GarryB wrote: Its depressing that Russia allowed these weapons to be brought in and now cannot effectively deliver counter battery fire. They knew these weapons were coming. Yet it seems they were not taking them seriously. There should be small groups dedicated to counter battery fire. If they cannot wipe these out a lot of Russians will die needlessly and this war will stretch out much longer
It is depressing how much illegal drugs enter western countries every day... they know it is coming but they never stop it all.... maybe the west needs something like a war on drugs and that will stop it completely... I mean the laws against murder have meant no one gets murdered any more in the west because obviously everyone obeys the law and when decisions are made then things happen.
Destroying things in transit prevents their use on the front line but that M777 battery that was attacked would still be in tact if they didn't get their guns...
No reason to wander around the battlefield if they don't have big heavy guns to drag around with them.
When they do get artillery like that... civilian areas are easier to find on a map than Russian positions so it will be the civilians that suffer from US and western support... hopefully they will remember that moving forward.
what putin don't understand ,is that the west see softy polite people , as insecurity and weakness , and this encourage them to hit russia harder , because they know putin will do nothing.
Putin is the leader of a country... he is not a gang leader who has to scare his opponents to keep them off his turf.
If the west are so dumb that they see politeness and manners as a weakness then that is their loss... Russia is now going in a new direction and the west will suffer because of that... but you are making the rookie mistake of thinking the west is the whole world... the rest of the world deals with shit from the west all the time and they will be watching and learning that Putin means what he says and can be trusted... can't say that about any western leader... even if they are sincere like Germany wanting cheap gas, their views can be overruled by their US overlords or the other underlings in Brussels.
Your complaints about Putin is what has saved Russia from better relations with the west and there fore even more damage when they turned on Russia eventually. Putin will now lead Russia to trade and cooperate with the rest of the world and that is going to seriously weaken the west as fewer countries use US dollars because they want a free hand to also trade with China and Russia and India etc etc... which will destroy the US dollar... so where does US power go when their bribes have to be in Euros or Yuan or even Rubles?
This war in ukraine will have not been possible if a lstrong leader in power in russia .
and that revolution to overthrow yakunovych not allowed to happen.
Just because you say that it does not make it true... western regime attempts can be stopped... Erdogan is proof of that, but Wierd Al Yankovich was never pro Russia to begin with... he only took the Russian offer because it made sense and was nothing to do with any friendship brotherly or otherwise towards Russia.
They essentially took out someone who could have been their guy if they weren't so tight with the funds... add the 5 billion they spent on the overthrow and the 40 billion in aide they are giving them now and they could have made an offer to Kiev that he would have jumped over fences to sign...
And Crimea would still be part of the Ukraine...
They fucked up.
They can very simply be modified , to allow natural weathering to cause oxidation of small internal components , by ingress of moisture , over time . So they have a shelf life . This can actually be done for all ordnance . So no need to go and collect them afterwards .
They still represent a threat... kids and animals etc etc... stupid teenagers... adults with evil intent...
This is currently their job. Sitting around and waiting for the Donbass cauldrons to be formed/cleared. Keeping an eye on the enemy.
They are lucky that the enemy is dumb enough to attack them, otherwise the whole situation would get pretty boring.
Indeed... this is the period of the war when drones become a bit more useful as you can probe enemy positions and mark firing points and attack isolated groups or expose personel in constant pin prick attacks to wear them down like a sniper would.
The T.62M is like "a catapult" because of its lack of a real aiming and a fire control system.
The T-62M is fifties tank, a real medieval war machine.
The places it would be used there are no enemy tanks, and you don't need a fire control system for stationary targets.
He costs more than a T-72 or a T-90 because of its engine and its 4 men crew (instead of 3) and its logistics, which need to be activated....
It costs nothing because it is already paid for... taking them out of storage and donating them saves money on maintenance and storage... freeing up space for later model tanks as they get replaced in service by newer vehicles.
And ahh..., yes: "the T-62 it could be good for second-line tasks to avoid, for example, that Ukrainian tractors take away half of the Russian vehicles ... In the front line, it would only be a target".
These are for use by Donbass and Ukrainian volunteers, the Russians already have T-72s which they are trained on and are familiar with.
The Donbass volunteers just need simple tanks that have armour and a gun... a T-62 ticks those boxes as much as an old model T-72 would... sending T-62s means T-72s remain for other uses like being made into terminators or robot tanks with spare parts compatible with the T-72 and T-90 models they currently use.
I don't want to make humor, these and more interesting facts circulate here, where I come from. So, there is someone who knows how long it takes to turn 360° the T.62M's tower (and how it relates to the tower of other tanks)? And how? Definitely pedaling, I bet, or with a water mill....
If the threat is serious the commander can order the gunner to turn to engage but also the driver to turn the entire vehicle to speed up traverse if needed.
I think you miss the things Russia is doing. Did Putin have a hand in Trumps election? Brexit? BLM? Ultraright in the west? Mass immigration to the EU from Africa?
No evidence for any of those things... they spend millions of dollars and four years searching for proof that Putin got Trump elected and came up with nothing... no evidence for Brexit or BLM either and the ultra right in the west are the same sort of nazis in ukraine... not people Putin would work with.
Mass immigration to the EU was the Syrian conflict and the western attack on Libya which Russia and Putin actually worked against.
The biggest threat to the west is the actions of the west.
They finished shooting themselves in the foot and are working their way up their own legs.... why stop them?
Meanwhile, Kiev's greatest achievement today was killing two elementary school teachers in Donetsk.
American influence perhaps... school rampages...
The main reason russian performance has been underwhelming is the colossal failure of its airforce.
It is perfectly normal for western experts and their prodogy to think everything needs to be done with air power and when it is not done the western way then it must be the wrong way.
Artillery and guided missiles are doing the lions share of the work and are being very efficient at it... the west can continue to complain that their surrogates are being cleaned up on the battlefield to justify their enormous investment in their own military forces that wouldn't last 10 minutes against the Ukraine Russia went up against.
they should definitely come out with an explanation for the cockpit mounted GPS. Its just fodder for propaganda. Also, not sure why they always show footage of lofted launching of rockets.
Why does a satellite navigation receiver in an aircraft need an explaination?
Lofting rockets at targets shows they are not the dumb Su-25s from the 1980s that can direct fire but not flight profile shape its unguided weapon launches because now it has CCIP and can loft rockets to fire them from much greater ranges and operate in greater safety from ground fire from the target.
Su-25s were popular because direct fire rockets are a very effective way of dealing with targets on a battlefield and because they used to be direct fired they were quite accurate or should I say accurate enough because Rockets are an area weapon you would use against troops or unarmoured vehicles where direct hits are not needed.
Current Su-25s are rather more sophisticated and have a wide range of guided weapons... but the dumb bombs and rockets get the job done.
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