Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24

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Fighterbomber on recent strike to energy infrastructure.

At the moment I am skeptical about the decision to beat the energy of crests. Why? Well, because the feeling does not leave me that many of our goals are chosen not from a military point of view, but from the point of view of “public opinion”. It's like being in the zone. They do not believe the one who tells the truth, but the one who proves his case more convincingly, louder and more emotionally. This is what I explain the sluggish attempts at different times with varying degrees of failure to attack bridges with high-precision weapons, then railway substations, and now it has arrived at the thermal power plant. I won’t be surprised if tomorrow, under the yoke of beauty bloggers, they senselessly and mercilessly spend the last X-101 on some spherical decision-making center in a vacuum in the form of the General Staff, or the Rada in Kuev. There are no friends there, it’s our SVO, and the crests have a war for themselves and they fight according to the combat regulations, and not according to the slides “making decisions” from places that can only be hit with the use of nuclear weapons, and even that is not a fact. And not all of them are located on the territory of Ukraine. But of course you can collect likes and views on this. Once. Khokhols restored the electricity supply in a couple of hours. I mean, it's bullshit, not a hit. If it was another “hard-to-reach” signal that we can do anything else with you, then this is one thing, if it was a direct blow-blow, then I was not impressed. I really hope that both above and below have finally stopped fucking each other with all their might and we already have some kind of cunning plan that takes into account all the nuances of the cast-iron ass of reality. wrote:

Attacks on energy infrastructure should start much earlier. It should also be more intense. We will see whether it was a propaganda show or whether Russia will intensify its attack on the energy infrastructure. NATO in 99 so did Serbia, which caused Serbia's surrender and they were unable to inflict any losses on the Serbian military.

Russia controls the pain dial. Last night it went up a little bit.

flamming_python wrote:There was no **** up in Kharkov mac

I don't know what Russia is up to, but clearly its actions are planned and intentional

From a military point of view it was a clear success for the russian side. The Nazis were chasing phantoms and lost a few thousand men. The fixation for "territorial gains" are something from the WWII era. Today it´s meaningless. In a few month there will be only old men and women left, armed with some assault rifles and clubs to "defend" the Kiev regime. Then Russia can take what it wants and get rid off the rest.

Now formally Declare war, send the correct amount of troops and attack all infrastructure Ukraine uses for the war regardless of civilian or military

No need to formally declare war... just change target types...

It's said Kharkov is being sent back to the stone age

So destruction of technology and infrastructure, but improvements in education and hygiene...

Kharkiv was the first to report a power outage after a powerful outbreak. Some sources report that the thermal power plant in Zmiev was hit, as well as the Kharkiv thermal power plant-5, which is the largest thermal power plant in Ukraine.

Winter is coming...

There is a good change that Russian army is now acting without Kremlin's approval and fight this like a real war.

But once Putin intervenes the situation will go back to the same old usual (and the Russian officers responsible for this disappear).

It is amusing that so many are so sure of what Putin is or isn't doing...

The Kiev regime, in order to destabilize the situation in the territory liberated by the Russian Armed Forces and cause suffering to the civilian population, continues deliberate shelling of energy infrastructure: generation facilities, transformer substations and power lines.

Daily strikes on power supply facilities of civilian infrastructure are carried out by the Kyiv regime intentionally and purposefully.

So the Russians accuse the orcs of doing this to rebel regions and so the Russians presumably are responding by doing it to them?

Fair enough... so it is retaliation rather than escalation.

Why does he hate ukrainians so much?

Bio weapons, Nazis, nuclear weapons, shelling their own for almost a decade claiming they wanted peace... they earned every ones hate.

Most people here are extremely delusional.

Western propaganda... use your own faults and evil natures and blame everyone else as being personifications of those things...

Russia does not have man power to rule Ukraine, that story is over couple of years ago.

Nazis from west Ukraine had enough manpower to "occupy" the rest of the country and they essentially did as they were told or fled the country... no reason why a small number of sane people can do the same and liberate them from the nazi nutters and bring real development and growth... something the nazis promised but could never deliver with western loans and empty promises.

With the su-25, I think the overall number should be 12 or so jets lost which is too much.

More like five times that... but all Orc planes...

Burn, baby, burn.

Brave men spraying water into a burning power station....

Many years before I thought that Medvedev is a pro western traitor and a pussy. But now he has my full respect

I think he was, but they treated him like they treat Putin and he saw their true colours...

And they are not Vietnamese or Afghans to out-breed the enemy.

They both have spine and were resisting colonial occupation... Russia does not want to take the Ukraine, they want the US and HATO and Europe out of the Ukraine.

How many Afghan politicians were Soviet in the 1980s... how many Vietnamese politicians were American or French?

Do you know how many Americans there are in Kievs government?

I will agree you about Russia not having clear military goals.

The goals are clear but the means of achieving those goals have to change when they stop being productive and effective.

What is "turn that fuking light off!!!" in Ukrainain? It will soon become the most spoken phrase in Caveman Land.

A nice change to "get out of here Stalker....".

I am sure the making the citizens of Ukraine suffer, is not part of Putin's game plan.
It's more like something the west would do.

It is going to mean Zelensky and Kiev are going to have to spend more resources on his domestic population instead of just on their military forces.

Not a nice thing to do, but war has never been nice.

They knew. But why do they have to make is so difficult for themselves and especially their supporters propaganda wise? There has to be a better way than this. The world is watching the maps whether they like it or not. Whether it is a territorial line or not. Propaganda wise they should have one job. Avoid a shitstorm like this.

The Orcs won the propaganda war over the last few days, but what actually does that mean for them on the actual battlefield?

What is their supply situation... what sort of reserves do they have to back them up in the case they come under any type of attack... are there prepared positions to fall back to or will they be crossing great distances of open territory exposed to enemy air power and artillery.

As I said, part of the problem with Russian propaganda is the propagandists themselves.

The west controls social media so Russia is never going to win there... any win will be cancelled or blocked and anyone who reports their win will be banned.

Without any self-criticism, I can freely say that "Ukrainians" are rarely stupid people.

Not criticising.... just checking for clarity... did you mean to use the word rarely which means "does not happen very often", or did you mean really, which means "very much so"?

ie did you mean "Without any self-criticism, I can freely say that "Ukrainians" are not very often stupid people", or did you mean "Without any self-criticism, I can freely say that "Ukrainians" are very much stupid people."?

The Germans ended up surrounded in Stalingrad, thrown back hundreds of km from Moscow,

The battle of Stalingrad was a trap from the outset... troops were building up on the other side of the river but were drip fed into the city at a rate specially regulated to keep the Germans slowly advancing to keep their interest and keep them focused on clearing out the city rather than the forces massing on the other side of the river ready to encircle them completely.

Stop being muppets and getting hysterical over the 24hr news cycle. War isn't a game

If you can't take a step back or an enemy advance even if temporary, then war is not a game you should play.

Looks like one Kalibr malfunctioned.

You mean that first one that seemed to climb... I would say it was probably after a different target and was heading away from the camera...

Malfunctioning VLS missiles normally drop into the water as their solid rocket boosters fail or the solid rocket booster explodes spectacularly.

These missiles are jet powered so even just heading off in the wrong direction because of a faulty control surface is not a big deal...

Also, the yanks only have to keep sending said systems and munitions, keeps their mic ticking over, thus jobs. No blood being split save for a few mercs that nobody other than their families care about so no voter problems either….just keep spending from afar like they did during the Russia/Afghanistan war, only back then it was supplied stingers that were causing headaches.
It would be good if they can figure out where these supplies are coming in from and target then, quite a difficult task of course.

Well a good response to America arming Ukraine would be for Russia to start to arm Iran and North Korea and Cuba... wonder if they want some Su-35s?

I have compared fighting Nazis in Ukraine , a war of annihilation against them ( a SMO in Ukraine ) , as " a weeding operation by a Gardner . " This analogy is valid , as every good Gardner knows that to eradicate weeds , it is not enough to simply snip at the leaves and leave the roots alone ! We are simply allowing further weed growth and further work for ourselves , by not putting enough effort in and uprooting the problem .

Following that analogy though in this case the gardner is fighting weeds on a public park bordering his property... he might be able to sneak out at night and snip some branches and pull out some weeds, but cannot make the dramatic changes that are needed to make the park tidy. Taking ownership of the park would allow decisions regarding pathways and grassed areas and areas with trees and bushes to be decided... the townspeople might not like what it looks like to start with but with a bit of work and they suddenly get cut grass and tidy safe pathways with good lighting and toilets and water fountains for drinking and bench seats and beautiful flowers and bushes and magnificent trees and they will think it is worth it.

He could be right that it was a PR move, but I find it quite amusing how sure these osint "experts" are in their theories knowing jack shit. Also was he one of the millions panicking the last couple days?

Would be hilarious if he was because in effect he would be panicked by their PR operation of a frontal mass assault on thin Russian lines in the middle of nowhere, but now is upset because they appear to reply with a PR move of their own...

Restoring power quickly might mean they are on generators till the fuel runs out... burning up their supplies of fuel in generators is better than not and allowing that excess fuel to go to tank and IFV engines instead.

Symbolic attacks against civilians infrastructure , such as TV tower being downed

Taking down enemy TV stations and electricity grids is not a symbolic attack, they are legitimate targets that effect Kievs ability to control and communicate with their people.

Rafale iis not perfect but has a much lower RCS, much better jammers and they proved its efficiency.

Radar cross section does not mean anything to a BUK in optical guidance mode...

It is also well known that top dog western fighters struggled against the old Indian Su-30 which is way inferior to the Su-30MKI. The Su-30SM is a further improvement on the MKI.

They also found the upgraded MiG-21s they had to be difficult in a dog fight because they were physically small and easy to lose sight of...

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Something exploded well yesterday in Kharkiv.

Scorpius wrote:https://t.me/OpenUkraine/26047
Something exploded well yesterday in Kharkiv.

Tactical nuke.

ALAMO wrote:
It was Sharyi who compromised himself in full last week, making himself an absolute fool in front of his audience. But people won't remember that in a week, as most of the population has the ability to focus smaller than a golden fish.

What did Sharyi say?

Arkanghelsk wrote:Does anyone watch Rossiya-1?

Skabeeva and Sladkov have been changing tune

It seems it's not a special military operation anymore, the trend is to speak about a "war"

It seems mobilization is a possibility , which is fine

But the political leadership, if they allow for drafting and mobilization of the reserve cannot treat this shit as a "childrens exercise" in the words of Medvedev

But the most merciless action must be taken ahead of advancing columns of the mobilized army

Guys cannot die to political charades and games

This must be taken seriously

Mobilization has nothing good. This is in the best traditions of liberoid tales - the very thing to "throw corpses". Firstly, it is the withdrawal of labor from the economy. Secondly, you can read Alexander Khodakovsky, one of the commanders in the LDPR - he talks about the lack of combat equipment, heavy weapons, intelligence means - but not about the lack of manpower:

Many military officers are directly related to the military department, and largely depend on it. Now there is such a situation that some solutions are required, and one of them is mobilization. But to come to the president with this proposal directly is to sign in impotence, and therefore the message is dispersed through social networks so that "where necessary" they will notice and make a decision themselves. The tactics are clear.

I want to reproach myself for inconsistency: on the one hand, I am saddened by the results of this stage of the war (I knew that we would stop - I did not even dream that we would retreat), on the other hand, I am against general mobilization. How then to reverse the course of events?

Let's do it again. The reason for what is happening in the first place is not a shortage of people, but in their careless use - that is, in the organization of the process. If this approach is maintained, the shortage will be constant, no matter how many people are mobilized, and Russia will be overwhelmed by a wave of funerals in the absence of the desired result, which will lead to a serious crisis. The shortage is precisely formed by a simplified approach, and to continue cultivating it is simply grinding our resource in the meat grinder of war. I'm sorry that it seems like thinking people write thoughtless words.

The mobilization of the economy, society, the formation of a people's militia of volunteers, partial mobilization of specialists in Vusov specialties - YES! Combat units need to be filled with those who have served in them before and have qualifications... I am ready to return to my 331st Parachute Regiment - I was a good company foreman during the conscription... But just declare a general mobilization by the hands of the military - something will begin that you never dreamed of. It will be a powerful blow to the country, which it will not withstand.

Vladlen Tatarsky, a smart guy, writes: without bulletproof vests and helmets, with an AK-47 - I don't care - but you give mobilization. What's next? Who will you give them to? I have fewer people than I would like - but my main difficulty is not in this, but in the fact that I can't find the enemy's positions for hours from which he hits us - yesterday two light three hundredths. I can't, because there are no means of artillery reconnaissance. I can't, because their EW won't let me fly. And if I suddenly can, then I don't have enough range to cover them, or I don't have enough BC... I cannot calculate and screw them up at the stage of formation of battle formations before deploying to the attack, when they are crowded and represent a good target - all for the same reasons. How will additional infantry help me here? So the approach should be comprehensive, and this is a complex process and requires a change in the type of thinking.

And also remember that the main scourge of the military department, about which I have written more than once, is an attempt to create complete closeness, that is, uncontrolled: everything that happens at a mile remains at a mile, and we will give up only what will not disturb anyone's sleep. Therefore, military officers are not allowed into positions, and if they are allowed, then a person with a camera walks behind them and takes pictures so that the military commander does not say anything superfluous... And not because the enemy will see it - the enemy knows about us better than ours - but because the first leader will see it.

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