Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26

Backman wrote:Alex M. from the Duran said on his program that there is another peace proposal floating around in Saudi. Something about Russia talking the 4 regions but Ukraine keeping Odessa. And the EU is warming up to deals like this.

It seems to me to be highly unlikely but you never know. It's a useless deal to me. Russia needs a 300 kilometer buffer. Period.

All we get then is the same shit all over again in 2 or 3 years time. Instead of Donbass, its Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro etc being terrorised. By F-35s and the like.

Bandera-stan is infested with evil. It needs to be cleansed. Russia needs to be Russia again. Not "a rump Russian Federation and many millions of its citizens terrorised in NATO controlled states".

Just lurking around.

The thing with going 'all-in' inside Ukraine territory is that you need to get the people on your side in order to achieve sustainable support. In some way you need to be really sensible here, and especially if the longer-term goal is to completely neutralize Western influence thereby also reducing risk of continuous conflict between West and (formerly) East. You want to avoid a South vs North Korea type of situation.

In the eastern part Russia will be invited as the liberator. In the western part Russia - due to years of mind games - you really need to win back the hearts of the people. That takes time and needs to follow a somewhat natural process. If you deny supplies and support, you will be seen as a direct aggressor. If you let the situation develop while Western countries more and more have to focus on their own problems and support dries up the population, people will get fed up with Kiev, and things are becoming more fluid; you will get regime change. By just chasing short term results, you won't achieve this.

More a question; I was just wondering if Russia has a predator/reaper like equivalent, it feels like this capability should be top priority? If you're air force is exposed from air defenses, I can imagine just picking them out from high altitudes one by one in order to, then, establish air superiority to work with your ground troops is extremely important. Additionally, you could have easily taken out material like expensive HIMARS systems with relatively low-cost missiles.

In addition, I have seen some IR pods in the past that can confuse or block incoming missiles? Are these not used anymore on helicopters or jets e.g. too expensive or is the reliability somewhat flaky? I assume the EW suites can handle the non-IR-tracking missiles and the IR missiles need to be actively confused.

Some guy in Siberia apparently shot a recruitment officer in the face.

With this crudely "obrezed" gun (suggesting that the guy was criminal or some such).

Anyone recognize the action? Doesn't look like a Mosin or Berdan to me. And (what remains of) the stock doesn't look original either, I mean, the band is a hose clamp, and the trigger guard looks DIY too.

LMFS wrote: “withdraw all your troops from our territory or we will declare war on Ukraine” according to Girkin, this is what’s gonna happen.

This makes perfect sense. Those territories will became the Russian Federation. Fully fledged. No special status, it will be Russia proper from that point on. So Ukrainian troops present in villages and cities of the LPR, DPR, Zaporozhie and Kherson — will be occupying Russian mainland — from Russia’s point of view.

This tactic is genius for the Russians for other reasons, Russian professional army will highly likely move to those new Russian territories the same night that Putin makes them part of the Russian Federation, essentially creating such a large military build up there that Ukraine has little to no chance to ever step a foot on those lands again.

It also moves the Russian borders right to the frontlines of Nikolaev; meaning Russian manpower will be readily available and large numbers of Russian soldiers will likely be rotated to gain combat experience (rotations were happening the whole time, but nowhere near this level) — all this means that Odessa will become a much easier target. (Not easy, but easier)

They already at war with Ukriane... only fools repeat the Special Militaty Operation dumb name.

They have sent thousands of vehicles and are using hundred of cruise missiles all over Ukraine and now will send 300k troops more which is more than the biggest european army.

That's already a war. Threatening of a war in the middle of the war is dumb.

famschopman wrote:


More a question; I was just wondering if Russia has a predator/reaper like equivalent, it feels like this capability should be top priority?

S-70 Okhotnik?

https://youtu.be/4iUp_tgsHeY

Carries huge payload, dropped a 500kg bomb in a test, apparently stealthy, flies at high speeds but still in development stage though

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* Russian Armed Forces killed 25 servicemen of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The RF Armed Forces attacked the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during a command meeting, killing 25 servicemen and injuring more than 40 - RF Defense Ministry.
MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. The Russian armed forces attacked the forward command post of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Donetsk People's Republic during a command meeting, killing 25 servicemen and injuring more than 40.
"Up to 25 Ukrainian servicemen were killed and more than 40 were injured by a missile attack on the forward command post of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the village of Chasov Yar in the Donetsk People's Republic during a meeting of the brigade's command. Eight units of special military equipment were disabled." , - Konashenkov.




Russian Aerospace Forces eliminated up to 100 militants of the Foreign Legion and national formations in the DPR

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the armed forces carried out strikes in the area of ​​the settlement of Svyatogorsk in the Donetsk People's Republic
MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. The Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed up to 100 militants with a strike on the points of deployment of the Foreign Legion and units of national formations in the DPR.
This was announced on Monday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"High-precision strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces on the points of temporary deployment of the Foreign Legion and units of nationalist formations in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Svyatogorsk in the Donetsk People's Republic eliminated up to 100 militants," Konashenkov said.



The RF Armed Forces destroyed up to 50 soldiers and more than 2 thousand shells of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Nikolaev

MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. The armed forces of the Russian Federation delivered a strike with high-precision weapons at the point of temporary deployment of the 406th artillery brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Nikolaev region, destroying up to 50 militants and more than 2 thousand artillery shells. This was stated on Monday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"A high-precision strike on the point of temporary deployment of the 406th artillery brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the town of Ochakov, Nikolaev region, killed up to 50 militants, 10 pieces of military equipment and more than 2,000 artillery shells," he said.





The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported more than 120 killed and wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the KharkОv region

The department also spoke about the destruction of 15 units of military equipment
MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) lost more than 120 soldiers killed and wounded as a result of a fire strike by the RF Armed Forces in the KharkОv region. This was announced to journalists on Monday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"As a result of a massive fire strike on the deployment points of the 14th mechanized and 95th air assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Senkovo ​​and Chervoniy Oskol, KharkОv region, the enemy's losses amounted to more than 120 servicemen killed and wounded, 15 pieces of military equipment," he said. Konashenkov.



Aviation, missilemen and artillerymen of the Russian Federation destroyed five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

According to the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, three depots of ammunition and rocket and artillery weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed in the areas of the cities of Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kramatorsk
MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. During a special operation in Ukraine, Russian aviation, missile troops and artillery destroyed five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a day. This was announced on Monday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"The strikes of operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery hit five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Kupyansk, KharkОv region, Shchurovo, Kirovo, Donetsk People's Republic, Kamyshevakh, Zaporozhye region, and Vysokopolye, Kherson region, as well as 56 artillery units, manpower and military equipment in 163 districts," he said.
According to him, three depots of ammunition and rocket and artillery weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed in the areas of the cities of Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kramatorsk of the Donetsk People's Republic.



Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Ukrainian Su-24 in the DPR

The plane was shot down in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Selidovo in the Donetsk People's Republic, said the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov
MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Su-24 bomber of the Ukrainian Air Force near the village of Selidovo in the Donetsk People's Republic. This was announced on Monday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Su-24 of the Ukrainian Air Force near the village of Selydovo in the Donetsk People's Republic," Konashenkov said.



The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported the destruction of 13 UAVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

According to the agency, 19 HIMARS and Olkha MLRS shells were also eliminated.

MOSCOW, 26 September. /TASS/. Russian air defense systems shot down 13 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), and also destroyed 19 HIMARS and Olkha multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS).
This was announced on Monday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"Russian air defense systems shot down 13 unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of Bobrovy Kut, Zeleny Gai, Ukrainka, Sadok, Novaya Kakhovka, Maksim Gorkogo of the Kherson region, Molochansk of the Zaporozhye region, Selydovo and Kirillovka of the Donetsk People's Republic during the day. 19 shells were destroyed in the air HIMARS and Olkha multiple launch rocket systems in the area of ​​the Antonovsky bridge in the Kherson region, as well as the settlements of Svatovo in the Lugansk People's Republic and Novaya Kakhovka in the Kherson region," the lieutenant general said.



The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported the destruction of more than 300 Ukrainian aircraft during the SMO
According to the agency, 155 helicopters, 2,087 unmanned aerial vehicles, 377 anti-aircraft missile systems, 5,114 tanks and other armored combat vehicles were also destroyed.

Serberus wrote:

famschopman wrote:


More a question; I was just wondering if Russia has a predator/reaper like equivalent, it feels like this capability should be top priority?

S-70 Okhotnik?

https://youtu.be/4iUp_tgsHeY

Carries huge payload, dropped a 500kg bomb in a test, apparently stealthy, flies at high speeds but still in development stage though

Also the Altius but also just making the first models not in service yet.

I think both serve a different purpose. The Altius being a long endurance drone for reconnaissance and the S-70 for quickly striking targets; mostly in the role as a bomber. The reliance on a jet engine severaly impacts its ability to stay in the air for longer periods, watch movements and pick out targets as they come. Interestingly the s-70 has a higher service ceiling of 18km (compared to 12km for the Altius), so not outside of air defense range but maybe its speed allows it to outrun incoming projectiles.

I can imagine these projects will get a significant boost in research and production considering the latest developments.

More than 30 thousand construction workers are involved in the restoration of the DPR and LPR

More than 30 thousand construction workers are working on the restoration of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR). This was announced on September 26 by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin.

"Currently, 32,000 people work in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. I believe that by the end of the year the construction group will be 50-60 thousand, " he told reporters.

Earlier in the day, Khusnullin said that the development plan for the liberated city of Mariupol had been approved. The task is to put the city in order in three years. The Deputy Prime Minister noted that the recovery process is not moving quickly, but it will definitely gain momentum.

Earlier, on September 13, Izvestia correspondent Rodion Severyanov said that a new kindergarten was opened in Mariupol, which was almost completely destroyed by the Ukrainian army as a result of military operations.

On September 9, it was reported that the first residents of Mariupol were given keys to apartments in new buildings. The head of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin took part in the solemn event. He noted that the main works were carried out by military builders in the shortest possible time. In 2022-2025, the Ministry of Construction reported that over 600 thousand square meters of apartment buildings are going to be built in Mariupol.

On February 24, Russia launched a special operation to protect the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR). It was preceded by the aggravation of the situation in the region, the appeal of the leadership of the republics of Donbass to the Russian Federation with a request for help and the subsequent recognition by Russia of the independence of the DPR and LPR.

Kiev has been conducting a military operation against the residents of Donbass, who refused to recognize the results of the coup in Ukraine, since 2014.

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.cdd226cd-63318248-cc094a68-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1401170/2022-09-26/k-vosstanovleniiu-dnr-i-lnr-privlecheny-svyshe-30-tys-stroitelei?main_click

The situation in the Liman direction
as of 13.00 September 26, 2022

The threat of the front line to the west of Liman remains. The Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to bypass the bridgehead of the allied forces near Drobyshevo from the north and expand the breakthrough near Redkodub.

Attempts to storm the Liman from Ozerny and Shchurovo were repelled by allied forces.

Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine established control over the villages of Karpovka, Novoe and expanded the bridgehead north of Drobyshevo. Drobyshevo is still under the control of Russian forces.

The Ukrainian command is building up a grouping to expand the bridgehead and access to the Svatovo-Borovoe highway. To the north of the village of Redkodub there are fierce battles.

South of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are trying to storm the foothold of the allied forces in Drobyshevo - Shandrigolovo.

From the side of Karpovka, the enemy attempted to break through the defense of the Russian troops in the direction of Shandrigolovo with two strike groups.

Having lost four tanks, five infantry fighting vehicles and a large number of manpower under the blows of MLRS, artillery and Russian armored vehicles on the outskirts of the village, the remnants of the shock groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated in the direction of Karpovka.

To the east of Redkodub, Ukrainian units are trying to move towards Zelenaya Dolina in order to encircle the Liman group through Stavki and Kolodezi.

An artillery reconnaissance station of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been deployed in Prishib: the enemy is conducting a counter-battery fight using HIMARS missiles and Excalibur corrected artillery ammunition.

The command of the Russian Armed Forces is throwing reserves into battle in order to tie down parts of the Ukrainian troops and slow down their advance, gaining time to create a solid line of defense and stabilize the situation at the front.

Now the entire burden of defense lies with the units and formations of the 20th Combined Arms Army and individual subunits of other formations.

The situation in the Kharkiv direction
as of 14.00 September 26, 2022

The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed their attack on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in the eastern part of the Kharkiv region to reach the borders of the Luhansk People's Republic.

Servicemen of the 3rd battalion of the 14th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the afternoon of September 25 began to advance from the districts of Gorobyevka and Dvurechnoye in the direction of Tavolzhanka.

Assault groups of the compound are advancing on Tavolzhanka from the northwest. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to gain a foothold in the area of ​​the railway tracks. At the moment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are waiting for the arrival of reserves to continue the attack on Russian positions.

At the same time, Ukrainian formations are preparing for the assault on Liman 1st. The servicemen were stationed on the western outskirts of the settlement. As part of the preparations for the settlement, as well as Kulagovka and Tavolzhanka, artillery fire is underway.

Fire teams of MANPADS crews provide infantry cover from Russian aviation in Dvurechnaya and Novomlynsk. The group's supply depot was organized in Dvurechnaya.

You can find out about the situation on the Limansky sector of the front here.

Hole wrote:

Firebird wrote:

Backman wrote:Alex M. from the Duran said on his program that there is another peace proposal floating around in Saudi. Something about Russia talking the 4 regions but Ukraine keeping Odessa. And the EU is warming up to deals like this.

It seems to me to be highly unlikely but you never know. It's a useless deal to me. Russia needs a 300 kilometer buffer. Period.

All we get then is the same shit all over again in 2 or 3 years time. Instead of Donbass, its Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro etc being terrorised. By F-35s and the like.

Bandera-stan is infested with evil. It needs to be cleansed. Russia needs to be Russia again. Not "a rump Russian Federation and many millions of its citizens terrorised in NATO controlled states".

NATO wanted a common border with Russia (Finland ) soon they will get another one, but 1.000km to the west. NATO will not be close to Belgorod, but Russia close to Warsaw and Bukarest.

So basically what is going to happen, at least in eastern Europe, is a return to the pre Molotov-Ribbentrop borders. That actually works for me.