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    Post  Belisarius Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:50 am

    anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

    06/07
    Russian Su-35 fighter has shot down 2 Mi-24 helicopters and 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force in a single aerial battle near Nikolaevka and Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2619

    07/07
    Russian Su-35s fighters have shot down: 1 MiG-29 of Ukrainian air force near Nikolaev and 1 Su-25 near Adamovka in Donetsk people's republic.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2624

    08/07
    Russian Aerospace Forces' Su-35s have shot down MiG-29 and Su-25 aircraft of Ukrainian air force near Lazarevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2653

    09/07
    Su-35S and MiG-31BM aeroplanes of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down 2 Su-25 of Ukrainian Air Force near Bereznegovatoye and Chervonaya Dolina (Nikolayev region).
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2666

    10/07
    Russian Aerospace Forces' Su-35s fighters have shot down in the air 2 Su-25 assault aircraft of the Ukrainian air force near Barvenkovo, Kharkov Region, and Troitskoye, Donetsk People's Republic, as well as 1 MiG-29 near Krasnopolie, Donetsk People's Republic.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2677

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:00 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Mindless_drone wrote:....They are pulling t62s out of storage. Probably cause they realised they are losing to much frontline stuff...

    Had you actually bothered to keep up you'd knew that T-62s are delivered to Republican troops

    As for them losing some tanks that's local issue not Russian Army one

    They will always get more





    Most of the destroyed tanks are actually just damaged anf will be repaired. Once they gain terrain they will recover them easily. Thry will also capture ukrainian tanks.

    2 years after the end of the war, once they repaired all of them, they will have more tanks than at the start of the war.

    Ukraine had a stock of 1000-1500 tanks.

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    Post  jhelb Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:00 am

    Ukros are continuing the fight only to ensure they receive western weapons which they can sell to Russian forces for thousands of dollars.

    Isos wrote: Once they gain terrain they will recover them easily. Thry will also capture ukrainian tanks.
    Razz Razz Razz You must be drunk. Why will they capture antiquated Ukrainian tanks that's worth less than scrap? They are simply blowing these tanks apart with ATGMs.
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    Post  mnztr Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:19 am

    PhSt wrote:It would be nice to capture one or two HIMARS and have them sent to China and Iran for inspection. I know HIMARS is inferior to its Russian analogues but photos of this system being studied by Chinese and Iranian engineers would be a powerful PR blow to the NATzO regime

    There is nothing special about HIMARS, Russia has always been ahead in this sort of weapon since pretty much WWII. Everything the US has done has been in response to Russia. the ultimate development currently is Iskander and it outranges the Himars by over 200km. Only difference is Russia uses a wider variety of launchers. Which kinda makes more sense then combining all these capabilities on one platform.

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:27 am

    jhelb wrote:Ukros are continuing the fight only to ensure they receive western weapons which they can sell to Russian forces for thousands of dollars.

    Isos wrote: Once they gain terrain they will recover them easily. Thry will also capture ukrainian tanks.  
    Razz Razz Razz You must be drunk.   Why will they capture antiquated Ukrainian tanks that's worth less than scrap? They are simply blowing these tanks apart with ATGMs.

    T-80 and t-64 are very good tanks and they can easily apply the upgrade kits developed for their own tanks on them. They can keep tge best t-80 and give the t-64 to Donbass forces.

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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:41 am

    Isos wrote:
    jhelb wrote:Ukros are continuing the fight only to ensure they receive western weapons which they can sell to Russian forces for thousands of dollars.

    Isos wrote: Once they gain terrain they will recover them easily. Thry will also capture ukrainian tanks.  
    Razz Razz Razz You must be drunk.   Why will they capture antiquated Ukrainian tanks that's worth less than scrap? They are simply blowing these tanks apart with ATGMs.

    T-80 and t-64 are very good tanks and they can easily apply the upgrade kits developed for their own tanks on them. They can keep tge best t-80 and give the t-64 to Donbass forces.

    I wonder what a proper modernisation of the T64 would be like unlike the failed attempts by Ukraine resulting in the Bulat which was overweight and underpowered.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:04 am

    Belisarius wrote:anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

    06/07
    Russian Su-35 fighter has shot down 2 Mi-24 helicopters and 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force in a single aerial battle near Nikolaevka and Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2619

    Yes, but I noticed this one in particular, it is the only one where the Su-35 is referred to in the singular with multiple targets. This implies that the one pilot downed all three.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:47 am

    Belisarius wrote:anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

    06/07
    Russian Su-35 fighter has shot down 2 Mi-24 helicopters and 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force in a single aerial battle near Nikolaevka and Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2619

    07/07
    Russian Su-35s fighters have shot down: 1 MiG-29 of Ukrainian air force near Nikolaev and 1 Su-25 near Adamovka in Donetsk people's republic.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2624

    08/07
    Russian Aerospace Forces' Su-35s have shot down MiG-29 and Su-25 aircraft of Ukrainian air force near Lazarevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2653

    09/07
    Su-35S and MiG-31BM aeroplanes of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down 2 Su-25 of Ukrainian Air Force near Bereznegovatoye and Chervonaya Dolina (Nikolayev region).
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2666

    10/07
    Russian Aerospace Forces' Su-35s fighters have shot down in the air 2 Su-25 assault aircraft of the Ukrainian air force near Barvenkovo, Kharkov Region, and Troitskoye, Donetsk People's Republic, as well as 1 MiG-29 near Krasnopolie, Donetsk People's Republic.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2677

    Still s400 holds the world record

    Look at the precision of this strikes through the window of hohol

    https://t.me/istorijaoruzijaZ/14960

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:58 am

    Does anyone know what regions the Russian troops are from? Is there military service in Russia? are they volunteers?
    How is the work of Wagner's mercenaries?
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:10 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Does anyone know what regions the Russian troops are from? Is there military service in Russia? are they volunteers?
    How is the work of Wagner's mercenaries?

    I'm not sure what your second question means but they are from all over Russia. Mix between conscripts, contract and volunteers. No mobilization happened. Wagner may be mercenaries but they are more likely counted as volunteers. Their job seems to be more like a mix of recon and capturing smaller areas
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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:04 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

    06/07
    Russian Su-35 fighter has shot down 2 Mi-24 helicopters and 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force in a single aerial battle near Nikolaevka and Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2619

    Yes, but I noticed this one in particular, it is the only one where the Su-35 is referred to in the singular with multiple targets. This implies that the one pilot downed all three.

    Higly likely to happen. Ukrainians fly their su-25 in pairs. One su-35 can down both in one encounter from 80km away.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:05 pm

    Just found this from a MoA poster.

    I'm listening to Zelensky's repeated claims of a big offensive in August and I think that he will not speak with Russia until after August.

    Two things that strike me.

    The first is that Russia has now published extensive reports and evidence about the bioweapon labs (on the Saker). It seems to me there is a link between the serious attacks the Saker is under at the moment and the publication of this evidence on their site.

    Alongside this, I note that at the G7 meeting agreement was reached to send a very large number of Chemical Warfare Suits to the Ukraine. The second this is I think all this inter-linked somehow.

    Why August? NATO/Collective West and Ukraine have already tried numerous false flags but have been thwarted at every turn. They have also told very serious shopping big lies. I fully trust Russia Intelligence services. I'm thinking that, as a last dying gasp so to speak, the collective West and NATO will, as in Syria, stage a false flag Chemical Weapon Attack (despite Russia not having any Chemical Weapons as certified by the OPCW) so that NATO and the collective West can then enter the 'War' (SMO).

    So, I hope Russia have this on their Radar and are collecting appropriate information. I have just read on Sputnik News that the US are talking up fears of a Chemical Attack in the Ukraine.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:06 pm

    Isos wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:anyone else noticed that the Su-35 got more than 10 air kills in the last 5 days?

    06/07
    Russian Su-35 fighter has shot down 2 Mi-24 helicopters and 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force in a single aerial battle near Nikolaevka and Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region.
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2619

    Yes, but I noticed this one in particular, it is the only one where the Su-35 is referred to in the singular with multiple targets. This implies that the one pilot downed all three.

    Higly likely to happen. Ukrainians fly their su-25 in pairs. One su-35 can down both in one encounter from 80km away.

    You might mean the Mi-24 pair, not the Su-25 Very Happy

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    Post  limb Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:28 pm

    Mir wrote:Special Ops in Ukraine for Dummies and Trolls like Vann, Limb and other Mindless idiots from The Empire of Lies >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 16 War-fo10

    How many months to take Odessa. Wh were 6 russian tanks immobilized by a minefield?

    https://twitter.com/TriTro29/status/1545790472089640965?t=O8-tAJwbMaTqBNp50Gvuqg&s=19

    Btw zoka on twitter is saying that the svyatogorsk monastery is still held by Ukraine

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    Post  Broski Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:16 pm

    limb wrote:How many months to take Odessa.
    Why? Are you in a hurry? I could only hope that Russia takes its sweet f*cking time dismantling the neonazi shithole so it won't pose a problem to ethnic Russians in Country 404 ever again. Also, lets see how the EU deals with gas shortages and $200 oil this Winter.

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

    You might mean the Mi-24 pair, not the Su-25 Very Happy

    In that case yes but I was talking for general situation. You can see in the other reports it's always 2 aircraft or 2 choppers. They fly them in pairs so the su-35 patroling around will see both everytime and down them easily.

    R-77-1 gives no chance to survive but frankly mig-29, su-25 and mi-24 are easy targets for this missiles. Too bad US didn't send modern f-16 or f-15 to test them against such aircraft.

    I also suspect they tested the Su-57 with r-77M. Against some of those targets.
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:33 pm

    Mir wrote:Special Ops in Ukraine for Dummies and Trolls like Vann, Limb and other Mindless idiots from The Empire of Lies >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 16 War-fo10

    Dude, I was looking at the map. Russia is said to be on pause, affirming what it has conquered. It seems to me that we are going to see an all-out offensive from several fronts (with kyiv included) when we least expect it.

    The calm always precedes the storm.


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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:40 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    Mir wrote:Special Ops in Ukraine for Dummies and Trolls like Vann, Limb and other Mindless idiots from The Empire of Lies >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 16 War-fo10

    Dude, I was looking at the map. Russia is said to be on pause, affirming what it has conquered. It seems to me that we are going to see an all-out offensive from several fronts (with kyiv included) when we least expect it.

    Even NASA registers contacts ongoing all across the board.
    Russia is not in an pause.
    all hotspots are fires/heavy detonations.

    Snake island seems to get some attention too.
    If the map is accurate, seems RF is pressing for Odessa judging by the fire intensity going on there.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:24 pm

    limb wrote:
    Mir wrote:Special Ops in Ukraine for Dummies and Trolls like Vann, Limb and other Mindless idiots from The Empire of Lies >>

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 16 War-fo10

    How many months to take Odessa. ...

    There is absolutely no rush to take Odessa

    This war turned out to be very profitable venture for Russia and they will be dragging it out as much as possible (my gripes about insufficient 404 KIA notwithstanding)

    Also it's middle of the summer now. Why bleed for something in summer when you can just stroll through it in winter?

    Plus let's not forget that EU heating season is in the winter not summer (and that there's no foliage in winter)


    But my best guess would be to just draw a straight line on that map between Kharkov ad Nikolaev, once front-line is there Odessa will fall by itself


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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:33 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20 - Page 16 Photo_19
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    Nice to see Russia going full Reagan USA, good branding has been sorely lacking until now   Cool

    And just in time for new Top Gun film  thumbsup

    Also good to see some representation for V group, Z group have bee hogging all the glory so far


    Speaking of branding I started seeing kids here in Serbia wearing T-shirts with Z logo (that's on top of insane stream of Russian films on TV, Outpost was just on tonight)


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:35 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Just found this from a MoA poster.

    I'm listening to Zelensky's repeated claims of a big offensive in August and I think that he will not speak with Russia until after August.

    []

    Why August? NATO/Collective West and Ukraine have already tried numerous false flags but have been thwarted at every turn. They have also told very serious shopping big lies. I fully trust Russia Intelligence services. I'm thinking that, as a last dying gasp so to speak, the collective West and NATO will, as in Syria, stage a false flag Chemical Weapon Attack (despite Russia not having any Chemical Weapons as certified by the OPCW) so that NATO and the collective West can then enter the 'War' (SMO).

    So, I hope Russia have this on their Radar and are collecting appropriate information. I have just read on Sputnik News that the US are talking up fears of a Chemical Attack in the Ukraine.

    US to start nuclear war ? unlikely sending, Lithuania or Poland to send troops on the ground could trigger Russia to use tactical nukes against them and perhaps their countries .. Instructors, mercenaries, weapons'? it has been happening since the beginning of the war. And no information will convince "independent" media fi they are divergent form official "party line"

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:47 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Just found this from a MoA poster.

    I'm listening to Zelensky's repeated claims of a big offensive in August and I think that he will not speak with Russia until after August.

    []

    Why August? NATO/Collective West and Ukraine have already tried numerous false flags but have been thwarted at every turn. They have also told very serious shopping big lies. I fully trust Russia Intelligence services. I'm thinking that, as a last dying gasp so to speak, the collective West and NATO will, as in Syria, stage a false flag Chemical Weapon Attack (despite Russia not having any Chemical Weapons as certified by the OPCW) so that NATO and the collective West can then enter the 'War' (SMO).

    So, I hope Russia have this on their Radar and are collecting appropriate information. I have just read on Sputnik News that the US are talking up fears of a Chemical Attack in the Ukraine.

    US to start nuclear war  ? unlikely sending, Lithuania or Poland to send  troops on the ground could trigger  Russia to  use tactical nukes against them and perhaps their countries .. Instructors, mercenaries, weapons'? it has been happening since the beginning of the war. And no information will convince "independent" media fi they are divergent form official "party line"

    They may think that they will have some kind advantage in august as they think they can accumulate enough weapons and men to launch a large offensive.  Probably lots of mercenaries.  But that wont amount to much.  As soon as there is any kind of large formations or lost of small formations being formed, they will get hit by guided munitions.  Russia watches rather closely to such formations and constantly strike at buildings where they are being held.

    Edit:

    I think they really are trying to push a heavy PR campaign with these claims. I am assuming they are attempting to get more weapons for their "massive 1 million man force for a counter attack"

    https://t.me/asbmil/2799

    “Ukraine is massing a million-strong fighting force equipped with western weapons to recover its southern territory from Russia, the nation’s defence minister has revealed to The Times.”


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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:49 pm

    [In reply to Donbass Devushka]
    Fighters and an AWACS A-50 aircraft, which serves for precise aiming of fire, took off from Belarus. An air raid alarm is roaring in Western Ukraine.

    This is reported by the Kiev publications.

    🧂

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/14018

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    Post  dionis Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:57 pm

    Is there a website keeping track of Ukrainian side equipment losses?
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:06 pm

    Reckoning day coming for the nazi pigs:

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