this crap to don't care about the truth so he doens't need to try very hard...

    And who cares if Vann does not understand what is happening... what difference does it make really?

    The west relies on people being that stupid or that lazy and it works for them, but now a significant part of the worlds population are now turning down a different path... the west does not tolerate rivals... the devil does not share power.

    Agree with you. Constructive criticism is much required. And you are certainly not anti Russian unlike those fellows who are suggesting on SM that they enjoy the sight of dead Russians.

    See now Sujoy, you contradict yourself... you can't say Vann is good for the forum and then say the reason is that constructive criticism is valuable... Vann is an anti Putin troll that would pin every defeat or transgression Russia has every been accused of by the west on Putin and it really gets very boring very quickly.

    Putin is by no means perfect but no other leader on the planet has taking what Putin was given to work with and achieved what Putin has achieved along obviously with all the Russian patriots who helped him along the way to sort shit out.

    Now that he and Russia are in a position to reject the west it is good that they do so because the west is an evil corrupting influence that has destroyed many countries in the rest of the world and to continue to do what they do they will have to continue doing the same to more and more countries.

    If he had written the truth, Twitter would have banned him.

    So why bother posting on Twitter? Why bother reading Twitter if you know this is the normal and acceptable lies it allows.

    I'm guessing they still do have some launchers and missiles hidden in the Donbass and other regions, but they're definately conserving the rest of what they have left by now.

    I would expect that when the AD is shooting down Tochkas in flight that they are alerting their attack helicopters to the location of the origin of the missiles, so making lots of missiles wont help if you run out of launcher vehicles.

    This is the mentality today, western way of thinking is that anything and everything made and fielded in their forces, is superior and leagues above Soviet and Russian made equipment.

    Fact is virtually everything can be destroyed and immobilised in war. Something western minds can't grasp.

    The amusing thing is that sending them a wonder weapon like a towed artillery piece but without the aiming equipment that makes it accurate, just becomes a burden because you need trucks to tow it everywhere and of course slow to deploy and slow get into towable condition means more time spent waiting for steel rain to eliminate you... they would be better with shorter ranged guns that can be set up and taken down faster and towed by smaller lighter vehicles...

    Also, considering import substitution laws are fairly new its going to take some time to get domestic production up and running. The video has no point.

    Import substitution actually started with Russian weapons 8 years ago when the west imposed sanctions on all material that was used in military equipment or could be.

    Why start watching videos Vann posts now?

    Neptune was just a prototype with 1 or two missile available and it seems very likely to have really been used against the Moskva.

    Neptune is Uran with all the Russian bits replaced by Ukrainian bits... the jet engine would be fine but the solid rocket booster to get the surface launched model into the air came from Russia... and quite a few other bits and pieces too.

    Anti ship missiles will be dangerous for Russia. They have also ground attack mode in last versions with monger range that can hit Sevastopol.

    Russia does... Ukraine didn't. It was Russia (via India and Brahmos) that developed land attack software and hardware for their anti ship missiles of all types and integrated them into older systems as well as new ones...

    They already underestimated the threat of ukrainian attacks against their naval assats and lost 1 cruiser, got 2 landing ships damaged 1 landing ship sunk at Snake island and 3 or 4 Raptor boat destroyed.

    There is no evidence regarding Moskva to prove Kiev had anything to do with that, and the landing ship that was scuttled was hit by Tochka most likely... the other boats taken down were tiny little launches... If anything Ukraines naval prowess is what has been overestimated.... they got wiped out for very little results achieved except killing lots of their own troops in what seems to have been a trap on that island.

    Harpoons could add more to that most if they let them use them. They will also venefit from US intel for targeting.

    Capturing some Harpoons might be useful, but otherwise they are just subsonic low flying missiles that new Russian corvettes and other ships are expected to be able to deal with... bring it on... just remember you are opening pandoras box and Harpoons to Ukraine means Yakhont to Iran perhaps...

    yes american military use chinese chips , but ONLY when they can build them too ,US only use chinese chips only for reducing economic cost or their programs ,is just a price saving thing ,and nothing else , this is very different to what russia is doing that is using their declared enemies technology , using american or taiwanese or japan microchips , because russia don't have any other way , is not for economic cost reduction they do it , but for not having such technology in their own army .

    There was a US audit of equipment and material used by teh US military and something like 70 percent of what they use has foreign components inside that they can't just replace very easily or quickly... even something as mundane as modern tent material wasn't made in the US...

    The images of the Moskva clearly show they got hit at mid ship where there was no weapons that could have damage accidentaly the ship.

    The images clearly show it wasn't hit by anything that actually exploded.... the images show a fire... which could have been caused by an S-300 launch where the missile failed to fire its main engine and fell back onto the deck and burned...

    Anti ship missiles rip huge holes in the upper structures of ships when they hit and explode inside a ship and there was zero evidence of that.

    Yeah like they were supposed to build hundreds of t-84 for export and themselves. There is a huge gap between what they say and what they can do. A missile system is way harder to create than a piece of metal like a tank.

    Uran has been in service for decades and was first seen in the mid 1980s...

    I suspect the neptunes they had were just soviet leftovers that they managed to put back in service somehow for a single attack.

    Or even no attack...

    The most useless part of it all was that it was mostly intended to break through the propaganda and show that Russia isn't Mordor or whatever. That was very naive of Putin and the Russian government.

    It worked with the people who actually went, but how much can a small ripple effect the tide... but then who cares... **** the west... it is their loss.

    Some infrastructure was indeed done for the Games, but price tag was too high. Plus, FIFA world cup along with summer Olympic games are premier sport events.

    They transformed a region I had otherwise never heard of... countries in the west have spent a whole lot more and gotten far less out of it.

    Must be true. Ergo, no pictures of this shoot down was released by the Russian defense ministry.

    As Kievs propaganda has shown, pictures would prove nothing... they have about 50 years of ABM SAMs experience with testing and training with all sorts of targets including Tochkas that they could dig up and show to prove an intercept... what would it achieve?

    Russia is not taking part in the propaganda war with Kiev there is no point.

    BTW Vann is obviously a couch potato and thinks money wasted on Sport should be spent on Space... ignoring that sport is probably more relevant to people here on earth than trying to outdo the US and the west in space projects.

    can anyone confirm this ?

    Well it is on Youtube so it must be true... Rolling Eyes

    A resettlement programme for ethnic Russians or Ukrainians should be arranged , in conflict areas , to save their lives . Minorities can be helped into majority areas , by state aid or house exchanges . Businesses can be moved too . Equivalent land can be provided for lost land .

    Why?

    Russia is winning... why should they give up anything at all... their demands should be increasing with time not diminishing...

    Don't like it... well lets continue the talk next week...

    Russia has its own wheat supplies.

    Anyone quoting the Kiev Independent should be suspended.

    From a very tall tree by their testicles...

    I'm not big fan of spending huge money on sports events. Maybe FIFA wc is different as that is very profitable and stadiums are used afterwards

    Well they wont be going to any sports events the west has control of any time soon so having their own and being able to invite perhaps select countries to compete might be an avenue forward for them until the wests grip on world sports is broken...

    Vann is just being retard as usual

    Couch potatoes hate sports...

    They just developed a taste for contactless warfare after Syria, that is all

    When it is that accurate and effective and the enemy seems unable to stop it then why not... it frees your pilots for duties like shooting down Su-25s and Hips and anything else they get into the air.

    For Russia's sake, I hope Putin doesnt entertain any talks of peace for neutrality, since this gives Ukraine the ability

    Pretty sure Putin knows what Zelenskys signature is worth on any agreement... and an American or German or French signature is no better really.

    Judging solely from where Russia is concentrating its forces, and considering Putin is not committing a lot more troops for major pushes, it seems that the goal is to drive out the Ukrainians from the Donbass completely and that the land bridge to Crimea will be kept.

    This conflict has phases... he didn't need to mobilise a lot of troops for this phase but that is not to say no potential future phases will not need a change in posture and force strength or structure.

    But fair enough, it's really up to Russia to show such footage. The Ukrainians have UAVs recording their footage and are publishing it all the time, nothing to stop Russia doing the same thing.

    The Russian troops don't have cellphones, and why show the enemy all the recordings of how many men and items of equipment they are losing and how... the point is to continue and make them keep losing... showing fluff to the west is pointless and probably counter productive...

    They still don't have that many plateforms for kalibr and ships are pretty slow to come back for reloads.

    They could launch tied up at their pier...

    And many are air launched missiles as released from Bears and Blackjacks well inside Russian airspace.

    They better build more kh-101 and kh-59mk2 as well as Oniks for which they have truck based launchers.

    You do understand the Onyx missiles fired from trucks are exactly the same as the Onyx missiles launched from ships and subs...

    I think they should be digging up the old anti ship missiles like Granit and Vulcan and the really old Styx missiles... the latter would not be much use against decent air defence but the Orc air defence is in tatters... the former missiles can use their enormous warheads to take out fortifications or enemy infantry positions and other area targets...

    Essentially using up old stuff.... previously they would keep it because in a serious war they could be used for sinking civilian enemy traffic and other non defended targets, or at very well defended targets to distract the air defences... but most require specialised launchers that are not very mobile and I doubt weak targets will come to them... the newer stuff seems to be very effective anyway.

    IMO they will also build truck launchers for the kalibr. I think the treaty on ground based long range missile is dead now.

    They could put them on existing Iskander trucks...

    I never realized how similar the I-16 was to the I-15. Its almost like they just removed the upper wing and replaced the fixed landing gear with retractable and called it a day.

    AFAIK the I-16 was developed first and the I-15 was put in service next... the I-16 was new in the sense that it had the speed that other biplanes didn't, but the I-15 was more manouverable and had lower takeoff and landing speeds... so they were different enough to use both.

    A later model of I-15 also had retractable wheels too.

    Both had excellent ShKAS rifle calibre machine guns firing at 1,800rpm each, and some had 20mm cannon which were very powerful for the time too.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun May 29, 2022 9:19 am

    Kiko wrote:So following VVP'S talks with Scholz and Macron, Moscow is open to peace negotiations with Kyiv, although the latter's position after Allied territorial gains is untenable and unacceptable. Anyway, Berlin and Paris will now exert pressure on Volodymyr for a compromise despite his extremely weak position as on a defensive right now.
    Besides, Kremlin should put forth the question of who will take care of Warsaw's extreme ambitions over Western Ukraine.

    The situation seems to be even more fun.
    The last few days brought us as follows :
    It turns out that for a month, Germany de facto ceased any serious weapon supply to 404, delivering ammo and light arms only in laughable numbers.
    Macron said, that 404 accession to the EU would be possible in "a few decades".
    The prime minister of the Netherlands talked to Snuffy, no idea what he said to him in detail - but after the conversation, Snuffy was scattered to pieces and said something like "if the EU doesn't want us, they should have to say that openly!".
    That is how the situation is evolving folks.

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Most prices in hryvnia/griven (ГН), still. Took about a year for Crimea to fully ruble-ize back again to its roots so that's not too strange. Russian, their native language, rules tho.

    After devaluation in Poland, which erased four digits from notes, it took a decade for the people to stop recalculating "new PLN". The question "how much is that in old PLN?" was asked even longer. People have habits.

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sun May 29, 2022 9:41 am

    Whatever remains from Ukraine should be in the Russian sphere of influence. Progressively all transactions should be moved in Rubles and no grain should leave Ukraine from a non Russian controlled port. Money for grain should be paid directly in Rubles only to Russia. Every country gets grain should write a paper that states that supports Russia's right to defend its people in this conflict. No mercy.

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sun May 29, 2022 9:57 am

    Vann7 wrote:


    yeah to be happy ? , with the the artillery strikes in your cities..  by the ukies , with the long range
    artillery being supplied by nato targeting your cities and with russian navy in the button of the sea ,    Rolling Eyes



    Could you make a nice avater picrture please ?


    I read two line before I realised it is an useless post.

    Make something like hte F avatar, that is very usefull to avoid wasting time.

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 29, 2022 10:12 am

    Is it just me or could those metal fairings over the ATGM tubes on the terminator be the right shape to replace those two ATGMs with one of those new rocket pod boxes of 10 x 80mm rockets... a total of 20 x 80mm rockets that are laser guided would be suitable for dealing with a wide range of targets on the battlefield...

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    Post  limb Sun May 29, 2022 10:29 am

    The reason russia needs aircraft to fly deep into ukrainian territory is to detect with FLIR ukrainian convoys and artillery on the move.


    I also am convinced that sweden will dump most of its BILL ATGMs. Im surprised we dont see many swedish weapons in ukrainian hands given that sweden is one of the most russophobic countries in the world.
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    Post  Hinex1988 Sun May 29, 2022 10:50 am

    ⚡Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

    ▫The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

    💥High-precision long-range missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed a large arsenal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at an enterprise's storage site in Krivoi Rog, Dnipropetrovsk Region.

    💥During the day, high-precision air-based missiles have hit 3 command posts, 25 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration and 2 artillery batteries at firing positions.

    ▫1 Osa-AKM anti-aircraft missile launcher near Nikolaevka, Donetsk People-s Republic, 1 air target detection and tracking radar near Boguslavka, Kharkov Region, and 5 ammunition depots near Krasnogorovka, Pokrovskoe, Donetsk People's Republic, Severodonetsk, Lugansk People's Republic, and Bezrukov, Kharkov Region, have been destroyed.

    ✈💥 Operational-tactical, army and unmanned aviation have hit 2 command posts, as well as 53 areas of concentration of AFU manpower and military equipment.

    ▫The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 300 nationalists and up to 50 AFU military and special equipment.

    💥Russian air defence means have shot down 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force near Novogrigorovka, Dnepropetrovsk Region, in mid-air.

    ▫4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been shot down near Malye Prokhody, Pitomnik in Kharkov Region, Mirolyubovka in Dnepropetrovsk Region and Nizhnyaya Krynka in Donetsk People's Republic.

    ▫1 Ukrainian Smerch multiple rocket has been intercepted near Malaya Kamyshevakha, Kharkov Region.

    💥Missile troops and artillery have hit 62 command posts, 596 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 52 positions of artillery and mortar units of Ukrainian nationalists.

    📊In total, 183 Ukrainian aircraft and 128 helicopters, 1,049 unmanned aerial vehicles, 325 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,309 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 447 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,722 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,270 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

    #MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
    @mod_russia_en

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 29, 2022 11:07 am

    The reason russia needs aircraft to fly deep into ukrainian territory is to detect with FLIR ukrainian convoys and artillery on the move.

    I would say special forces on the ground are probably more effective at that, along with human intelligence of course... there are probably a few within HATO and pro western forces who are not happy supporting nazis in europe who know exactly what Kievs forces are doing and don't like the west covering that up too...

    They also have satellite equipment too.

    The first thing they spent money on was not the best rifles or tanks or fighter planes... the first thing they spent money on was C4IRSTAR, so I would think they are ok in that regard... in Syria they seemed to have no problems finding weapon caches and fuel and ammo depots not to mention enemy troop concentrations...

    Giving away the position of a weapon dump can be totally accidental too.

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    Post  psg Sun May 29, 2022 11:12 am

    GarryB wrote:Is it just me or could those metal fairings over the ATGM tubes on the terminator be the right shape to replace those two ATGMs with one of those new rocket pod boxes of 10 x 80mm rockets... a total of 20 x 80mm rockets that are laser guided would be suitable for dealing with a wide range of targets on the battlefield...

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    Yes, would allow a mixture of ATGMs, laser 80mm rockets.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun May 29, 2022 11:37 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Also, gotta love how the author left all that free space to add more later, someone is optimistic Cool



    with Kuz in the background... just west's wet dreams

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 29, 2022 11:38 am

    They also said they had wireless chargers inside the new rocket pods that allow Rocket deployed drones to be launched... the ability to loft a camera up into the air to see over cover.

    The 122mm rocket pod versions with maybe 5 launch tubes in the same volume/dimensions as the 10 shot 80mm pod could allow a much heavier rocket to be carried with laser guided anti armour models possible or perhaps a drone that could also be a diving top attack anti vehicle weapon...

    They could modify the ATGM launch positions to allow other types of missiles to be carried (MANPADS and different ATGM types) as well as these rocket pods too...

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    Post  Arrow Sun May 29, 2022 11:50 am

    Another T-62M is on the way

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    Post  Mir Sun May 29, 2022 1:11 pm

    Those T-62's are on their way just in case the Leopard 1 turns up! Wink

    They are also good a demolishing buildings >> Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Sun May 29, 2022 1:11 pm

    Russia is sure introducing the T-62Ms in a pretty public way

    We know that there are a bunch of other vehicle classes operating that no photos have surfaced of during delivery, and often not until much later during operation. And those are just the weapon systems we know about, there are others I'm sure that haven't been photographed or publicized yet at all.

    What I'm thinking is that Russia is deploying the T-62s with one hand, while the other hand will be busy feeding in some unmanned T-72 robots pirat

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    Post  Ispan Sun May 29, 2022 1:58 pm

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/29/noticias-de-la-guerra-29-05-2022/

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    Post  Arrow Sun May 29, 2022 2:04 pm


    T-72A in Melitopol.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun May 29, 2022 2:05 pm

    TOS-2 Tosochka is also being used in Ukraine.

    [url= https://t.me/intelslava/30130]https://t.me/intelslava/30130[/url]

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 29, 2022 2:12 pm

    Ispan wrote:https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/29/noticias-de-la-guerra-29-05-2022/

    War news 05/29/2022 - special report
    29 May, 2022 Zhukov

    General situation of the last two days:

    Interactive map from 20 to 28 May

    https://geoworld .space/ukraine/

    Link with maps with the positions of the Ukrainian forces as of 25 May

    https://t.me/poisk_mil/3449

    If the information is correct, the units of the 17th Tank Brigade, the 58th Motorized infantry Brigade, the 111th and 118th territorial defense brigades, the national battalion "Donbass" as well as the 4th, 27th brigades and the 15th regiment are threatened with encirclement on the territory of the LNR

    Krasny Liman released. Advance on Severodonetsk where a Ukrainian territorial brigade fled allowing the advance inside the residential area. Ukrainian counterattack of a battalion on the southern front (Kherson), repulsed. Attack with a tank and infantry battalion on the central front (Zaporozhe-Donetsk) repulsed with heavy losses.

    The relentless hammering of missiles, long-range rockets, artillery and aviation continues every day, inflicting hundreds of personnel casualties and dozens of losses on armored personnel carriers, vehicles and artillery on Ukrainians every day.

    Friday 27 May - Boris Rozhin

    1- Svitlodarsk.
    The fighting continues in the Novoluganskoye area. Mironovskaya GRES has been released. There are battles for the Svetlodarsk CHPP. The enemy is preparing to retreat to positions southeast of Artemivsk.
    2.
    Avdiivka.
    Fighting continued in the area of Novoselka-2, Novobakhmutovka, New York and Krasnogorovka. Our troops have a slight advance of 1-2 km
    . 3.
    Zolotoe.
    Fighting continued in the Toshkovka area, as well as in Kamyshevakha.
    The Gorskoye-Zolotoye fortified area, in fact, already hangs only has one road, which is also exposed to artillery fire.
    4.
    Soledar.
    Fighting continues north of Soledar, near the Artemivsk-Lisichansk highway. The enemy confirms the full control of the fire of our troops over the section of the road from Belogorovka to Berestyanoye, but declares that it is still possible to break through and even move away from Severodonetsk. South of Soledar, the front approached 10-15 km from Artemivsk.
    5.
    Severodonetsk.
    The fighting takes place directly in the city, near the bus station and the Mir hotel. The enemy confirms that the city is covered on 3 sides. The bridges leading to the city from Lisichansk cannot be fully used, which means that the total supply of the group in Severodonetsk has already been disrupted. Today there was talk that the order to withdraw from Severodonetsk may be given. It is also worth noting the intensification of the offensive of our troops near Svetlogorsk.
    6.
    Artemivsk.
    The enemy continues to use Artemivsk as the main supply center for the Severodonetsk group, and actively prepares the city for defense and fighting on the streets.
    The fighting continues in the Pilipchatino area and near Novaya Kamenka. Up to 2 Ukrainian battalions were deployed in Artemivsk, which are used in the battles along the Lisichansk-Artemivsk highway and east of Artemivsk.
    7.
    Krasny Liman.
    The city is actually taken, although the enemy claims that there is still resistance on the southeastern outskirts. Moreover, the troops bypassing Krasny Liman had already reached the Seversky Donets River.
    The group defending Krasny Liman suffered heavy losses. The nextimportant defensive line will be near Slavyansk.
    8.
    Kharkiv.
    Positional battles in the area of Liptsa, Ternovoye, Rubezhnoye. Both sides operate with rather limited forces here.
    9.
    Izyum
    Positional battles in the area of Kamyshevakha, Kurulka, Dolgenky.
    The enemy is waiting for the Russian Armed Forces to launch an offensive on Slavyansk.
    10.
    Marinka, Nikolaev, Kryvyi Rih, Nikopol, Odessa - without significant changes.

    They report that fighting is currently taking place near Raigorodok, located between liberated Krasny Liman and occupied Slavyansk. The information was provided by the police representative at the northern Slavyansk checkpoint.

    In addition, local residents report that nationalist artillery has been actively working from Slavyansk all morning, trying to contain the offensive of our troops.



    May 28 - Rybar recap

    In the Kharkov region, the offensive of the Ukrainian army towards the border with Russia has stopped. Ukrainian units suffered significant losses at Ternovoy.

    Russian forces are fighting for Vogorodichnoye and are making suppressive fire on the firing positions in the area of Raigorodka. Ukrainian Sukhoi Su-25 shot down in Barvenkovo.

    Detachments of the Allied forces are advancing on the northern and western outskirts of Severodonetsk. Unconfirmed reports about the beginning of the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the city.

    The Orekhov in the Zaporozhye region a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter shot down.

    Ukrainian counterattacks

    Старше Эдды

    About Ukrainian offensives and counteroffensives. Now they will try to advance at least somewhere in order to: a) try to get at least some media success and b) distract our army from closing the Severodonetsk —Lisichansk cauldron. You should not panic and worry about this. On the contrary, such offensives are usually poorly coordinated and have insufficient forces, and they bring more problems to those who try to organize them. For a full-fledged offensive, Ukraine currently does not have enough forces, and most importantly, any offensive takes them out of the air defense system, which provides at least some protection, into the field, where they are covered only by short-range systems and MANPADS (portable anti-aircraft missiles), which greatly facilitates their detection and increases vulnerability to aviation with all the consequent consequences. The consequences, by the way, have already happened in similar situations: the assembled groups were attacked from the air so that the offensive was interrupted.

    Underestimating the enemy, however, is also not good: they will try to increase their forces with the support of NATO, so that they can do something more substantial later. You have to be prepared for this. At the same time, you need to understand that our troops are not stopping, they are continuing their offensive and preparing for the upcoming ones, as well as preparing new forces.

    In the near future, Kiev will need a lot of noise in the press and social networks to distract attention from what is happening in the Donbass, so peremoga will be removed from any occasion, regardless of its actual content.



    1) Southern Front – Kherson

    In the direction of Nikolayev, Russian units repelled the Ukrainian offensive on Davydov Brod. Ukrainian forces lost up to 80 killed and wounded, as well as about 10 armored personnel carriers and tanks.

    The next day it was reported in more detail and photographic evidence, another "peremoga" for Ukrainians

    https://t.me/HersonVestnik/4649

    "As a result of the "successful" operation, the nationalists lost 20 BMP and BTR armored tanks, one MI-8 helicopter and 210 men will not return to their families. In addition, about 70 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers are where they fell and no one is trying to recover them, well, the compensation to the families of the victims has already been distributed by the high officials"

    https://t.me/south0wind/2735

    In the attempt to attack in the Nikolayev direction, near the village of Davydov Brod, the Armed Forces of Ukraine advanced with a reinforced battalion tactical group consisting of units of the 28th mechanized brigade, the 35th Marine Brigade and the 63rd mechanized brigade of the reserve corps.

    The main task was to try to capture a bridgehead on the right bank of the Ingulets River and thereby create conditions for further progress towards Novaya Kakhovka in order to isolate from support the units of the Russian Armed Forces in the northern part of the Kherson region.

    Therefore, once again, the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered significant losses in the battles for the river crossing, which was clearly not a reconnaissance battle. Most likely, the Ukrainian command misjudged the opposing forces, believing that only the reserve battalions of the DPR are located in that area.

    2) Central Front - Zaporozhe

    The next day (May 29) the results of the Ukrainian attack on Malinovka were reported:

    "Yesterday, the armed forces of Ukraine from 09.00 tried to hit the flank of our group in the direction of Gulyaypole-Malinovka with one or two battalion tactical groups. Most likely, the units were formed on the basis of the 17 Tank Brigade re-equipped with T-72 tanks sent by Poland.

    Several infantry groups advanced with the support of tanks and BMP armor. They unsuccessfully tried to attack because of the intervals between the Russian positions. The fighting continued into the evening.

    The enemy had no tactical success. Confirmed enemy losses: 30 tanks, BMP 11, BTR 2, Grad 2 Rocket Launchers, killed and prisoners - more than 300. The figures are very serious, but we also suffered casualties, 15 dead and 11 wounded, without data on the lost material.
    (note: the result may seem very disproportionate and the Russian casualties will be higher than indicated, but it must be borne in mind that as always, the enemy advances without air cover, under the hammering of Russian aviation and artillery and attacks defended positions and the crews of Russian tanks are much superior in skill)

    Offensive in Donbass: the situation in eastern Ukraine by the end of May 28, 2022 – Rybar

    ▪ In the north of the Kharkiv region, the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces towards the Russian border has stopped. Ukrainian units suffered losses and retreated from the Ternovoye – Guryev Kazachov front line

    ▪ After the successful assault of Liman, the units of the Russian Armed Forces are fighting for the Bogorodichnoye for the purpose of encircling parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Svyatogorsk and the creation of a springboard for the offensive on Slavyansk from the north. Artillery attacks the positions of Ukrainian formations near the center of the city Raigorodka.

    ▪ In Severodonetsk there is fighting: units of the Allied forces entered the city from the northern and eastern directions. Closer to the evening, unconfirmed reports appeared about the beginning of the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the city, but this is not yet about full control of the city

    ▪ To the north of Popasna, clashes continue to surround a group of Ukrainian armed groups in Zolotoy Andgorsky. Local sources report on the advance of the units of the Allied Forces in Kamyshevakha and the control of about 40% of the population

    ▪ In Avdiivka there are positional battles and attempts by units of the DPR People's Militia to reach the outskirts of the city from the northeast.
    Sunday 29 May, summary of Strelkov

    Briefly about the situation at the front

    There are no significant changes in the most important strategic direction - south of Izyum. The operation has been suspended for the time being, which gives the enemy time to prepare new fortifications and reserve positions in case the offensive in Slavyansk-Barvenkovo resumes.

    The resistance in Liman is close to the final elimination. The city is taken completely or by 90% (the difference is already insignificant, so we can confidently talk about the liberation of the Liman) and now it makes sense for the enemy to hold the bridgehead (considering that all the bridges in the rear are blown up) only until all or most of the troops are evacuated from it. For our troops, it makes sense to prevent this evacuation in every possible way and try to finish off the enemy, preventing him from withdrawing manpower for the Seversky Donets.

    The information received is contradictory. On the one hand, there are claims that all roads have been cut by our troops or are kept under constant fire control. On the other hand, the enemy claims to unblock the Artemivsk-Lisichansk highway. I don't have any reliable information about the state of the matter now. In general, the enemy continues to hold its positions in the "pocket" in the Lisichansk-Zolotoe area, and this "pocket" is not yet "closed".

    In Severodonetsk, street battles are taking place directly inside the city with the gradual advance of the Russian Armed Forces and the "allies" (including the "Kadyrovites"). However, most of the city is still controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It is not yet clear whether the enemy is withdrawing its units to the western bank of the Seversky Donets or not. But most likely, the enemy will try (if circumstances allow) to develop the same situation as in Popasnaya and Rubizhne, prolonging the fighting on the streets as much as possible.

    Near Avdiivka, the offensive of the DPR Armed Forces has been suspended since yesterday. The units consolidate the conquered terrain, being subjected to continuous enemy artillery attacks and repelling local counterattacks.

    On all other fronts, there are no general changes. I am waiting for the confirmation or denial of yesterday's information about new attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson direction on a broad front (Davydov Brod-Belogorovka-Lozovaya-Andreevka).
    I also do not have any more information about the attack on the border checkpoint near the settlement of Zernovo in the Kursk region and the losses suffered by the border guards there.

    Kharkov sector

    Informe de Older Eddy https://t.me/s/vysokygovorit , Sunday 29 May, 10:00 hours

    "About the fighting near the border of the Belgorod and Kharkiv regions. The Ukros tried to take back the village of Ternovoe, but they still paint it on their maps as controlled by them, which is not true. All attempts to evict us and gain a foothold in the village ended unsuccessfully for the Ukrainian side.

    At the same time, Kiev artillery shelled both Ternovoye and the Russian village of Sereda. He also fires 152-mm shells. In the direction of Belgorod, the enemy also failed to break through the defense of the Russian troops, so in retaliation they continue to cannonade the unfortunate villages of Zhuravlevka and Nekhoteyevka.

    In the battle of Ternove, the Ukrainian Forces use tanks that function as "nomadic" artillery pieces (that is, they use guerrilla tactics of firing and changing positions). They come out of a position in the open, make a shot and turn back to take cover behind the ridge again. To the credit of our gunners, I will say that one of those tanks was hit by a direct hit from a 152 mm shell. In addition, the next shot hit the BMP that came to its aid. Right now, an enemy tank is hovering nearby, which occasionally fires towards the village from the maximum distance.»

    Central Front - possible counterattacks of the enemy – Rybar

    Counterattacks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are still possible in the Zaporozhe direction
    Despite the destruction of the materiel of two battalions, including a tank battalion, in the Malinovka area on May 15 (apart from the losses suffered yesterday, May 28), the Ukrainian command is conducting a hasty recovery of damaged armored vehicles on the battlefield, and also expects deliveries of up to 30 Polish T-72 tanks. According to a number of indications, the 1st separate Tank Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is already operating at the address, which has reinforced the 128th mountain assault brigade and the 45th artillery brigade of the reserve corps, which are already receiving American M777 howitzers.
    If at least somewhere in the defense of the Russian troops decreases, the general staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can strengthen this address with one of the mechanized brigades formed in the western part of the country, the 65 or 66, to achieve military victory local as necessary to the politicians in Kiev.

    At the base of the 184 training center, in Starichakh is forming a new 66th separate mechanized brigade of the reserve corps.

    Currently, there is an accelerated recruitment of personnel through forced levies in the nearby regions.

    Infantry units under the guidance of NATO instructors are trained in light weapons combat, the use of armored vehicles and unmanned aerial vehicles supplied by Western countries.

    The artillery crews of the 66th Separate Mechanized Brigade are taking courses on the use of D-44 anti-tank guns and M777 howitzers.

    In order to save personnel from missile attacks of the Russian Armed Forces, units partially live in the vicinity of training centers. When an alarm is raised, people run from the deployment area to equipped shelters nearby.

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